MSN Home  |  My MSN  |  Hotmail
Sign in to Windows Live ID Web Search:   
go to MSNGroups 
Free Forum Hosting
 
Important Announcement Important Announcement
The MSN Groups service will close in February 2009. You can move your group to Multiply, MSN’s partner for online groups. Learn More
Build on the True Foundation[email protected] 
  
What's New
  
  Welcome  
  Welcome, by Isaiah  
  All topics  
  Pictures  
  Holy KJV Bible  
  Links  
  Posting guide  
  EMMANUEL  
  Emmanuel--Part two  
  Proof of Emmanuel  
  In The Beginnig  
  Question&Answer  
  Wel./new members  
  Testimonies  
  on trinity  
  On Jesus only  
  Jesus  
  Baptism  
  Gifts of Spirit  
  Law & Sabbath  
  Grace  
  Peace  
  Salvation  
  Eve  
  Adam; Satan  
  The Beginning  
  God and Jesus  
  Day of Lord  
  Church: Israel  
  Genesis  
  The WORD  
  Women  
  Rapture?  
  Revelation  
  Beast Heads  
  Fall of OT  
  Psalm  
  Special Verses  
  Prayer Request  
  Dake's Studies  
  Let's Praise Him  
  Dreams /Visions  
  Family  
  SACRED NAME  
  gift messages  
  Ellen White  
  Holidays  
  Heresy  
  Triva Board  
  Health Tips  
  For Unbelievers  
  Birthdays  
    
  
  
  Tools  
 
The WORD : Let them be accursed
Choose another message board
 
     
Reply
 Message 1 of 2 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 10/11/2008 4:00 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 5/15/2008 6:39 PM

Let them be accursed

2jo 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

2jo 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

2jo 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

Jesus always said, My Father is greater than I. So if those who come saying that Jesus and His father are one and the same person, bid them no God Speed, for if you do, you are partaker of his EVIL DEEDS. Did you hear that? It is EVIL to teach other than what Jesus taught.

The word, BOTH, means two different ones. People claim they are one and the same, but then claim that the Son speaks words about his Father, which are not the Father’s own words. If it were true that the Father is the inner person of the Son, then the Son could have no mind of his own and speak words which were not the Father speaking. So how could he truthfully say, My Father is greater than I? If the Son is the Father or the Father is the Son, then they could not have two different minds speaking.

 

Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Ga 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

The gospel of Christ�?My Father is greater than I. Those who come bringing some other doctrine are perverting the gospel of Christ. Paul said let them be accursed. John said do not bid them God Speed. Paul said the gospel which he preached was not after man nor was he taught it by man, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. So Jesus Christ taught Paul. Jesus Christ always said, My Father is greater than I. His Word says that if you abide in the doctrine of Christ, you have BOTH the Father AND the Son. Anyone who knows English knows that this means two different ones.

When others come telling us that Jesus Christ is a false messiah, then we are to let them be accursed. That is not the doctrine of Christ. If you bid them God Speed, then you are partaker of their evil deeds. It is evil to teach such things. It is perverting the gospel of Christ and leading souls into damnation.

Heb 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

This says that Jesus is the Son of God. It says let us come BOLDLY unto the throne of GRACE. Now those idol worshippers under Moses, were afraid to even hear the voice of God. They hovered in total FEAR, at the foot of that mountain, unable to come near to God. They were so afraid of God that they said, let us not hear his voice anymore, lest we die. Is that what Jesus brought to us? NO! Fear NOT. That is what Jesus brought to us. Let us come boldly to the throne of GRACE. This is how we obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

Now we have many in our world today who claim that we are to still be as those idol worshippers, = afraid to come near to the throne of Grace. They claim we must study old Hebrew and learn the ways of those idol worshipping Jews, in order to know any truth or find God. But is this truth? No, it is perverting the gospel of Christ. Paul said let these be accursed. John said, do not bid them God speed, or you are partaker of their EVIL DEEDS.

I am accused of being unkind and bashing people because I dare to obey this gospel and rebuke them for their evil teachings. So gladly will I bear the reproach for teaching truth.

People tell us they have access to the original Hebrew and they trust what some man is telling them that it says. They cannot read one word of it, so it tells them NOTHING. They claim that they do not go by TRANSLATED words. But in order for them to think they know even one word of Hebrew, it must be TRANSLATED to them by some modern day person, who truly does not know one word of Hebrew either.

These people are so deceived that they actually believe that the person telling them what old Hebrew says knows what he is talking about. He truly is deceived into thinking he is not going by TRANSLATED words, yet if he has one word he understands, it must be TRANSLATED to him, by some present day babbler.

If you cannot read a certain language, if you do not understand it for yourself, then it must be TRANSLATED TO YOU.

We had a man in here who brought some stuff in, which he said was Hebrew. He then proceeded to translate it to us. He pretended he knew what it said. He said it was from Exodus, telling us another name for Messiah. That name is not in Scripture anywhere.

A few days later, God moved on me to do a thing. I copied and pasted his exact words, (the Hebrew), and asked him to read it for me. He unjoined the board and never said another word. He KNEW he did not know how to read that stuff. Rather than admit to this, he just unjoined, without another word. See, God gave the inspiration of how to prove that this man could not read one word of Hebrew. Indeed, he had no way of knowing that the stuff he brought here was really Hebrew. For all he knew it could just as well have been cursing God.

Yet he thinks he does not need TRANSLATED words. Now we have another member teaching this same foolishness. He says he has access to Hebrew and that he learned from Hebrew and not translated words. I will prove to him the very same way, that he does not know one word of Hebrew and therefore, it must be TRANSLATED to him. And the person pretending to translate it does not know original Hebrew either.

Neither is it necessary. God gave us his pure Word in English. And if any tell you He did not, let them be accursed. They bring another gospel. It is EVIL. Jesus Christ never did have an OT Name. He was not of that old law. He was of Grace, therefore he had a NT name. It was never HEBREW.

Therefore, LET THEM BE ACCURSED. We are not to fear but come boldly to the throne of grace. These people teach people to even fear to spell GOD out. So they end up using a shortened form of CURSING GOD.

People, those who lead you, are leading your soul into damnation, if they do not teach you the gospel of Christ, Paul and John.

By: Jo Smith



First  Previous  2 of 2  Next  Last 
Reply
 Message 2 of 2 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameohwheelSent: 10/14/2008 3:17 AM
I am studying up on this.  it seems real serious to teach something other than what Jesus taught.