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 Message 1 of 11 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameJohnTheRevelator10  (Original Message)Sent: 3/24/2008 8:10 AM
Genesis 1:4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

 5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

oks nows whats ole jon wants to nose ifs dis hear is connected somehows to dis hear?

  1. Luke 24:1
    Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
  2. John 20:1
    The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

dos u knose? ole jons just curious about thes hear. pondering on theses downs ats thes crawdads holes    



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/25/2008 12:21 PM
Yes, Jon.  dem crawdads shore must be helpings youse a lots.  Dat is exactly whut it is speaking about.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/25/2008 12:23 PM
Jon, here is the beginning of my message which I wrote on Day One.
 
 

~~ A Study in Genesis One ~~ By: Jo Smith **** Feb. 3, 2007

Day One

So you think you understand creation, eh? You think you understand Genesis One? OK, let’s just look at this for a bit. Let’s see how much is truly understood about creation. I am not teaching in this message. I am showing you and myself things which have not been understood or studied properly or taught by anyone that I have ever heard or know of. We will take this a day at a time.

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Ge 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Verse one: God created the heaven and the earth, in the beginning. But what beginning is He speaking about? Notice that this ‘heaven�?is spelled with a small h. Now I know that many people who do not think that the KJV is a pure Word of God, will not make anything of this, but I do. I know it means something. As I have stated many times, you must find another place in Scripture which explains, or interprets each and every verse you are studying. If not, then you do not have the truth. No one, not one soul, can just decide in their own minds what the Word of God means.

Most people fail to realize that the Scripture is not an earthly language, even though it uses English-looking words. The Words all have a spiritual meaning. So only Scripture can rightly interpret any of it.

So to start our study, what does the Scripture reveal the ‘beginning�?to be? It clearly reveals that Jesus is the beginning. (I am not going to list many references in this message, because I have already taught all of this fully in other messages.) So here we find that God created, in Jesus Christ, a heaven and an earth. This heaven and this earth is inside Jesus. It is part of him, or he is this heaven and earth. So this heaven and earth must be rightly interpreted from other Scripture. The ‘earth�?is the body. Our body came from the dust of the earth, so it is ‘one�?with the earth. Heaven is the spiritual part or the inner man.

Verse two: the earth part of this creation in Jesus, was without form and void. So one must find the true interpretation of this somewhere in other Scripture. It is revealed in Isa. 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. Isa 52:14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/25/2008 12:27 PM
More of this message:
 

Let’s look at this for explanation of what this darkness and light is: 1John 2:8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. 2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 1jo 2:10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 2:11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

Now this makes it very clear that love is the light and hate is the darkness. So he said if we have come to love, then we are in the light and the darkness is past. This proves then that this darkness and light is not speaking of the light and darkness which we call day and night. It is not concerning this at all. These ‘days�?in Genesis one, is not our natural days at all. This love, or light, can only come from Jesus Christ. He is the LIGHT, so he is the love. He is the day star, which is the sun. But it does not mean that sun up in the sky. If you cannot see this, please pray for a spiritual mind. Else you will always walk in the darkness, which has blinded your eyes.

Mt 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/25/2008 12:29 PM
I will give this one more excerpt and then wait for your response.  If you desire to read this entire message, look on the Genesis board.
 

This shows that Jesus and his children will be as the sun in his kingdom. He is our Father. So the light in day one is Jesus�?love, or grace. It is the tree of life. Since ‘hate�?is the darkness, then it is showing that Satan, or Adam, had taken the world, (the deep) into the death of law. So his HATRED for God, truth, and God’s creation, was this darkness which had blinded the eyes, or minds of those in his day. So then I see that hate is the same as death or law. See, under the law there is no love. All transgressions must be punished, even with death. There is no forgiveness or grace. So in this first day, or Jesus�?natural life, there was both life and death, for Satan was there, attempting to tear Jesus down. Both the tree of life and the tree of death, law, were there in Jesus�?life.

Then you must find out what the face of the waters is. What is ‘waters�?in Scripture. Rev. 17:15 will give you this answer. So after you find that waters means peoples of the world, then you must find out what it means that the Spirit of God moved on the ‘face�?of these peoples. Do any of you know? Have you searched to find out? If not, then you really have not cared what this passage of Scripture really means, and you will have swallowed down lies of man.

Then God said let there be light. So what is this light? Now I want you to take note of the fact that God spoke for this light on day one. Remember this.

John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not

You will need the above verses with this. V4, God saw this light and said it was good. He then divided this light from the darkness. He called this light Day. The Capital D means this is a personification. So who is the Day? 2Pe 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

Now we know this is speaking of the same light John spoke of in John one. See here it again states that this light shined in the darkness, or a dark place. Then he spoke of the day star arising in your hearts. So this day star is the same as the Light which was Called Day by God. So then we see that God spoke for a light on day one, which is the Day. He is the Day Star. He is the light shining into the darkness, which the darkness cannot understand or comprehend.


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 Message 6 of 11 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameTweety134Sent: 3/26/2008 9:06 AM
 
 
Freeborn,
OK. I understand what you are saying. But in Genesis when God said "Let there be light", I think that the light was already there but it was hidden by the darkness. You can say that God had created the light before he said this. The light was already created and also darkness was already there also. God is the creator of all things. So he created the light and the darkness before. He separated it in Genesis. We do not have true darkness now. The light always is there in the darkness. But that darkness in Genesis was darkness that had no light in it. I would not want to experience that darkness that is in Genesis.  Tweety

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/26/2008 8:30 PM
That is such a great and deep truth, Tweety.  You are surely getting into a deep spiritual mind.  I am so glad to see this.  You are advancing very rapidly.  This is how we know we are God's children,...because we are growing  ... in grace and KNOWLEDGE.
 

when people claim to be living for God, year after year, with no advancement of knowledge and growth,  something is very wrong.
 
Yes, the TRUE LIGHT, the grace and knowledge of God, was always there.  That darkness was the evil Adam brought in and covered up that true light.  That LIGHT was the thoughts of God, for his thoughts are LIFE.
 
People miss this truth by trying to say that Jesus was the light and the word.  But no.  Jesus had the light and the Word inside himself, for God gave it to him.  John one is speaking about the WORD, not a man.  Jesus is a man.
 
This is where the false doctrine came from.  Satan, or Adam, covered up this light with his LIES or darkness.
 
And yes, you are right,...in that this darkness is a horrible darkness without any light at all in it.  this is that total rebrobate MIND, which Adam plunged into, as shown in Romans one.
 
This is that outer darkness, where sinners will be sent, when they die without God........a darkness so dark that it will be torment and terror to those who are cast out there.
 
Again....love that beautiful picture.  Thanks.

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From: MSN NicknameTweety134Sent: 3/30/2008 3:31 AM
Freeborn I was reading Day One. And this is what I picked up:
2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 1jo 2:10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 2:11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
This is Cain and Abel. Cain was in Darkness. Just like his Father Adam. Abel walked in the light of the true WORD of GOD. He learned this from his mother EVE. Cain learned to lie like his Father, and said he was in the light of GOD, but he hated his brother because he knew he was in the TRUE light of GOD and he was not and that is why he killed him.  TWEETY

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/30/2008 2:43 PM
Yes, that is certainly a great truth, Tweety.  You are surely becoming a powerful minister of truth.  God is teaching you daily.  This is how it is supposed to be.  When folks claim to have Christ and do not learn as they go, they are deceived.
 
If he is teaching us, then we must be learning, right?
 
If he is not teaching us, then we do not have his spirit, for he said his spirit would lead us and guide us into all truth.  The Word says it comes a little at a time,  here a little, there a little,  verse upon verse, line upon line.  We must learn as we go, building one row after another, or getting deeper and deeper into that River of Life.
 
As I read Jon's opening message, just now, I  saw that the WEEK spoken of in Genesis one, is the New Move of God, beginning with the life of Jesus Christ.  His life is this week.  He was crucified on day six.  After his resurrection, he entered into day seven.  REST.
 
It has nothing to do with way backkkkkkkk yonder, in the pastttt.
see?

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From: MSN NicknameJohnTheRevelator10Sent: 3/30/2008 6:47 PM
As I read Jon's opening message, just now, I  saw that the WEEK spoken of in Genesis one, is the New Move of God, beginning with the life of Jesus Christ.  His life is this week.  He was crucified on day six.  After his resurrection, he entered into day seven.  REST.
 
It has nothing to do with way backkkkkkkk yonder, in the pastttt.
see?

see?ole jon backs froms theeeeeee crawdad holes
 
now this is whats ole jon was tryings to gets yalls to c.
the stone that was rolled away was the law.
the first day of the week begins with Jesus u are so right. let jons try to shows yall sonethings.
 
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image,
       in the image of God he created him;
       male and female he created them.  
dis hear iz stills going ons. its is a processs.
Jesus iz the only one in the image of God at this time.
ppl puts it wat backs yonders buts everthang starts withs Jesus, he iz the beginnings.    

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/30/2008 7:13 PM
Wow, Jon.  u is saying exactly the same thing which I teach.  That is exactly the truth.  I am so thankful to finally see someone else who understands this great truth.
 
That is great.....the stone was the law.  That is a marvelous revelation.  That is exactly the truth....Jesus is working now to bring more sons into this image of God.  As we are baptized into his body, via the Baptism of the Holy Ghost,  Acts 2 style,  then we become new creatures in Christ.  We are the female who was created on day six.  (not the one made from the dust of the ground rib of Adam).
But it is not complete until we do as Jesus did....come out of that grave in a glorified body.
 
Then we will be sons of God in the image of God.  Now we are sons of God in the image of his son.
 
It is an ongoing thing.  It will not be complete until Jesus returns and sets up his kingdom on earth.  Then all of his saints will be changed into the glorified image of God.

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