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Special Verses : qualifications for a Bishop
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From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 11/26/2003 3:16 AM

1 Timothy 3

 1.  This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
 2.  A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
 3.  Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;


 4.  One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
 5.  (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
 6.  Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.


 7.  Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
 

 
   


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From: joieSent: 11/26/2003 3:18 AM

 1Tim. 1: 12.  And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;
 13.  Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.


 14.  And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
 15.  This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.


 16.  Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

 
   

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From: joieSent: 11/26/2003 3:24 AM

 1Tim. 1: 17.  Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.


 18.  This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare;


 19.  Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:
 20.  Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.


Notice here how Paul stated the names of men who had made shipwreck of their faith and he had delivered them unto Satan that they might learn not to blaspheme.

Hum>>>  Maybe we should do some of that here?  Some are sure blaspheming in here.  Maybe it is our obligation, spiritually to deliver them to Satan so they will learn not to blaspheme. 

Wonder how turning them over to Satan teaches them not to blaspheme?  Seems we need to learn this business of delivering them to Satan.

Also this shows Paul, a human being same as we, could judge this matter and also found it not against Christianity to name them and let people know who had made shipwreck of their faith.

I am quite sure most today have a false notion of true Christianity.  They think it must be sugar coated all the time no matter who does what.  shucks.  Nothing is further from the truth.

 
   

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From: joieSent: 11/26/2003 3:27 AM

 1 Tim. 2: 5.  For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
 6.  Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.


 7.  Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.


 8.  I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

 
   

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From: joieSent: 11/26/2003 3:35 AM

11Thes. 3: 7.  For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;
 8.  Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:
 9.  Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.


 10.  For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should eat.


 11.  For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.


 12.  Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.


 13.  But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.


 14.  And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. 

 

 

Now does this sound like most of your ideas of what true Christianity should be like?  I think not.  See that Paul was no sissy, petting and pampering people.  He laboured hard with his own hands and commanded others to do the same thing.

He said if they do not obey THIS EPISTLE, = the written words of ink on paper, what you are reading above here,  then have nothing to do with this person.

Shew.  Sure Paul would cause some disliking here among people today, right?

 

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