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(1 recommendation so far) Message 1 of 27 in Discussion 
From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 6/7/2002 3:02 AM
 

 
 
Isaiah:42:001

Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

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042:002 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.
042:003

A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.

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042:004

He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.

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042:005

Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

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042:006

I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

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042:007

To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

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042:008

I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

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042:009

Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.

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042:010

Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof.

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042:011

Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice, the villages that Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rock sing, let them shout from the top of the mountains.

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042:012 Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands.
042:013

The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies.

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042:014 I have long time holden my peace; I have been still, and refrained myself: now will I cry like a travailing woman; I will destroy and devour at once.
042:015

I will make waste mountains and hills, and dry up all their herbs; and I will make the rivers islands, and I will dry up the pools.

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042:016

And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.

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042:017 They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye are our gods.
042:018

Hear, ye deaf; and look, ye blind, that ye may see.

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042:019 Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent? who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the LORD's servant?
042:020

Seeing many things, but thou observest not; opening the ears, but he heareth not.

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042:021

The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

 

I have a question for you:  I would like for all of you who read this to study this message and try to discover the answer:

In verse 19---who is it speaking of?   Who is the blind and deaf servant of God?

How is He blind and deaf?  Please show the Scriptual answer.

I have something to tell you about this;  which I will do later; when I show the answer.

Happy hunting, everyone!!

Jo 

 

 


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From: joieSent: 6/8/2002 4:43 AM
Psalms: 39:001 I said, I will take heed to my ways, that I sin not with my tongue: I will keep my mouth with a bridle, while the wicked is before me.
039:002 I was dumb with silence, I held my peace, even from good; and my sorrow was stirred.
039:003 My heart was hot within me, while I was musing the fire burned: then spake I with my tongue,
039:004 LORD, make me to know mine end, and the measure of my days, what it is: that I may know how frail I am.
039:005 Behold, thou hast made my days as an handbreadth; and mine age is as nothing before thee: verily every man at his best state is altogether vanity. Selah.
039:006 Surely every man walketh in a vain shew: surely they are disquieted in vain: he heapeth up riches, and knoweth not who shall gather them.
039:007 And now, Lord, what wait I for? my hope is in thee.
039:008 Deliver me from all my transgressions: make me not the reproach of the foolish.
039:009 I was dumb, I opened not my mouth; because thou didst it.
039:010 Remove thy stroke away from me: I am consumed by the blow of thine hand.
039:011 When thou with rebukes dost correct man for iniquity, thou makest his beauty to consume away like a moth: surely every man is vanity. Selah.
039:012 Hear my prayer, O LORD, and give ear unto my cry; hold not thy peace at my tears: for I am a stranger with thee, and a sojourner, as all my fathers were.
039:013 O spare me, that I may recover strength, before I go hence, and be no more.
 

 I posted this chapter for it has several verses which go along with the above message.

Look at verse 9~~~I was dumb, I opened not my mouth; because thou didst it.

This chapter is one of Jesus' prayers to God in the Garden of Gethsemane.  There are many of His prayers recorded in this Book of Psalms;  and most people are unaware of this.

Also read verse 2~~ I was dumb with silence, I held my peace, even from good;  and my sorrow was stirred.

See, these two verses again comfirms that this is Jesus who is blind, deaf, and dumb.  Now, isn't is astonishing to find out that Jesus was blind, deaf, and dumb???

He held his peace because He already had the answer from God that it was time for Him to die.  He did not even try to get out of it.  He was through with his praying for deliverance.  He now accepted it that this is the will of God~~~ not my will, but thine be done~~he had said.

another thing I had known in my spirit for a long time; but did not know a Scripture to prove this,  is found in verse 11-

I had known in my spirit that when you see someone turn ugly and decrept looking for no seeming cause, that it was because of much sin in their life;  and God was doing this as a result.  I had even told this to some people; yet did not know of proof.

Then that night at the ladies house, as I read in Psalms, I found this verse and saw the proof.  Just read verse 11 and you will see this.

 

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From: joieSent: 6/8/2002 5:05 AM

 

 

 I want to bring in the part of Psalms 40~~~~  for in this is the resurrection of Jesus. I think it is only fitting to finish this message with His deliverance and victory,  don't you?

Verse one~~~  I waited patiently for the LORD;  and he inclined unto me, and heard my cry.

v 2~~ He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, and of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings.

v 3~~And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God:  many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the LORD.

 

Now, at first one may think this is in no way showing the resurrection;  but let's just examine it and see.

Verse one~~  shows Jesus as he is the three days and night in the heart of the earth = hell.  He is praying to God the whole time he is in Hell.  There are those prayers recorded in another Psalm.  I will try to find it and show you someday.  The reason people miss the truth and the beauty of Psalms is because they think it is about King David.  But, no!!!  It is all about Jesus.  You can learn many things about Jesus in the Psalms and the prophets than is not revealed in the New Testament.

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God heard those prayers he prayed while in hell.   This is said in verse one.

Verse two--- This shows the resurrection = when Jesus was brought up out of hell;  and up out of the human flesh = [the miry clay].  When His feet were set upon a rock = when God set Him at His own right hand.  He established Jesus' goings by giving Him rulership over the whole creation.

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Verse 3~~~~~~~ God put a new song in the mouth of Jesus.  This signifies His Heavenly ruling instead of His earthly ministry.  A new song in Scripture represents a new move of God.   Jesus now has a new message.  He is now a member of the God Kingdom = ONE  WITH  GOD.

If you believe Jesus was God while in the human flesh,  you will never see these glorious truths and mysteries and find these glorious secrets in the Word.  These are greater treasures than all the gold, silver or anything else in this world.

 

 

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From: MSN NicknameIsaiah·Sent: 3/14/2003 4:17 AM

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 Message 16 of 27 in Discussion 
From: joieSent: 3/15/2003 3:07 AM
Thank you Isaiah, for finding and sending this wonderful message back to the front page so our members may have access to this marvelous revelation.  I could not find it, for I only 'fish' in the General Sea.  I never think of 'fishing' on any of the other 'seas' we have.  So you found it in the 'question' sea.
 
I hope all of you will take the time to study this message from Isa. 42.  It will help you see the truth that Jesus was a human man on this earth  = God's  SERVANT.
 
can you see God as a blind, deaf, and dumb servant?  I sure cannot .  And if he were a servant, whose servant was he?  God is the highest being in existance; so how would he be anyone's servant?
 
It also explains some of the Scriptures others were thinking proved Jesus was saying he was the only God and would not give his glory to anyone else.  Nope.  That was God speaking to Jesus.
 


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 Message 18 of 27 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameIsaiah·Sent: 3/15/2003 3:40 AM
NO, joie we were on the same sea
but you toiled all night on the
wrong side of the boat. I knew it
so I cast me net on the right side
and I found. And look what we found.
A great mulitude of fishes in this
thread.

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 Message 19 of 27 in Discussion 
From: joieSent: 4/20/2003 3:12 AM
Let's just send it back around again.  Too much beauty here to just be 'lost' in that dark sea of the back pages.
 
Maybe some will study it this time.  Hope Apostolicminister will find and read this.
 
God bless you who are servants of the most high God and His Son Jesus Christ, the resurrected Son in the likeness and image of the invisible God.
 
Jo, His servant.

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 Message 20 of 27 in Discussion 
From: joieSent: 3/29/2004 1:37 PM
Thought some new people might find this interesting.  Let's take another look at they glorious mystery in God's Word.

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 Message 21 of 27 in Discussion 
From: joieSent: 5/2/2004 3:06 AM
There are some very good messages in this thread.  Let's see who has learned some of this.

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 Message 22 of 27 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSobeit33Sent: 7/28/2004 4:30 AM
Well, I still think this is a very beautiful thread.  Lets just send it back again.  Maybe some new members will find and enjoy this.  There is so much glory revealed in the Word.  So many totally miss these glorious secrets.  They do not even know when 'good' cometh.
 
Love ye,
Jo

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From: MSN Nickname·SpiritwalkerSent: 7/28/2004 9:49 PM
I would have said "Jesus"...mainly because of daily reading in Psalms, Isaiah, and New Testament too...  But as a person stated here recently...if you have not seen Jesus in almost every scripture...you are not getting the revelation.
Jesus, I believe, is in the Bible from the front to the back. When this was realized, a few things started to click.  Now, clicking is not roaring at this house, ....but when it does...oohwheeeee....I do get excited!  And sometimes the doubt comes and you will hear from me as to, what do you think? 
I think this was a very wonderful discussion.....sorry to be so long getting here.
Love,
"Spiritwalker"

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From: joieSent: 7/30/2004 3:31 AM
That is so true, Spiritwalker.  Revelation is the most exciting thing on earth to me.  When God speaks to me and shows me something new in the Word, [feeds me that wonderful 'bread' from Heaven] I get very exicted and happy.
 
I pray, Lord FEED me to day that daily bread from Heaven.  When He answers, it is marvelous.
 
So glad you finally got here.  Hope all is well with you and your health will return to you speedly.  Watch that diet!  That is the most important thing on earth to your body.  Eat only healthy foods.  Nourish your body and it will heal itself.
Nourish your soul and it will be saved eternally.
 
Love ye,
Jo

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From: joieSent: 6/2/2005 11:11 PM
Well, I did this message three years ago.  I found it today and think it is still wonderful news.
I wonder if I have this saved anywhere?  I wish to print it out, but it is very hard for me to save from these old messages, which I used to place on backgrounds and sections.  They just do not show up right on my word processor.
 
I do hope someone will study this and see the glory.
 
Seems there are almost no people left who can or will take truth.

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From: MSN NicknameYehudMarieSent: 8/3/2007 11:51 PM
 Oh Joie This is SOOO God....Because I just read this scripture Last week and I am not kidding you..I cam to that Part and I agree with Spiritwalker The whole book is about him...and anyways I got to that part where it says:

Isa 42:19 Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent? who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the LORD'S servant? Isa 42:20 Seeing many things, but thou observest not; opening the ears, but he heareth not. Isa 42:21 The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

And I thought to myself at that very moment but How can His servant (Jesus) Be Blind nor Deaf...? can you believe this? then I came here and find this...

How exciting...

Gods Blessings,

sis Jodi

 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 8/4/2007 12:12 AM
 Love this rose.  And I love this message.  It is very special to me.  It is one of the things I was totally awed over when I first ran across this.  I had no idea how Jesus, God's servant, could have been called deaf and blind.
 
After seeking for this answer a year or two, and praying for the answer,  God finally showed me the answer in Psalms.  That is the only  way of knowing we have the true revelation of the word.....it must be revealed by another Scripture.
 
It is just terrible how so many today sware by man-made interpretations, which have not one word of truth to them.
 
But in the end people will be without excuse for we all have the Word today to study and prove with.  If men decide to accept some other man's words instead of proving with Scripture, it will be their own doom.
 
Love ye and keep up this studying.  It will take you into the full glory and settle you where no one can shake you about.
 
Love ye,
Jo

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