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God and Jesus : Did Jesus Break His Promise?
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From: MSN NicknameTweety134  (Original Message)Sent: 5/31/2008 1:03 AM
Did Jesus Break His Promise or do the people that claim to kmow him really do not?
 
I want evryone to ponder on this scripture:
 
John 14:12 (KJV)
14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Now if you would read the above verse Jesus said that his followers would do works like he did when he was here. And we would be able to do GREATER works than he did. So I ask what happened? Did he say that miracles would cease? NO! He never said that. So where are the miracles today? When you claim to follow Jesus you believe in everything he says right? So I ask you: Where are the people that are suppose to be doing these miracles greater than Jesus? I have not heard one person being raised from the dead, no casting out of demons. No healing of the sick.

I believe it is because people have no faith. They say they LOVE GOD, JESUS etc. But do they truly follow Jesus? I do not doubt Jesus. I doubt man. I doubt that he truly follows Jesus and what he says. He says believe me. Where is your belief? Where is your faith? So many people doubt God. That is why no prayers are being answered. Many people doubt GOD's WORD. That is why you do not see any miracles. So when will you start believing?

I just thought I would write this. Tweety





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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 5/31/2008 2:36 AM
Tweety, when you say you do not doubt Jesus, then you say you see no healings or devils cast out of miracles,  are you sure you do not doubt?  Think it over.  He said these signs SHALL follow those that believe.
 
Now I agree with you on one thing,   ...if all those who 'claim' to believe, really do,  where is their signs?  or faith?  and how can a church believe, when they teach AGAINST all of these things?  Think!  That church could not possibly be a BELIEVING CHURCH.
 
Well,  perhaps it would help you to read our testimony board.  I see healing many times.  I have not only been healed myself, many times, but have prayed for others and they received healing.
 
And I can assure you, there are many more of these in my life than I have ever taken the time to type up.  Really need to do more, but sometimes I think it a waste of time, as most people just sneer at it and call it lies.  But It does not matter,  I still know that I see God at work in my life every single day.
 
If you do not see God at work in your life, you need to do what he says......stop putting it off....till some more convienent time.
 
I personally believe that the word  'greater'  here, does not mean something more outstanding than Jesus did,  but the 'greater' refers to more of it.....due to more people who should be doing it.  And I can assure you, that first witness, the Apostolic Church of Peter's day,  did that very thing.
 
It is sure that false teaching and the great falling away has caused most of these things to cease...not that Jesus will not.....but there is really no true faith..when a church teaches against these great things, as most churches do,,then their people are not going to have the faith.
 
When I left the Baptist church, I had no idea how to have faith.  I longed for it.  I prayed for it>   I sought God for this gift of faith.  He gave me faith.
 
When I left the Jesus-only church, I did not know how to have faith or live by faith. when I left all of the churches I ever attended, I still had no idea how to live by faith.
 
But when I left church and looked solely to God, he taught me how to live by faith,  now to have faith,  how to be healed by faith, how to heal by faith, how to walk through life by faith.
 
He has been moving on me for a few days to start teaching some messages on how to have faith.   So now, I see it is greatly needed........just need to find the time.
 
I have miracles in my life, that would keep me busy typing up...if I did.  I cannot type everything which God does in my life....would have time for nothing else.
 
I admit that I have never raised a dead person to life...but I did raise a dead bird once.  Not I, of course,  but through my prayer, the dead bird came back to life and few off. 
I believe I will someday do this.  But if not, I still know that I live by faith.  That is what counts.
 
 I have had many experiences with casting out devils.  God showed me exactly how to do this.
 
Hope this helps you. Read some of Larry's and my testimonies.

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From: MSN NicknameTweety134Sent: 5/31/2008 11:29 AM
Freeborn,
I do not doubt God's WORD. He said these things would happen. And they have in the past. But what about now? What happened to the miracles that Jesus said that people would be able to do when a person believed in HIM? Is it that a person does not believe in Him for everything? Is Jesus saying Oh Ye of little faith? I truly believe that is why we do not see miracles from people that claim to love GOD so much.
They doubt GOD's WORD in what it says. They rely on people to tell them what it says. I hate that!!!! One should read the WORD DAILY. STUDY THE WORD DAILY. And with that.... I think it is time for my morning reading. See you in a bit.
Tweety

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 5/31/2008 6:47 PM
You are right Tweety.  But do not think that just because it is not widly broadcast, that there are not some of US today, who do have the miracles working in our own lives.  I do and I know of others who do also.
 
God does not have to make a big show in the world.  it is for our own personal lives.  It is for you.  Just believe it, ask God for it, not doubting, and it will be given to you.  ...unless you ask amiss, and in doubt.
 
Yes, the church folks have no faith, because they will not come into His Truth, they do not study the word, they just listen to some made up doctrine and the paid preachers never teach them how to pray, how to have faith, for most of them do not have any.
 
But do not get the false idea that it is not present in the lives of those who DO BELIEVE AND OBEY.  It is there.
 
I also hate for people to cling to man-made doctrine and rebuke all who disagree, mock, make giggling ugly remarks, and think this is the ways of God.  It is not of God. 
 
Rebuking false doctrine is of God,  but mocking with sneers and jabs and not knowing the truth themselves, is of the devil.  It has blinded almost everyone today.
 
You said.....they have happened in the past....but what about now......and you do not see that as doubt?  Think on this.  it is doubt-- for God TODAY.  He has not changed.  What he did in other days, he still does today. 
 
I have, by faith, stopped huricane storms,  I know that Larry has, and I saw my Ex-husband raise his hands and stop one of the worst tornado storms I have ever seen.  It stopped at the instant he told it to.  and many such things I have seen and experienced.  The thing  is  to   believe,,  and not doubt...and you shall have what you say. 
 
Do you believe this?  Then act upon it.

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From: MSN NicknameTweety134Sent: 5/31/2008 7:01 PM
That is so true Freeborn on what you said. How many people have said they believe in GOD and whenthe first emergency happens-they call an ambulance? That is believeing man will save you. And it is not man...that will save you....It is GOD that and will save you. It all points to "FAITH". Just like you said...People have no faith in GOD's WORD. So why read it? Without Faith-no miracles will happen in ones lives.
I just wonder how many truly believe and have faith. I know you and Larry do. But what about the other people we have encountered across the internet? They say they believe in Jesus. But do they? They question his WORD....They have no right to do that...If he said he would save the believer...HE will....If he said all that serve idols will perish....They will....Why all the doubt in what GOD says he will do? They do not believe in it. That is why they see no miracles-they can not cast out demons...They can not heal the sick, dying, they can not even make a sinner repent and follow CHRIST. Because they do not believe what they read....So much doubt in their minds....When will they BELIEVE HIM?

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