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Ellen White : What SHE-DEVIL BEGAN TO DO
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From: MSN NicknameTweety134  (Original Message)Sent: 6/22/2008 11:59 PM
It appears from this writing that if you presented the truth to the people following White, that was not believed by the White or the other members, then you were kicked out of the association. So people were kicked out when the truth was found, and SHE-DEVIL was found to be a liar, and hypocrite. Tweety
 
 PAGE 50: MESSENGERS WITHOUT A MESSAGE.--THIS EXPRESSION APPEARS IN AN ACCOUNT OF A VIEW GIVEN TO ELLEN WHITE ON JANUARY 26, 1850. AT THIS TIME THE SABBATHKEEPING ADVENTISTS HAD NO CHURCH ORGANIZATION. NEARLY ALL WERE FEARFUL THAT ANY TYPE OF ORGANIZATION WOULD BRING IN FORMALITY AMONG THE BELIEVERS. BUT AS TIME WENT ON, DISCORDANT ELEMENTS BEGAN TO MAKE THEIR WAY INTO THE RANKS. MESSAGES OF WARNING CAME FROM ELLEN WHITE, AND THE SABBATHKEEPING ADVENTISTS WERE LED STEP BY STEP TO ADOPT THE FORMS OF CHURCH ORGANIZATION. AS A RESULT THE COMPANIES OF BELIEVERS WERE KNIT TOGETHER MORE CLOSELY THAN BEFORE; A WAY WAS DEVISED TO GIVE RECOGNITION TO MINISTERS WHO GAVE EVIDENCE THAT THEY COULD PREACH THE MESSAGE AND SUPPORT IT WITH THEIR LIVES; AND PROVISION WAS MADE TO CAST OUT THOSE WHO, UNDER THE PRETEXT OF PRESENTING TRUTH, TAUGHT ERROR. SEE "HISTORICAL PROLOGUE." {EW 300.3}


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/24/2008 2:55 PM
This is exactly how all the false leaders work.....take the new move of God into organazation, so it can be ruled over by MAN.
Yep, that is it..  Adam ruling over the sheep of God, to their destruction.
 
Every time God brought up a group of people, who were honestly praying and seeking God to have God in their lives,  some devil-possessed, power-hungry leader stepped up and took it to organazation and thus KILLED IT.
 
 
God cannot rule and lead in this kind of environment because the MAN steps up and takes over.  It has to go HIS way, and not God's way.
 
In this kind of environment the 'members' are not given the freedom to tell the things God may have shown them, or even to question the teachings of that 'man' leading them or rather RULING OVER THEM.
 
and almost without exception, they CERTAINLY will not give the WOMEN any place in God.  It is certainly of SATAN.
 
So when a woman rises to the leadership place, such as ellen did,  it really took something.  how a church claims a woman cannnot pastor or preach, yet lets a woman tell them everything to believe is something very odd.
 
she really had them buffoled.  haha.