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From:

Freeborn551 (Original Message)

Sent: 12/28/2007 9:31 AM

Let me reason with you a minute.

Let me ask you a thing. Just reasoning. Are you American? Am I? How many others are just as American? See?

Does your being american make it where no other person can be American? Do not we both have the same rights and power as an American?

Are you human? Does this mean no other person can be human?

Am I any less of a woman, just because billions of others are just as woman. Do I not have the power to produce children, as millions of other women have?

Are you any less of a man because billions of others are men?

Then God's kingdom is exactly the same way. There is not just one member of the God kingdom. Paul explained it in 1Cor 12 and Romans 12, the same way. As our human body is made up many members, yet it is just ONE body, so is Christ.

Christ is made up many members. Christ is the IMAGE of GOD.

So God is also a body made up of MANY MEMBERS.

They are more than the stars of heaven or the sand on the sea shore. Each is just as 'GOD' as the other.

Each is just as ALMIGHTY as the other. The angels are the same way.

Is there just 1 ANGEL? No. they are surely more than the stars in number.

Is any of them less ANGEL than the others? Of course not.

So is God. He is a kingdom of innumerable members, each with the very same character and power. THEY ARE ALL ONE.

We are all one.

God made MAN =- human kingdom , IN HIS IMAGE.

God is not just 1 person. He is many members.

Jesus is part of that God kingdom, since he resurrected and ascended to heaven. God set Jesus on God's throne in heaven. (He was not part of the God kingdom, while on earth. He was of the human kingdom.)

Jesus' kingdom is to be on this earth.

He is not in his own throne now,,, but he is on the throne of his Father, with just the very same power, understanding and glory as the Father has.

All power in heaven and earth was GIVEN TO JESUS, THUS THE POWER OF THE GODHEAD RESTS BODILY IN JESUS CHRIST. God told us to worship his Son, thus making him our God. Heb. one.

He now rules as God. Thus he is our Lord and our God. But also his father is our God. But we have to go to him through his Son, Jesus Christ.

The Word of God teaches this. It does not teach that God left heaven, got into Mary, and became a human baby.

That teaching is of the DEVIL.

From:

Freeborn551

Sent: 3/21/2008 8:12 PM

God is not a woman. Neither is he a man.

1sa 15:29 And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent.

Job 9:32 For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment. Job 9:33 Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both.

Nu 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

There is more than the required three witnesses proving that God is not a man. Surely you know that Jesus was a man?

Jesus told the woman at the well, God is a Spirit.

God is not a man, neither the son of man. Jesus is a man, and the son of man. Jesus is not a spirit.

Lu 24:37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. Lu 24:38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Lu 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

This was spoken by Jesus after his resurrection. He was still not a spirit.

He was A MAN OF SORROWS AND ACQUAINTED WITH GRIEF.

One God and one mediator between God and men, THE MAN, CHRIST JESUS.

From:

Freeborn551

Sent: 7/4/2008 11:23 AM

I want to start a new thread to discuss this one subject. We have a lot going on in the other threads; too many subjects to do one rightly.

This is a very important issue, which the entire world is deceived about. So lets discuss this in a Christian, civil manner. Lets give scripture for everything we say and the others may prove it. Does it really say what you say it is saying, or not? Let's find out.

Everyone is welcome to join in on this discussion, but please try to stay on this one subject.

Lets see who can use Scripture and teach rightly, and those who must sling mud, falsly accuse, make snide remarks, insult etc.

If you cannot stay in a discussion without these things, you need to repent and grow up. Study the Word to have something to GIVE.

If you give an answer, be prepared to prove its interpretation with written Scripture. If the answer you give is not written in Scripture, just the way you state it, it is a false interpretation. All things must be proven with KJV Scripture.

Now I will start with this question:

John 17:1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

John 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

Now in the above, Jesus is speaking to His Heavenly Father, not himself. Jesus said to his Father, as thou (you) ((means someone other than the speaker))-- has given him power over all flesh, that he (the son), should give eternal life to as many as THOU hast given HIM>
Now is Jesus speaking about only himself here? It is certainly not correct English, if he was.
But
notice verse three-- what did Jesus say life eternal is? To know THEE (AGAIN, MEANS, YOU)
THE ONLY TRUE GOD------AND---- (MEANS IN ADDITION TO THIS)---JESUS CHRIST whom THOU (you ) sent.

Did Jesus SEND himself? Is he talking to himself here?

Look at this. read it. Jesus said the way to eternal life, is to know YOU, the only true God, speaking to his Father, not himself.

Some of you better check up.......do you KNOW THE FATHER OF JESUS CHRIST?

Jesus did not say, that they may know ME, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, now did He? course not.

So then if you say that, you changed this Scripture, the words of Jesus himself. You took this away and added something else in. Punishable by eternal DEATH.

Verse four, I, (meaning Jesus, the speaker), have finished the work, YOU (his Father) gave ME to do.

And that is talking to himself? No way.

John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

Look at those words---- I COME TO THEE. If the only existance of the Father was inside Jesus, as his own personal spirit, how is it that he now said to his Father, I COME TO THEE. How would he have to go to his father?

Then, that they may be ONE, AS WE ARE.

How is it then that we are ALL ONE AS THEY ARE? ALL OF US? ONE?

ANSWER WITH Scripture, if you can. If not, then study.

1 Corinthians 12:12-15 (King James Version)

12For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. ( so if Christ is one and has many members as the body does, then the God Kingdom has to be many members. Christ is the visable image of a invisable God

13For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. ( he said we all are baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free;) 14For the body is not one member, but many. ( see the many members in the body.)

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