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You cannot prove one thing you say. I have proven everything I have said. That is why all you can do is claim I haven't. You have not bothered to try to disprove any of my words. All you have is what some carnal minded man tells you is written in the 'torah'. The same is true of you and the KJV, then. It is the VERSION of James I, not necessarily a true rendering of the Hebrew or Greek. You are placing your trust in man, not God. That is why your doctrine is so false. You did most certainly say that you cannot read it. and I know you cannot read it. Show us where I said I cannot read it, then. You have absolutely no way of knowing what that scrambled-up looking stuff says, if it says anything. It is called Hebrew, and your precious KJV translators used the same Hebrew to translate the Scriptures into English in the 17th century. You are showing yourself to be extremely ignorant of your own book. You have no way of knowing if it has any English letter or not. I am quite sure it does not have an A or B or C or D etc. That is why it has not J. It is not English, any more than Japanese or Chinese is English. But, they can be translated into English as well by people who understand them. Imagine people being so stupid and ignorant and blind as to allow some silly saying like this to cause them to deny their one and only hope of salvation = FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST. Faith in jesus christ will put you in hell. And you do deny him, so you are ANTI=CHRIST. = hell bound. I am not antichrist, as you suggest in your ignorance. I am anti-christianity and anti-jesus. There is a tremendous difference. yOU STILL AVOIDED answering why your 'jews' missed their 'messiah' if he had the name you claim they expected. coward you are. I avoided nothing. Look again. I answered every question you put to me in post 23. All you have said in this site is rambling words with no meaning, stricking at me. That is all you have. Even you know that is a lie. You do not bother me at all with your ignorant criticism of the TRUTH I TEACH. You have no truth. You asked you taught me. I have told it here many times, GOD TEACHES ME. Not the God of Israel, though. Your go is jesus. It is a gentile god that was made up by gentiles to control their people. If you say the KJV has error in it, that is calling it a lie. You are too stupid to even acknowledge this. Every English translation is full of errors. One must learn the original language in order to come to true understanding of the Word of God. Are you so smart that you can discern what is error and what is not? No. I allow the Ruach haQodesh to lead me in my endeavours. It does not take intelligence to learn God's Word. It takes willingness to hear the truth. Of course any sensible person knows you are not, and neither are those anti-christ folks whose words you do read and believe. What folks? You do not even know whose teachings I use. LOL Now this is the pure truth. You do not know the truth. course you anti-christ folks have no way of knowing any truth, since you reject the teacher, THE HOLY GHOST. Ruach haQodesh is the Counselor. He is enough for me. |
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Yeshuaahs, I found this somewhere. Please read it and tell me what it says. עָזִּ�?וְזִמְרָת יָהּ וַֽיְהִי־לִי לִֽישׁוּעָה זֶה אֵלִי וְאַנְוֵהוּ אֱלֹהֵי אָבִי וַאֲרֹמְמֶֽנְהוּ׃ |
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Here is where you said you cannot read it, post # 16: by saying you can read that stuff up there? No. |
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In my bible, that is not what Ex. 15: 2 says. nope. it is not correct translation. |
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| | | From: joie2 | Sent: 8/27/2008 12:29 AM |
I am yet to see anyone who gets into these jewish fables, of 'got to get the original Hebrew' to get truth, who do not discredit the KJV and the Name of Jesus, and of course the gift of tongues. These three things they hate with a passion, so satan fills their heart with the rank idea that original hebrew is somehow going to show the KJV up to be full of error and passify their hatred of God's truth. I am dealing with someone now, on Tweety's site, who also claims to study Hebrew, as if this is somehow a higher plane of spirituality. But she flat denies the gift of tongues as taught in the Word of God. she flat calls Paul a lie, when he said, this is not spoken to any man, but to God only, and is understood by none, but God only. I have quoted this verse to her five times, and each time, she denies it, claiming that if the speaker and the others around, do not understand what is spoken that it is BABBLYING. THAT IS WHAT BELIEVING IN 'ORIGINAL' HEBREW DOES TO PEOPLE. I say it has to be of satan. she is the one who is babblying, for her words make no spiritual connection with the /Word of God. After I copied Yeshuah's own 'fake hebrew' words above, and asked him to tell me what it means, he left without another word. God showed me to do that. I copied his own 'hebrew' and told him I found it somewhere. He had no idea what it was or what it said. proving that he lied when he said he could read it. she is lying also. none of them know it, and if they do, it must be of the devil, to deny God's word. He left because I proved him to be a liar and his 'hebrew' to be nothing to him. He did not even recognize that it was his own fake words. lol God showed me what to to. He will continue to teach me also. He will not let his words fall to the ground. |
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| | | From: Dovey | Sent: 8/28/2008 1:03 AM |
YESHUWAHs has the correct translation from the Hebrew. Exodus 15:2. You have to take into consideration sentence structure and word translation which for the most part will cause a statement to lose it's impact. To sit there and argue about it is pretty ignorant. How on earth can anyone state that the KJV has no errors??? It does! That is the reason why we must compare not only versions but if all possible translations. It's silly to defend only ONE version of scripture. What makes the KJV holier than any other bible??? Nothing really because who said it was holy? God is the only holy one. Inspite of all the versions and translations of the scriptures, God's true message has not been eradicated. God promises wisdom and understanding upon a humble and contrite heart. God does not deal with arrogance or boastfulness. When we read God's Word, we should have the utmost respect and reverance. Anyone can quote scripture like Yeshuwahs has stated. In fact Satan quoted scripture many times. Bashing people thinking we know all there is to know is already part of the deceitful grip Satan can use on a individual. How true the warning God gives us to beware of Satan's deceptions for he roams the earth to see whom he can devour. The only way to be sure of God's protection is if we humble ourselves to Him recognizing that without His Spirit, we cannot do anything of ourselves. A person with God's Spirit is not boastful, arrogant, self glorifying and will not attack others to make him/her self appear as knowledgable. Mat 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. Jam 4:6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. Jam 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up 1Pe 5:6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Beware of attacking the humble for God hears their cries... Psa 9:12 When he maketh inquisition for blood, he remembereth them: he forgetteth not the cry of the humble. DOVEY |
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Dovey, you don't know it now, and may never know it, but you are in the Satanic delusions which lead to total destruction from God. You know nothing about the things God tells me to fight. You know nothing about this fellow, who called Jesus Christ a false messiah here, many, many times. All you know is that he upholds some foolish notion that somehow God lost his ability to give us his word in our own langauge, and that people who know absolutely nothing about some old ancient 'pretend-to-be Hebrew language' think they know more than the Holy men whom God anointed to give us his Word in English. Why should an English speaking person need some deluded old symbols, that some pretend to be knowledgable person 'claims' is Hebrew, therefore more trustworthy than the Holy Word God has given to the COMMON PEOPLE? It is nothing but a horrible trap of Satan and his missionaires. You who deny the Holy KJV, pretending you are SOOOO SMARTOOOO THAT YOU CAN DISCERN WHAT IS OF GOD AND WHAT IS FALSE. AND YOU CAN'T EVEN READ THE BOOK OF ACTS AND LEARN THE ONLY TRUE WAY OF SALVATION! THIS MAN WHOM I REBUKED, (CALL IT BASHING IF YOU MUST.... OBEYING sATAN) but I am telling you and everyone else who reads this, IF YOU CAN'T REBUKE THOSE WHO DENY JESUS CHRIST AS OUR MESSIAH AND SAVIOUR, AND CALLS HIM A DEVIL, AND THE WORD OF GOD EVIL,, THEN YOU ARE PROVING THAT YOU TOO, ARE A MISSIONARIE OF SATAN. yOU MAY AS WELL DROP THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN SCARE ME INTO DROPPING THE FIGHT AGAINST SATAN. HE IS OF SATAN AND SO ARE YOU! What is this world led you to believe that God's Saints should hold our peace while Satan's ministers shout loud and long that Jesus, the one who died for me, is a fake and an idol god? where is this world did you get such FALSE AND DEADLY NOTIONS? Why is it that you have absolutely NO UNDERSTANDING OF ANY TRUTH? i SAY it is because you have fallen into the trap of JEWISH FABLES, AS DID THIS JESUS HATING MAN, YESHAUAL. DENYING THE ONLY NAME GIVEN AMONG MEN WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED --- JESUS CHRIST. Do you also deny Jesus Christ? If so, I strongly rebuke you and bash you also. and thank my God that he allowed me this privilege of rebuking you bastards who deny Jesus Christ and call the Word of God full of errors. I ask HOW DO YOU KNOW? wHO TOLD YOU THE KJV HAS ERRORS? Show them to me. I am quite sure you think Acts is in total error. So it proves that you have no salvation or even the hope of it. so I rebuke you loud and clear for you evil words here against the Holy KJV, which men gave their lives to give to the world!!! and you hate it. You hate NT Salvation... YOu are toooo proud to humble youself before the eternal God, accept HIs Holy Word, be water baptized in the precious name of JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF YOUR SIN, AND RECEIVE THE PRECIOUS HOLY GHOST, SPEAKING IN TONGUES AS THE SPIRIT GIVES UTTERANCE. So now. You just go throw away your only hope for eternal salvation and join the ranks of those DEVILS such as this yeshuah, who called Jesus Christ false and evil so many times, I HAD TO BASH HIM, AND I BASH YOU ALSO. YOU ARE A BASTARD AGAINST GOD'S TRUTH. SO NOW, HOW DO YOU LIKE THIS? IF I COULD NOT FIGHT AGAINST THESE WICKED MEN, WHO SEEK ONLY TO LEAD OTHERS INTO THE DEATH TRAP THEY THEMSELVES HAVE FALLEN INTO, I WOULD BE NOTHING. YOU MUST NEVER READ THE WORD. After all, where is it? you are too ignorant to know that Jesus bashed certain of satan's missionaires. Paul did. Peter did. Moses did. Even had the earth open up and swallow them alive. You are so out of touch with the truth of God, that it would scare you to death. you are in total ignorance of God and his word and his salvation. so you just follow on down that road to destruction that you love so much. but your sneering remarks will never stop me from fighting these wicked men who deny Jesus Christ and the KJV. sO I REBUKE YOU FOR CALLING THAT WORD OF GOD A LIE. IT IS HAS ERROR THAT IS LIES. SO YOU CALL GOD A LIE. I BASH YOU FOR THIS. BASH, BASH BAH, GO JOIN THAT WICKED MAN AND HELP HIM LEAD AS MANY AS POSSIBLE INTO HELL WITH YOU!!! I REBUKE YOUR LYING MOUTH. I BASH YOU. YOU HEAR ME. I BASH YOU FOR YOUR FIGHT AGAINST JESUS CHRIST, THE HOLY GHOST AND HIS KINGDOM AND HIS HOLY WORD. YOU ARE A MISSIONARIE OF SATAN. BASH, BASH BASH.... ANYONE ELSE IN HERE LOVE JESUS AND THE HOLY KJV ENOUGH TO JOIN ME IN BASHING THIS LIAR AND SPEAKER FOR SATAN? Jo Smith ....strongly against you hypocrites who hate all truth and think you can find salvation, DODGING GOD'S ONLY CHOSEN WAY.........TOOOPROUD TO HUMBLE YOURSELF AND ACCEPT THE HOLY GHOST! nOW fake 'christian, with your fake sweetness, FIGHT ME SOME MORE WITH YOUR SUGAR. YOU ARE A STINK IN MY NOSTRILS AND I AM QUITE SURE YOU ARE TO THE TRUTH GOD AND JESUS CHIST ALSO. GO GET YOU OLD TRUTH-HATING FRIENDS AND COME BACK AND SLANDER ME SOME MORE....SEEING YOU KEEP THE TEN AND DO NOT DARE BARE FALSE WITNESS.....PIGS WALLOWING IN THE SLOP. GO EAT SOME MORE SLOP....FOR YOU ARE A SPIRITUAL PIG. DOGS EAT VOMIT. YOU MOST GLADLY EAT VOMIT.......SO IT TELLS US YOU ARE DOG,...AND I MIGHT ADD. A MAD ONE AT THAT. now, how do you like this rebuke, miss fake sugar? fight God some more and I will fight you some more. your lying mouth needs to be stopped, as does that wicked yeshuah and beffers, and all of your rotten kind. May the Eternal God soon stop all your truth-hating mouths!!! |
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Dovey, What do you mean by this? In fact Satan quoted scripture many times. Bashing people thinking we know all there is to know is already part of the deceitful grip Satan can use on a individual. Freeborn does not claim to know everything. If you would read the WORD for yourself, and cast aside everything that you have been taught to believe, maybe you would understand. Where does the KJV have errors? Show them here. Tweety |
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Tweety, that is one of Satan's main tricks = Satan quotes Scripture..... I ask --- what is it supposed to do? Make us stop quoting Scripture? Disbelieve the Scripture? Think about this --- WHY do satan's missionaries speak this same old tale so much? They all use this. think about this--- you NEVER hear those of us who believe the NT and truth, speaking this lie. You never hear US saying the KJV has error (lies) in it. If it does, WHERE ON THIS EARTH IS A TRUE SCRIPTURE, WHICH ONE CAN STUDY AND SHEW OURSELVES APPROVED TO GOD? THAT SILLY LOOKING scram-bo-junk which yeshuahs posted here? why he did not even recognize his own stuff when I posted it back to him! See! He could no more read that 'stuff' (if indeed it was a true language) than I could. He truly had no idea what that weird looking stuff said, if it said anything! and people are going to thrust aside the precious KJV and trust that inintellibible stuff with their eternal lives? How foolish is this? Besides, why bother so much with ancient HEBREW? tHE NT is all that contains the plan of salvation, and it was NOT WRITTEN IN HEBREW! sEE THEIR FOLLY? and they accuse me of evil because I expose this trick of satan, hoping to save their souls from hell fire. and that is exactly where they are bound, if they do not repent and turn from this their hate of God's truth. but what gets me with this 'dovey' is her hypocricy.....in pretending to be so humble, sweet and good spoken.....in that she lambasts me with so much venom and hate that it stinks, slanders me, falsly accuses me, while AT THE SAME TIME CLAIMING IT IS EVIL TO SPEAK SO TO A PERSON. See! It is righteousness to SPEAK SO UGLY TO FREEBORN. But I am a devil to expose such wicked people as that yeshuahs was and is. why? Because he also hates the name of JESUS CHRIST AND THE KJV. and of course they all hate the GIFT OF TONGUES. Jo |
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Dovey exposed her true nature in this. She watches the board, but finds nothing of interest UNTIL I sent that thread back to the top, with this evil yeshuahs junk in it. then she saw a place to LAMBLAST ME AND TRY TO MAKE ME LOOK VERY EVIL. Does she know that he calls Jesus the false messiah? and an idol god? and of course she joins with him in calling the Word of God a LIE. an error is a lie. so if it has error, IT CANNOT BE THE WORD OF GOD. So WHERE IS THE WORD OF GOD FOR US? that foolish looking junk which they call Hebrew? Then how will we learn how to be saved? by trusting some modern day folks, who also hate the truth, to tell us what Moses said? Well I have news for them.......we will not be saved by the word of Moses. We must be saved by the Word of Jesus Christ and HIS APOSTLES. NOW THAT IS WHAT THEY ALL HATE......THE WORDS OF THE APOSTLES. Jo |
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| | | From: Dovey | Sent: 8/28/2008 11:27 PM |
Dovey exposed her true nature in this. She watches the board, but finds nothing of interest UNTIL I sent that thread back to the top, with this evil yeshuahs junk in it.< Freeborn> Sure I watch in the hopes that something will change for the positive. There are many threads in here to post replies on, but that would be a waste of time don't you think? Just to be told that I don't know anything? And that you do? What is the sense in that?? Stating that, in all the versions of the Bible there are mistranslations with words is not trying to put doubt in anyone's mind. It's fact. Look at the positive side........Inspite of the fact that there have been mistranslations (yes even in the kjv)....God's message is crystal clear. Knowing about and realizing that these errors and mistranslations of words are there, helps us study more and it also strengthens our faith in God. His message cannot and will not be changed even with those existing errors. They are only mistranslations and they are KNOWN as such. We all can agree that those errors were NOT placed there by the original writers inspired by the Spirit of God. I'm talking about Jesus, the prophets and the apostles. So you see??? Why get all offended and start to attack people when they aren't really fighting. Sure we can disagee, even Peter and Paul disagreed. Is that grounds for a battle field instead of a peaceful place to compare and learn? As Believers we should have the faith to understand that God's truth will sign inspite of any of us. DOVEY |
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| | | From: Dovey | Sent: 8/28/2008 11:37 PM |
Where does the KJV have errors? Show them here. Tweety If you're really interested Tweety you can checkout that link. You will see Tweety that just because those mistranslations (errors) exist, it does not take away from scripture in the slightest. I use the NKJV for church. However, I like comparing other versions. I hope you understand that I'm NOT bashing the kjv. Don't limit yourself. We don't have to limit ourselves. DOVEY |
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Dovey, your words are from total ignorance and utter ridiculousness. To say that teaching that God's word has error in it, strengthens faith in God is of the worst sort of deception and wickedness. What truth do you teach that could benefit me? I truly would like to know. You, who do not even like the word, HOLY GHOST, is going to teach me something? or benefit anyone? and you can bash me all you please, yet come back and accuse me of evil because I rebuked an infidel who called Jesus Christ a false messiah and an idol god! How rank! No True Christian can call God's word lies. to say it has error is calling it a lie. You are accepting some MAN's word that it has error. how do you really know? can you go back to some 'original' writing and prove it? No, you cannot and the entire world knows that no one can! Just because some foolish web site teaches this lie, does not mean that I AM GOING TO LAY DOWN MY FAITH AND ACCEPT THEIR LIES. If you KNOW of the error, why do you not tell us, instead of referring to a web stie? proves you DO NOT KNOW. yOU are not one bit interested in 'peacefully' learning the truth from me, which God has taught me, yet you expect me to jump over and pretend that going to some synagogue, which is afraid of HOLY GHOST, on sat, is going to benefit me? You are too foolish for words. You have picked up on Satan's words and are strowing them far and wide. More punishment from God for you! That is all this is. I sincerely tried to help you. But you proved that you are not one bit interested in being helped or taught. You love Satan's message, so stay there. deprive yourself of the truth and eternal life. I cannot stop you. I am yet to see any 'pretend 4th commandment keeper' who does not hate God's truth and the Apostle's doctrine. I am yet to see one who does not bash the KJV, for they KNOW it proves their religion to be FALSE. So WHAT IN THIS WORLD ARE YOU GOING TO STUDY FOR TRUTH IF ALL THE TRANSLATIONS ARE FULL OF ERROR??? THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS WORD FOR YOU, THAT IS WHAT! BUT I AM HERE TO TELL YOU, MY GOD IS MUCH GREATER THAN ALL OF THAT. HE DID NOT LEAVE ME WITHOUT A PURE WORD TO FOLLOW. Your words are of a total ignorant UNBELIEVER. To call God's word a lie, proves you are in total disbelief of truth. You accuse God of being totally INCOMPETENT. away with your foolishness!! |
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I hope you understand that I'm NOT bashing the kjv. Don't limit yourself. We don't have to limit ourselves. DOVEY
dON'T limit myself? what is that supposed to mean? If you mean by studying the KJV, it proves to me you have never studied it. It is totally UNLIMITED. No one could EVER get to the depth of it. One could study it for eternity and still learn more from it. This is the true pity that satan has a world full of ignorants, such as yourself, campanigning against this most marvelous of all creations = the Holy Word of God in pure English. No, I am not limited at all. I wish I had a million years to study that precious word and get the delight I had from it, reading it last night, until 2:AM, and laughing my head off at it. It is so wonderful there are no words for it. what a horrible pity that God allows such deceived souls as yourself to try and turn many more against this precious, eternal masterpiece of glory! |
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Let some more of the world read this and see that Jo Smith is not afraid to rebuke satan's missionaries and those who call Jesus Christ a false messiah and an idol god. It they have the truth, let them stand. But they cannot stand. You all think I am ashamed of my rebuke of these who hate truth and are strewing all over the world, that the precious KJV is full of error? Am I the only person who is not afraid to take this stand and rebuke this kind of evil and hypocricy as Dovey displays? If so, I gladly bear the reproach which so many cast on me for my willingness to stand up and be counted for JESUS CHRIST AND THE HOLY KJV. I REBUKE ALL WHO CALL JESUS CHRIST A DEVIL AND THE KJV FULL OF ERROR OR ANY ERROR. YOU ARE CALLING THE ETERNAL GOD A LIE. I STILL REBUKE YOU EVEN THOUGH I AM BEING HURLED ALL OVER FOR EVIL, BECAUSE OF THE STAND I TOOK IN THIS THREAD. SO BE IT. JESUS CHRIST IS NOT AGAINST MY STAND FOR HIS NAME AND TRUTH, WHICH IS THE ONLY MEANS OF SALVATION. I AM THE ONE TRYING TO SAVE YOU FOLKS FROM SATAN'S DECEPTION. |
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