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Question&Answer : Does your Church??????
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 Message 1 of 71 in Discussion 
From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 5/23/2002 10:50 AM

  I have some questions on my mind which I think each of you should consider and find an answer to about your 'church'.  I feel that this is of utmost importance; and that you should take this very, very seriously.

Paul said in the end time, some would depart from the faith, teaching doctrines of devils;  having a  FORM of godliness     BUT  denying the  POWER thereof.  Then what did he say about that?

FROM  SUCH  TURN  AWAY!!!!!

People,  this is a  COMMAND  from God;  else Paul did not write the  WORD  OF  GOD.  

Whom do you believe?   Those hirelings of today ~~~~  or Paul = God's Word?????

Now, for my first question   ~~~

 DOES  YOUR  CHURCH  SEND  CHILDREN  OUT  TO  PLAY  WHILE  'CHURCH'  IS GOING ON??

IF  IT  DOES,  IT  IS  A SYNOGOUGE OF SATAN ~~~~~

TRAIN  UP  CHILDREN IN THE  WAY  THEY  SHOULD GO~~~~~

IS YOUR  CHURCH  'TRAINING'  CHILDREN  TO  PRAY?????

IS  YOUR   HOME   TRAINING  THE  CHILDREN  TO PRAY??????

OR  IS  IT  A  DARKENED  'NIGHT CLUB' OF  'INTERTAINMENT'?

IF  SO     IT  IS  A  SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN.

more to come~~~~

Jo

 

 


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 Message 57 of 71 in Discussion 
From: joieSent: 10/6/2002 1:34 AM
 Rev. 6: 7.  And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
 8.  And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Tom, this is where it shows the two riders of this fourth horse or fourth seal.

Death and Hell, both being Capitalized show a personification;  this means this is beings called or referred to as Death and Hell.  This does not mean physical death or hell, it is showing the nature of this fourth condition.


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 Message 58 of 71 in Discussion 
From: joieSent: 10/6/2002 1:48 AM
Jesus is Lord person:  if you are still here;
 
You are doing what Peter said of some in his day - wresting the Scriptures to your own destruction.  You may think you are being 'smart' now, using your mockery and insolent tongue against the things of God.  You may think you are 'smart' now, but when you depart this life, you will find out that you were being foolish.
 
Be not deceived, God is not mocked, what you sow, you will reap.
 
You are using a blasphemous tongue in your ignorance of God's word.  He will punish you if you do not repent. 
 
Now, I do not deny that many of the present day 'pentecostals' themselves do NOT understand these things; in fact most of them do not.  They themselves have been given a fake spirit; because their heart was not right in the sigh of God.
 
But you need to quit looking at them and look at the Book of Acts;  look at Peter, Paul and the other apostles.  Look at what they told us.
 
I know many of the pentecostles today do just what you said.  But I can tell you, here is one who did not get it that way.  Here is one who sought God diligently outside Church, and sought for the power of God; not to speak in tongues.  I did not want to speak in tongues; did not believe in it, as you do not now.  The first and only time I went to that altar, He called me very strongly,  He filled me as soon as I got there.  In two minutes or less, I did not know what was happening; nor was I in any control.  Praise His Holy Name.
 
I wanted God.  I asked Him to fill me with His power and glory.  I asked Him to keep them from messing with me as I had them seen them do others in their entheusiasm.  He answered me.  Not one soul messed with me;  God did not let them.  He gave me the H.G. exacly as in Acts.  I PREACHED in tongues; not faking; not having any control over it; not really knowing what I was doing; for indeed it was not me doing it; but God.
 
It is not as you are saying; not if it is real.  I did not move my lips or tongue or muscles or know what was being said.  He did it.  It is the most thrilling, glorious thing which can happen to one.  Did what you received be to you  JOY UNSPEAKABLE AND FULL OF GLORY?
 
If not, keep seeking till you find;  else you will find yourself in Hell someday.
 
Jo 

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 Message 59 of 71 in Discussion 
From: joieSent: 10/6/2002 1:53 AM
Dear Bro Isaiah, 
 
I appreciate your posting the tongues message here.  I did not know until just now that it is there.  Don't know how I missed it before.
 
At least one thing about it, none of these people here can stand before God and say they never heard it taught right.
 
Jo

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 Message 60 of 71 in Discussion 
From: tom doleySent: 10/10/2002 1:45 AM
If you don't have the gift of the Holy Ghost you do not belong to God.
Where do you get such stuff? what a bout the blood?
If you do not have the blood applied to you heart,that is when you do not
belong to God.
You can not have the Holy Ghost if the blood isn't applied, or any other
gift of God.
A Son is given,but you can't have the Son if his blood isn't applied.

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 Message 61 of 71 in Discussion 
From: tom doleySent: 10/10/2002 1:56 AM
You do not have to be able to speak in tongues to have the Holy Ghost,
tongues is just a gift of the Holy Ghost, and is not the Holy Ghost.
Here is evidence that you have received the Holy Ghost, is stammering
lips, other tongues, fruit of the spirit.

Gal 5 22 to 24, Isa 28; 11and 12 1 cor 14; 21 Acts 2: 4 Acts 10: 46
and 47 Acts 19:6
Other tongues is not an unknown tongue.



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From: tom doleySent: 10/10/2002 1:59 AM
You had better read that again,for you are wrong as usual.
That horse had only one rider.



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 Message 63 of 71 in Discussion 
From: tom doleySent: 10/10/2002 2:06 AM
Joie the only thing that I can see that you have is a lying spirit.
God has a church here and you can not by pass that church. You can not climb
up some other way, you have to go through the church for it is the gate way
to heaven.
The only thing that God will give you out side the church is an erred
spirit.

You have to be holy to go where God is. You'll never see God.


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 Message 64 of 71 in Discussion 
From: tom doleySent: 10/10/2002 2:07 AM

If it is coming from you and Isaiah it is not being taught right.


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 Message 65 of 71 in Discussion 
From: joieSent: 10/1/2003 7:24 PM
Read some of these answers.  They are 'eye openers'.  Tom can rant and rave against us all the time. call us lyers. and all kind of evil, yet no one seems to even see that.
 
What spirit are you really of?  He says everything I ever taught is LIES.  Yet all my messages are FULL OF PERFECTLY QUOTED WORD OF GOD.
 
Is that what all of you belive?  If so, then all these people who cannot prove a thing they say with the Written word are speaking truth, ( in your mind) and I teach lies, backed up with Scripture from Gen. to Rev.
 
Yet I am hated above all others.
 
But know what?  That is what Jesus said would be to the true followers of Jesus and the true Word.
 
Jo, 
 
Tom told me here that the church is the only way to Heaven.  My Book tells me Jesus is the only way.
so who is telling lies?

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 Message 66 of 71 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSearERICSent: 10/1/2003 9:08 PM
Hey Jo;
I want you to know I do not hate you. For what? I'm under the impression we came together to Know the Greatest Lover of all. I may not be as smart as others, yet I know you can't expect forgiveness, unless you have forgiven, I bet the whole universe will support me on that!   When you feel unloved, remember Uncle Eric LOVES YOU!  I have a lot of Love to Share!  I don't belong to a church or have a religion, just plenty love!
 
Peace!
Eric


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 Message 67 of 71 in Discussion 
From: joieSent: 10/2/2003 6:07 AM
Thank you with all my heart, Uncle Eric.  And thank you for your love.  I love you too.
 
I do not really mean that everyone hates me.  I just get hurt sometimes at all this unjust warring with me and say it that way; not really meaning to let it be ALL INCLUSIVE.
 
I also do not have a religion or 'church'.  My God is my religion and my church and my life.  my love.
 
Yes all would agree with you on this.  Unless you forgive from the heart every tresspass again you, God will not forgive your sins.
 
Lots of people think that when we rebuke to correct, it is a lack of love or forgiveness.  If so then none of the apostles had it right.  Neither did Jesus.  How bout that?
 
Love to you,
 
Jo

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 Message 68 of 71 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamelovejoy742Sent: 10/7/2006 9:03 PM
I read this and think it is quite a great subject.  I see some here who think the church is the way of salvation.  I see that as totaly error.  Only Jesus and his way of salvation can save us.  he did not tell us to go to church, to be saved.
 
this is a great subject,  does your church.
lovejoy

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 Message 69 of 71 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamerollingstone444Sent: 10/8/2006 5:58 PM
a person told me few days ago, bout their large Jesus-onlies church,.  said  many young people up on top, while all the adults down in below room.  the children up there playing ball while church goes on.
 
so how they going to be brought to God, up there playing>?  said the preaching reaches up there by speaker.  but children playing ball could not be listening and learning, now could they?
so how come this church is said to do any good?  why do they not want children to come in, sit down, and learn about God?

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 Message 70 of 71 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSearERICSent: 10/31/2006 5:28 PM
Reply # 69
 
They that were playing ball were blessed not to have to listen to the false teachings going on in the main room rollingstone.
 
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 Message 71 of 71 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 10/31/2006 11:12 PM
lol.  Eric that is sure a great way to look at it.  Never thought of that.
But I think it is also sending a wrong message to the young people.... =  that is that God is not important to them.
 
but you are right,  they would be better off not listening to these lies that man tells.
 
A good many years ago, when a certain man took over the little Apostlic Chruch where I had received the Holy ghost, and I saw an evil spirit in the man,  (could not tolorate this man), I made the statement that I would rather sit home and watch TV,  (which I hated)  than to have to listen to this evil man.  He made my spirit feel like it was crawling the walls.
 
God showed me,  told me,  that this man had come here to deceive this church. It happened.
 
Before long, the man was running with several women from the church. (he was married.)  but that church just loved him to death.
 
I say they know not God.

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