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| From: joie (Original Message) | Sent: 2/15/2002 4:53 PM | | John 14:2--In my Father's HOUSE are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. Now, where did Jesus go, in order to prepare us a 'mansion'? He went to calvary; he went into hell; he went into death; that is where he went in order that we might obtain this Heavenly 'mansion'. but what is that mansion? Why are there many of them there? Please allow me to show you what my HEAVENLY MANSION if: 11Cor. 5: 1--For we know that if our earthly HOUSE of this TABERNACLE were dissolved, we have a building of God, an HOUSE not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. v2--For in this (human body)--we groan, earnestly desiring to be CLOTHED UPON WITH OUR HOUSE which is from heaven: v3--If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked. v4--For we that are in THIS TABERNACLE (human body)- do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life. v5--Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit. v6--Therefore we are always confident, knowing that whilst we are at home in the BODY , we are absent from the Lord. 1Cor. 15:35--But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what BODY do they come? v38--But God giveth it a BODY as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own BODY. v40--There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. v42--So also is the resurrectin of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: v43--It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weaakness; it is raised in power: v44---It is sown a NATURAL BODY; it is raised a SPIRITUAL BODY. There is a NATURAL BODY, AND THERE IS A SPIRITUAL BODY. v49--And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. People, this thing of seeking or desiring a natural, fancy building of materials, is so carnal it is not connected to God or the Scriptures. To love the world and the things of the world is to be void of the love of the Father. Why would a celestial BODY need a frame 'house'??? with what??? Kitchens??? for what??? with bedrooms???? for what??? with a living room???? for what??? with bathrooms??? for what??? The Word of God is Spiritual. The carnal mind cannot receive the things of God; for to him it is foolishness. If you desire a worldy type 'mansion' you are strictly carnal and void of understanding of Spiritual matters. There is no such thing in Heaven. Our mansion is our glorified BODY. | | | | | |
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| From: joie | Sent: 3/5/2002 10:50 AM |  | | | Before this message goes on a back page, I would like to see someone else comment on this message. Are any of you out there concerned about what your 'mansion' really is? It is our reward --- so it should be very important to all of us. If you are thinking it is a physical man-made type structure, I think you should study this issue some. Jo | | | Reply
| | | From: joie | Sent: 4/28/2002 10:00 PM | | I would really like to place a question on the question board and ask this: what do you say our heavenly 'mansion' is? What would you say? Out of what you believed BEFORE you read this message ---- or --- did anyone read this???? See, I placed this first, wonderful revelation on this board way back in Feb. How many answered it? Not one! Why? Did you all already know this? Does anyone care? See, when I posted wonderful, revelation, which I know for a FACT is NOT taught in 'church', no one picked up on it? And there are those who say I mostly write about law? MY, MY. You just did not watch and read. I have typed miles and miles of wonderful words of truth revealed to me by God himself out of His precious Word; yet it goes unheeded. So, why should I sit and type many more miles of words? Would they be read? Was this read? Who knows? If anyone read it, they ignored it. How many knew or care what the heavenly mansion is or was? I saw on another community a post which had several different pitcures of fancy buildings and houses; they had depicted the largest, fanciest one to be the mansion of those who had done the most here. Then, the next fanciest one went to another group (they had it all figured out)-- then on down the line. The least ones went to those who did the least. Finally, they even had a pitcure of an 'outhouse'; which would be the 'mansion' of someone who just fiddled around here. [I do not attempt to do the thing exactly as they had it; just giving you an idea of the RANK CARNALITY out there of interpretating these spiritual things. Then they had a 'doll' house for those who did not try to grow in Christ [or something of that nature]. I told that community this message; know what they did? Put me down as some rank individual and petted and sugar-talked that person who had either ignorantly or deliberately mocked and poked evil jokes about something as glorious as Jesus dying and going into hell to be able to grant to us a glorified body like unto His Glorious Body; where we will never be sick; old, weak, know sorrow, death or anything else not good. Know what I did then? I quietly unjoined. Why Not? Where was one soul there interested in truth? They only wanted to pat and sugar everyone. I do not see that as true Christianity. Well??????????? Do any of you care? I know some of you do. Jo | | |
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| From: isaiah | Sent: 4/29/2002 7:28 AM | | In Rev.21 where John is giving the description of the Holy City in.21:22- "And I saw no temple therein; for the glory of Lord God Almighty and the Lamb is the light thereof."{ he was saying here that this mansion was not going to be no material temple as some say.To tell you what I think about what the mansion is. The word is found in only one place in the bible and it means to abode. Abobe means where one lives.So if God lives in us this is the mansion that he is reffering to. Not only that God also lives in his word and as we study his word we go from mansion to mansion. My thoughts what about others? | Reply
| | | From: Wanna | Sent: 6/2/2002 7:54 AM | | This is such a good message and something everyone should understand. That I thought I would bring it back to front page so all the new members would have a chance to read it. Wanna | | Reply
| | | From: joie | Sent: 7/30/2002 11:16 PM | | Once again new members might be interested in this. | | Reply
| | | There is a Holy City, new jerusalem. And it does comprise of buildings. The word even gives us its dimensions. It is in cubits. And that is around 1500 miles square. In Hebrews 8-10th chapters, the word speaks of tabernacles made without hands, and the tabernacles in the earth were built as a pattern of these. Jesus did say that in heaven there are many mansions, and he went to prepare a place for us. What do you think those folks who are in heaven now are doing. Dont you think they have their own places. Heaven isnt just a cloud people float around on playing a guitar. This earth is patterned after heaven' It is planetary in shape. It has a north, so it has to be round. Heaven is a real place. jesus is there now sitting at the right hand of the Father. These bodies are not what makes a man have the nature of satan. When Adam sinned, he died spiritually immediately. But his body didnt die for 930 years. He was clothed with the glory of God. But that glory was turned off. Instead of faith, he now had fear. Instead of love, hate now took over. he was dead spiritually, which is satans nature. Satan had been cast down to this natural, physical world. His spiritual knowledge was turned off. he cannot see into spiritual things. That is why speaking in tongues is so important. We speak mysteries to Him. He cant make it out and doesnt know how to counter what we pray. There is a literal city of God, with tabernacles and a throne of mercy. That is where the father sits. And Jesus sits right next to Him, as our advocate and mediator. And they sent the Holy Ghost to indwell our bodies as our comfortor. When we do what he wants us to do, He makes us comfortable with that decision. The Holy Ghost is here in power of attorney to see to it that the will and testament of Jesus, the Christ, is carried out for the heirs of salvation. | | Reply
| | | From: isaiah | Sent: 7/31/2002 6:26 AM | | Rev:21 22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 7/31/2002 12:27 PM | | Way...... These 'natural' buildings here are to house these 'natural' bodies we live in. But in the glorified world, we will NOT be in a 'natural' body; therefore we will have no need of a 'natural' building to house it in. That description of the Holy City is written in symbolic language as is the rest of the Word. Only when one reads it with a natural mind, will they see it as natural. If you read it with a spiritual mind, you will see it is spiritual.' God is not as you suppose 'sitting' down on a natural throne. Jesus is 'not' sitting down year round, there beside him as you suppose. That is the natural, physical way of thinking of it. this is spiritual; not natural. In some things you may see spiritual; but in this you are still thinking in terms of natural, physical things. It is not that way. Joie | | |
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| joie: What makes you think that spiritual; things arent solid. We know that God has streets, and doors.. Where did you ever see a door that wasnt attached to a house. You are spiritualizing everything into not being real. God isnt some kind of spiriual vapor. He is solid. Jesus after He was raised from the dead had the same body he was resurrected in. It was a flesh and bone body. Not bllod. His blood is in heaven where it cleansed the heavenly utensils of worship that had been defoled when Adam sinned. Jesus sat down and ate with the disciples. So His body would still eat. then He walked thru the door withoput opening it. It was operating on a higher, spiritual plane. I personally believe that spirit beings operate above the speed of light. That is why we cant see spirit beings. because they operate out of our range that these senses could detect. WE have angels all around us, They have been sent to minister for those who shall be heirs of deliverence. Just cause we cant see then doesnt make then unreal. If fact, spirit beings are more real than the physical. A spirit being created all matter. A spirit being can pass thru doors here in the natural. There they cant. Because those doors are made of spiritual substance. | Reply
| | | From: joie | Sent: 7/31/2002 11:25 PM | | Way..... Everyone must learn not to believe or teach something which is not written in the Word. Now if you can show a Scripture saying Heaven has doors which are spirit I will agree. But if it is just something someone has thought up, then it is not to be taught. Anyway, that is not what my message is about. It is showing what Jesus was speaking of when He said there are mansions in Heaven. Paul showed that this body we are in now is our 'earthly house'. Then He showed that our Heavenly 'house' is the glorified body. For both are spoken of as 'houses'. We live in this house ( our body). We will live in that spiritual house (the glorified body). Jesus was still here on earth at the time you are speaking of. We know not one thing of what life after this life is like. Nor do we know what it is like up there in the spirit world. But I can assure you, they do not need bath rooms; kitchens; and what would they need with bedrooms? Without death working in us, we would never get tired and sleep; nor would we have to sit down; so no need for living room stuff. So what else purpose would there be for a physical building to ????????? do what ???? in???? Joie | | Reply
| | | From: joie | Sent: 7/31/2002 11:28 PM | | His blood is in heaven where it cleansed the heavenly utensils of worship that had been defoled when Adam sinned. (Way....)
Way, I would like to know where this is found in the Word. I do not recall every having read this. This is new to me. I would like to find this and study it; so please give the reference where you found this. Thanks. Jo | | Reply
| | | From: vendor | Sent: 8/1/2002 6:55 AM | | To all those who are debating their heavenly home--why oh why such carrying on. Does not the word say ask for wisdom and He will give it freely--does that not cover what each one of us need to understand what is really important--ministering to those who need words of encouragement, and kindness, and most of all when so many are sayingWWJD--in this what would He say is right? You are given a promise--trust God to reveal to you just what you need. Are our interest so poor all we can think of is what we get out of all of this? Whether or not it is a big mansion or small--whether it is for us to see or just to dwell in it is there still the same. My God does not lie, so something and someone is there. We have allowed ourselves to only worry about getting out of here and not really seeking what we need to be doing. The word also says work out your own salvation with fear(reverence) and trembling. Now my question to you all can we not get on to showing others how Jesus would really react to these questions. He sat with those not of His kind. He chose to sit with them knowing He would be talked about. And in the Word it states we will be persecuted, laughed at, scorned, ridiculed, and just as Jesus, mocked. Nothing is impossible with God, and if anyone out there wonders whether or not tongues is for real--ask God to prove Himself in this matter--trust Him to show you truth. Now if you decide in yourself this is not God then do not batter others on their faith. For when you come against God's chosen ones, the ones He truly chooses, He will cause the altercations to come in His way. I know, for I have been there and seen people removed and people taken because they came against those of God. You may not understand, but, we as His children, need to constantly ask for that, because we are yet to be perfect as Jesus. And being perfected means to come to the point of maturity. So if all this is being mature as Jesus, Lord help us all. Because we have only went backwards where our forefathers were. One thing for sure, when we get there it will not matter. We are not going to just sit and dwell, there will be other things to do. How lazy we are in thinking that Jesus just went and stayed. Is He not here in spirit? I think all this that is coming out is just confusion which if we allow it will send others to other websites. May the truth in blood come and show us the reality of who and where we truly stand. All of you be blessed in our Lord and may the riches of His grace free us all from ourselves and our little tiny self-significance. God Bless, Dale | | |
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| From: joie | Sent: 8/1/2002 11:15 AM | | Dear Vendor, Then the way you are looking at this, God must have made a very serious MISTAKE when he sent TEACHERS OF THE WORD. For after all, what difference does any of it make? Huh? What matters if red is blue; or white is black; or pink is purple? See???? what difference does it all make; none of God's word is important except hoping one makes it to WHERE?????? No, dear friend, I am afraid Satan has sent you and many others a strong delusion. It is the voice of Satan telling God's people the Truth of the Word is not important; that we should all just play games till Jesus comes and gets us and takes us for a ride up into the wild blue yonder? That is the kind of mess this 'keeping quiet' has gotten church folks into believing. Now, if you do not desire to study with us and learn more, just do not try to get others into this myth that all can just automaticly come into truth. If this were true, there would be no differences of beliefs or confusion. I am telling you and all others, I love the truth; anyone who can help me see more of it I welcome them. God said study the Word; for in this you think you have eternal life. If you consider any part of this Word umimportant, you are calling God umimportant;; He is the Word. God showed me last night a message I will try to get typed up soon. He showed me that it is Satan telling God's people not to rebuke; not to debate the Word; not to try to show others truth; not to discuss these things; not to exhort. Know why? Because the Word says to do all these things. Jesus said, If thy brother trespass against you, take heed to yourselves to rebuke him. If He repent, forgive. Brother, Jesus said -- take heed to your selves to do this rebuking; why? so he can get straightened out. Those who say it is umimportant; keep quiet; talk bout the birds and flowers; talk about cooking; eating; drinking; these are deceived and workers of Satan. If you do not desire to know what our Heavenly Mansion is, don't try to cast condemantion on those of us who consider it important enough to discuss. I have looked at many other boards; know what most of them are doing? Just what you advocate--- talking about nothing---- playing games---- I am a member of one which puts dozens of one sentence messages each day on just to try to stay on the front page of the communities list. What good are they doing????????? None. It is that spirit of the babylon church enterested only in NUMBERS. Where did God say this? If we joke, let atheists come in and lie on God, tell poems, tell stories, etc. Sure we would get thousands of members; same as some others and churches; but what good would it do? None. I am sorry so many people have taken up this attitude that God's word is umimportant. Now before I close, I want to ask you one question ------- WHY ARE YOU DOING COMPUTER COMMUNITIES IF YOU HAVE THIS ATTITUDE???????? WHAT DO YOU WANT OUT OF IT??? WHAT SHOULD BE OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT????? Like some I have been on: 1... How are you today? 2..... I went to see grandma today. 3...... I saw a good movie today. 4.......my daughter gets married tomorrow. 5....... we went swiming last night. 6....... here is a good poem etc. etc. See what I mean. I ask again: WHAT GOOD ARE THEY DOING????????????? Jo, In His word to stay. | |
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| joie: You are right on. Learning about our home with God is important. Having it so real on the inside id very important. Jesus prayed, " let your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. " How are we to know what it is like in heaven and what His will is there if we never study what goes on there. because we can take what we learn about the sweet by-and by and use what we learn there here in the rotten here and now. That is how I became so adamant about healing. I never see any sick folks in heaven, or poor folks. And if His will is to be done here as it is in heaven, then there should be no broke or sick Christians here on the earth. We are in this worl;d, but we should not live according to this worlds dictates. heavens dictates are for us. I heard a Christian many years ago say, " I will tell you one thing, when we get to heaven we will have authority over the devil". . I thought, " What are you going to do with it, he wont be there." Here is when we need to excercise .Lordship over the devil. Jesus is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. We are the Kings and Lords He is over. He wasnt talking about the king of Emgland or soneone like that. We have Lordship over satan and all the kingdom of darkness and fear. We have dominiion over all the works of Gods hands. The only thing we will never have domionion over is one another. We are to serve one another. Let the greatest among us be servant to all. | Reply
| | | From: joie | Sent: 8/1/2002 5:42 PM | | Good thoughts coming from both Spiritwalker and Way. Look these things are spiritually discerned. I know it takes time to get to this. But you will. We all will ( all God's true people). The entire Book is written in a secret code language. It is not English. But you must let the Scripture teach you the code. For instance, a 'lamb' is not a four-legged creature, now is it? Wheat is not grain out in the farmer's field, now is it? Simple ones. Now move on: rain is not water coming down in our yard; snow is not frozen water; hail , same; fire' same; tree = a kingdom; same for a river; a beast; horn = a power or king; mountain = a nation. Get it? Now, so a seat = something? right? seated = something right? These things are explained in the Word; we do not guess at the meaning. spots = unclean ones. clouds = hosts of people or angels. sea = masses of unsaved people; waters = many nations of peoples. right? Then street = holy truth. seat = a place of authority. right hand = one doing another one's affairs. His power. Throne = Heaven. Foot stool = earth. etc. Enough 'school' for today. lol Joie | | Reply
| | | way................ " You said those Doors are made of spiritual supstance."??? Can you dicribe some of this spiritual supstances.??? I dond thing you Can. Flesh and Blood will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Or will not come into the Kingdom of God. What is born of Flesh is Flesh,and what is Born of the Spirit is Spirit. Spiritual things are spiritual Discerned. And I will tell you were Joie is walking, and it would be very good for you to carefully red her message before you say somthing. " And an Highway shall be there and a way, and it shall be called. The Way of Holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those; the wayfaring men, through fools, shall not err therein. no Lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up theron, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shal walk there." Why did I say this.??? She has layed a Way out for us to walk on. read it John | | |
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| From: joie | Sent: 8/2/2002 12:16 AM | | John---- I do so much appreciate your good words to me from our Heavenly Father. This is very encouraging. I really need it too. You are a messanger from God. Way.......This post of yours is very far off true Scripture teaching. Please do not let this bother you that I said this; it is not personal; but spiritual; to help you. First, we are NOT a spirit being. That is the God kingdom. God is a spirit. God is not a man. Jesus was a man. He was made in all points like unto his brethern. He was made a little LOWER than the angels. The angels are spirits (Heb. 1) Read in Gen. God said Man became A LIVING SOUL. See, he did not say man became a spirit. Man is not spirit. Man is flesh and blood. Go back and re-read that Scripture you quoted: After the resurrection, Jesus said feel me and handle me; for A SPIRIT HATH NOT FLESH AND BONE AS YOU SEE ME HAVE. Now, do you not see that this is saying that even after the resurrection, Jesus still was NOT a spirit? He said a spirit does NOT HAVE FLESH AND BONE AS I DO . Can you not see that? Jesus was in a body of flesh and bone AFTER THE RESURRECTION; HE WAS NOT A SPIRIT. GOD IS A SPIRIT. The angels are SPIRITS. Man is not a spirit. Never will be. We will be in a heavenly BODY. Spirits are not bodies. I know the church world has never seen this; but it is the truth of the Word. The teaching that Jesus is God has thrown everything into error. Jesus is God's Son. He is our God; but only because God the Father said for us to worship His Son. God made Jesus to be God with the God kingdom. There is ONE GOD AND ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MEN --- THE MAN CHRIST JESUS. Believest thou this? Joie | |
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| From: isaiah | Sent: 8/2/2002 7:28 AM | | way, what are you saying that man ( we) was made a little lower than God? I cannot believe this statement that you have just made.Comparing man to God. I had to reread what you had stated twice to make sure that I was reading it right. Sure enough here is your statement- "In proverbs, where it says man is made a little lowwer than angels. That word for angels is EloHim, Almighty God. We are made a little lower than God. What it was reffering to was the man Jesus Christ when he came to this earth and to prove this let me show you with these scriptures.. Psalm 8
1 O LORD, our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth! who hast set thy glory above the heavens.
2 Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger.
3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;
4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:
7 All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field;
8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas.
9 O LORD our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth! This whole chapter is referring to the man Jesus Christ- He was the son of man while he was here on this earth,he did not become the son of God till after the ressurection. See in vs.9 where it said that he was our Lord.To show more of the same thing and to prove that it was the man Jesus let's go to- Hebrews 2 4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?
5 For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak. 6 But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man that thou visitest him?
7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: ( see who was set over the works of his hands- Jesus what Psalms had prophsied
8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. ( whose feet was all things put in subjection? It was Jesus feet just exactly like Psalms was saying. Go back and read it above.)
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.( once again we see the same thing that was said in the book of Psalms that it was Jesus that was crowned with glory and honor not this fleshly man (we) as you have stated. While Jesus was here on this earth he was lower than the angels, he was the son of man, now to show you when he went back to being the son of God.
Romans 1
4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: (See he was declared to be the Son OF God by the resurrection. Up until that time he was the son of man made a little lower than the angels.) Then- Philippians 2
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: ( this was after the resurrection that he was equal with with God, while he was here he was lower than the angels.) 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: ( see he did not come here as a son, he came as a servant)
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: ( once again go back to Psalms vs. 9 where it is saying about how excellant is thy name in all the earth.)
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. I pray that you see this and not for one minute think that we were made a little lower than the living God Almighty.
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| From: joie | Sent: 8/2/2002 10:53 PM | | Way, there is so much to tell you. It is not possible to explain all of this in one message. I am very tired tonight; so I will only say a few things. If you will bear with me, I will try to show you some great revelation about all of this. I have a message way back in the pages somewhere about the two creations. But I did not ever really go into much details about it even then. The community did not seem too interested in learning this; so I never persued it. But Gen. one is NOT the creation of the first man Adam of the dust of the ground. Gen. two is. Now if you will carefully compare those two chapters, you will find that they do not match each other in the least. They could not possibly be talking about the same thing. Gen. one is the END. God declared the END from the beginning. Gen. one is Jesus Christ, second Adam, created in the likeness and Image of God, AFTER HIS RESURRECTION. His wife is there with him at the very beginning. Then look at Gen. two. This man was made from the dust of the ground to be a servant. This is first man Adam. Just because Gen. one is spoken of first, does not mean it happened first. At the beginning of chapter two, it says this: There was NOT A MEN TO TILL THE GROUND. Now what does this mean? Gen one already has a man created there. Why does it say in chapter two there was not a man? Evey wonder about that. You say toooooooo much which is NOT Scriptual. Where in the word did it say Adam took of that fruit because Eve had done so and he did not want to lose her?????? Give me the verse for that> Know what ?????? It is not in the word; therefore it is a lie. It is made up doctrine. Sounds to me as if you have been listening to William Branham or some of his mixed-up followers. Or maybe you read that lying Josephus.?? Better get back to the true Word of God if you desire truth. Gen. one and Gen two are two different creations. Jo | |
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