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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 2/1/2008 2:29 AM

~ ~ The Deep ~ ~

I will try in the next few messages to show you something God has revealed to me. These kinds of things only can come from much study of the Word of God. It does not come to those who only glance at the word now and then. It takes diligent and ardent study. It takes years. It takes revelation from God. I cannot give this all to you in one message, so will only address parts of it as I can get to it.

The Word of God is not some shallow story about certain people’s lives. It is not Bible Stories, as most people think. That is all most people ever get from Scripture. Almost all preachers only tell the ‘obvious�?story, which is the most shallow depth of all to the Word of God. God’s word is ETERNAL. It is LIFE. There is absolutely no limit to the Word of God. It is INFINITE. Can you even guess at what this really means? It means that no matter how deep one gets into the Word, there is always much more. You cannot get to the bottom of it. You cannot get to the top of it. All you can do is keep digging and climbing and launching out into the DEEP. God’s Word is spiritual. It is not carnal. It may seem carnal to the carnal minded. But to the spiritual minded, it is spirit and it is life.

When you read about any one person in the Word, you will see that story about that person. That is only a starting place. It is not the real essence of the Word. God only USES those things to reveal something much deeper and spiritual of HIS THINGS. The things recorded in the Word about anyone is there only for the purpose of revealing secrets of God. Until you can see beyond the story of that person, and hear a much more profound language, telling you, from the very same words, a deep spiritual truth, you are only reading words, and not getting any understanding. You are not getting God’s Word. You are only reading a story. That is not the Scripture. Sure it uses Scripture, but it is not the message God is giving out.

Now you may not understand right now what I am trying to tell you. But keep reading and study the next messages and perhaps you will begin to understand. Then you will begin to get glory from the Word of God. When you can ’hear�?the true language of Scripture and get into its depth, you will rejoice and fall in love with the Word of God. Then you can FEED upon it and grow up into the measure of the statue of the fullness of Christ.

(Lord, please give me the words to say!) When I first began to see these things, I thought at times that it was just my imagination. But then God showed me something which proved that it was not that, but instead, a very deep way to understand Scripture. I would read about David. This is where it first started. I would be reading Psalm, and I could see clearly that it was speaking about Jesus, and not David. But then it would mention his many sins, and I would say, no, then it cannot be Jesus, for Jesus never sinned. This went on for a good bit of time. Then one day as I was saying that to myself, God said to me, It is Jesus because he had the sins of the whole world laid upon him. They were counted as His sins. Then I began to understand. I began to get knowledge of Jesus which I had never known before, and mostly which is not revealed in the NT.

I found many places in the prophets which were also teaching about Jesus. I could see where Jesus and God would be talking to each other. I could see where Israel and God were speaking to each other. Each time, it took me deeper into the Word of God. It gave me understanding which I had never heard anyone else say. I can only hope that some hungry sheep of God read this and gleam the glory which is here for you.

The Word of God is so precious to me that I can think of little else. I wear myself out trying to get as much of it as possible into print, so maybe others can benefit from my studies and labour. I am certainly not trying to do as so many others have done, to cause anyone to think I am setting up myself as your teacher. I am only trying to help you get into the Word of God for yourself. These mysteries which God has given to me will help any sincere person to get deeper into God’s Word, must quicker. If you do not feed on the Word of God, you will have NO LIFE.

I want to show you something here. Eze 40:2 In the visions of God brought he me into the land of Israel, and set me upon a very high mountain, by which was as the frame of a city on the south. Eze 40:3 And he brought me thither, and, behold, there was a man, whose appearance was like the appearance of brass, with a line of flax in his hand, and a measuring reed; and he stood in the gate. Eze 40:4 And the man said unto me, Son of man, behold with thine eyes, and hear with thine ears, and set thine heart upon all that I shall show thee; for to the intent that I might show them unto thee art thou brought hither: declare all that thou seest to the house of Israel.

This is how you get into the depth of God. In VISIONS God took this prophet to a high mountain. He went up HIGH. Then God brought him somewhere else. He said, Behold with thine eyes and hear with thine ears, and set your heart upon ALL THAT I SHOW YOU.

Now if you do not ever get to this place, you will never get into God’s mysteries. If you never set your heart upon them, if you never hear and see what God is saying, you will just die and be gone without LIFE. God was taking this prophet into the very deepest of the mysteries of God. But it is not just for Ezekiel. It is for you and me. But only if we do as God said here, will we ever get to the height, and the depth and the breadth of the things of God.

Eze 41:1 Afterward he brought me to the temple, and measured the posts, six cubits broad on the one side, and six cubits broad on the other side, which was the breadth of the tabernacle.

See, next God took him to another place and showed him the breadth of the tabernacle. God MEASURED.

Eze 42:1 Then he brought me forth into the utter court, the way toward the north: and he brought me into the chamber that was over against the separate place, and which was before the building toward the north.

Next, God took him into the utter court and brought him into the chamber against the SEPARATE place. (You must be separate from the world.)

Notice, after this: Eze 43:1 Afterward he brought me to the gate, even the gate that looketh toward the east: Eze 43:2 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east: and his voice was like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined with his glory.

See, again God took him to another place, where he saw the glory of God. His voice was like a noise of MANY WATERS. Same thing is in Revelation. This proves that God is speaking through MANY PEOPLE. The Waters is the people. So as we speak God’s Word, it is the voice of God. He was taking Ezekiel into deeper understanding each time. But the important thing to see is that God kept taking him on. He was not standing still. You must keep moving in God, if you make it. If He is not taking you into greater depths each day, you are not growing in God.

Eze 44:1 Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it was shut.

God showed him now that the outward, or carnal sanctuary was shut. God had taken him into something much greater than the outward sanctuary. You must get beyond this outer man, and physical building.

Now here is the main thing I wanted you to see here: Eze 47:1 Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house; and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for the forefront of the house stood toward the east, and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.

(As God was continuing to take this prophet into deeper and deeper things, he kept moving him into different parts of the temple of God. But here he has taken him again unto the door of the house. He sees waters coming from under the threshold of the house. This water is LIFE. It is the river of Life. His Words are spirit and they are life. These chapters in Ezekiel are very, very deep with mysteries of God.)

Eze 47:2 Then brought he me out of the way of the gate northward, and led me about the way without unto the utter gate by the way that looketh eastward; and, behold, there ran out waters on the right side.

(Notice again, He BROUGHT ME, then He LED me…see God was leading him all the way, continually taking him into deeper things or understanding. He kept moving, never standing still. This is the only way to make it.)

Eze 47:3 And when the man that had the line in his hand went forth eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the waters; the waters were to the ankles. (Now this is the main thing here, I want you to see. The man that had the line and was measuring everything, (which was Jesus, for he is the judge or the one who measures), he measured a first time, and these WATERS were to the ankles. See? He had gone into the depth of God that first measure…to the ankles. He was wading…still seeing stories in the Word! But you cannot make it standing here…must go on out into the depth. Stories will not do! David is not the answer!)

Eze 47:4 Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through the waters; the waters were to the knees. Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through; the waters were to the loins.

(He measured again, and HE BROUGHT ME…see? Jesus took him through the waters. He keeps moving us. If not, you will die. Must keep growing and learning and gaining faith…all that it takes. He measured the waters the second time, and they were to the knees. Now! He can see Jesus in all Scripture, not David. Has made great headway! But he is not finished yet. He now takes him through the waters one more time and measures again. This time the waters are to the loins. Now he can see Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel in Scripture. He can see people on the OTHER side of the river, not just on this side! Notice, it is always the SAME WATERS, THE SAME RIVER. It is not some other River. He is staying in the same River, only going deeper each time around. It is the very same WORDS, which reveal, stories, then Jesus, then Adam, Satan, Eve, Mother of all living, Cain, evil son, Abel, good son, keeping God‘s sheep, not animals. He now sees Judas in Scriptures all over the Word.)

Eze 47:5 Afterward he measured a thousand; and it was a river that I could not pass over: for the waters were risen, waters to swim in, a river that could not be passed over. (Notice, each time he measured, he measured a thousand. These are the DAYS of God, they are the teachers. Now for this last measure, it had risen and become a FULL RIVER, which could not be passed over. He now had the full understanding, as Paul had, which could not be rebuked. He now sees me in Scripture. He now sees you there. He now can read so many depths in the very same verses, that it is another world altogether. It is now waters to swim in.

Eze 47:6 And he said unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the brink of the river. Eze 47:7 Now when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the river were very many trees on the one side and on the other.

(Now God takes him back to the beginning place, the brink of the river. Now he can go back to Genesis and see things he never dreamed of being there before. Now he can see the truth of the beginning. Now he sees the tree of life on either side of the river. Now he sees many trees there, which all have LIFE. He is back at the beginning, but also where the end and the beginning meet, where mortal has been swallowed up with immortality, where the Holy Marriage has taken place. Now there are living TREES on either side of the river. We now see the holy children of Eve, which were before the flood. We now can see what happened to them.

But now they are all living in the Paradise of God again. This is the ultimate goal of being led of God, of being taken from one glory to another glory. Unless you grow from glory to glory, you will not ever see this River of Life and those trees of Life, bearing that eternal FRUIT. So do not limit the Word of God to stories about David, Abraham, Isaac, Ruth, or anyone else. There are depths written there, which only the Living God can unfold and reveal. But unless you keep searching, knocking, praying, searching, studying, and growing, you will never see it. Those trees of life will be there, that River of life will be there, and you will be hungry and thirsty and not be able to eat or drink, for you limit the Holy God.)

See the Word is this River. You must get deeper and deeper into it. It is a ladder which leads to the top, to the heaven of God. Jacob saw that ladder and angels ascending and descending upon it. Jesus saw those same ascending and descending angels. He also had to climb that ladder. He had made a very good start by age 12. He had a good understanding of the things of God then. But he did not stop. He saw heaven opened when he was baptized. He kept growing and growing until he knew he had to die on that cross. There was no other way. He knew it was the Word and will of God.

(After all, Jesus had read Psalm 22 and Isa. 53, and understood them!) He learned it from studying the Word. You too must climb that ladder. You must get on that first step. The angels are there to assist you. But you must take the next step yourself. Then you must take another one and another one. You must not stop. If you stop when the waters are only knee deep, you will not see that River and those Trees of Life. So do not stop. Do not limit God and his Word. Do not listen to those who claim that God is all alone and is so lonesome. Don’t believe their lies. Study the Word for yourself. Where did God say that?

Do not listen to those who claim that there is only 1 or 2 or 3 members to the God kingdom. It is lies of Satan. He is cheating you of the glory. He is cheating you of climbing that ladder. He is cheating you of going into the depths of the Eternal, innumerable God. Notice, that all those who believe these lies, never climb or swim. They remain babies, babbling the same old ‘who-done-it�?junk, all the days of their lives. They never get any true revelation. They never even get in ankle deep. They are unable to climb to that first stop. That ladder is much too high for them to even consider starting to climb! The proof is there, that they never advance. They always believe the very same thing year after year. I once went to a church and the pastor preached the very same thing for over twenty years. He never got one revelation in all that time. Why? He had not gotten into the water yet. He was playing in the devil’s play ground = false doctrine.

Well, I set out to teach the purchase tonight, but God put me to another subject altogether. But this one needs to precede the next one. It will be clearer if you see this one. I prayed and God gave me this. So here it is.

By: Jo Smith ~~ Jan. 31, 2008



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From: MSN NicknameTweety134Sent: 2/1/2008 2:48 AM
Very Good Message Freeborn,
I am still reading Psalms. I see Adam and Eve in all of it right now. Eve knew what Adam had become. Evil.  The first step for people is read the WORD.That means jsut like you said. Pick up that Bible and read. Daily. I take my Bible to work. I have a Bible on my computer. Read IT. If you don't understand something. Pray! Ask God for guidance. HE WILL LEAD YOU. READ THE WORD FOR YOURSELF.  Be Blessed.  Tweety

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 2/1/2008 4:06 AM
Dear Tweety,
 
That is the best advise anyone can receive.  Praise God for a child of God, like you, who loves and reads the Word of God.
 
When I started studying it, many years ago,  I could not even read Isaiah, because it seemed like a foreign language to me.  I would read about six chapters and quit, discouraged.  I said to God,  it is a foreign language...makes no sense at all....then an amazing thing happened.......God began to reveal it all to me for my present day.
 
Everything I read was shown to me for OUR day.  Then it was no longer foreign.  I then began to see every Scripture for OUR day.  It tells me what is today.
 
Then later, I began to see it for way back...then for the other side of the flood....now I believe it will go further back and forward.
 
Thank you for your good words and for helping get into this mystery.  Your faithful reading has paid off and will continue to pay off.
 
Good night...wish I had time to write the Purchase.   I need a laptop.  then I could write on the weekend.
 
Love,
Jo

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 2/1/2008 4:23 AM
I sat here, flossing my teeth, and reading this message again.  When I read that God brought him back to the brink of the river,  I saw that this is the RESURRECTION.

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From: MSN NicknameAxs2-381Sent: 2/1/2008 9:52 AM
The deep is uneplored territory, mysteries of God.
 

DEEP THINGS OF GOD

Luke 5: 1-8--005:001 And it came to pass, that, as the people pressed upon him to

hear the word of God, he stood by the lake of Gennesaret,

005:002 And saw two ships standing by the lake: but the fishermen

were gone out of them, and were washing their nets.

005:003 And he entered into one of the ships, which was Simon's, and prayed him that he would thrust out a little from the land. And he sat down, and taught the people out of the ship.

005:004 Now when he had left speaking, he said unto Simon, Launch out into the deep, and let down your nets for a draught.

005:005 And Simon answering said unto him, Master, we have toiled all the night, and have taken nothing: nevertheless at thy word I will let down the net.

005:006 And when they had this done, they enclosed a great multitude of fishes: and their net brake.

005:007 And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. And they came, and filled both the ships, so that they began to sink.

005:008 When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying, Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord. 005:009 For he was astonished, and all that were with him, at the draught of the fishes which they had taken

LET’S let down our net’s into the waters and get some of that latter day rain. There is a blessing waiting that we cannot contain way down in the deep waters. That is where God is pouring out that latter day rain.

There are people who are sick and afflicted, and they have let Satan put doubt in their minds that Jesus doesn’t heal anymore, there’s people that their bodies are tired and weak from the pain. We must remember that our weapons are not carnal but spiritual. We need to put on the whole armor of God because these are the last days and Satan in going to come in like a flood. He is going to do everything to get us and our children. When Satan comes after us we need to do as Paul did and shake that old serpent in the fire.

Launch Out In The Deep- As a young man there was a old mill lake where we lived. As a young man I would always go swimming there and I would go to the middle of that lake where it was the deepest and dive to the bottom and touch bottom and bring up a handful of mud to show people that I had been in the deepest part of the lake. I knew those waters like the back of my hand there was no part of that lake I didn’t know I knew where the deepest was I also knew the best fishing place in that lake because I was searching out things about that lake. I LAUNCH OUT IN THE DEEP.

I said all of that to say this we need to launch out in the deep and search out the deep things of God. We need revelation from God of these things,

JOHN 4:10-11

04:010 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.

004:011 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?

We have got our net and something to draw with so let’s try to use them, I assure you that the net want brake as Peter’s did and you want have to leave the bucket at the well as the woman did. We need to launch out in the deep

Let me tell you this there will be doubter’s that will tell us the deep things of God has got is not for us to-day that they were only for the apostles. The one’s that doubt don’t have understanding and don’t know realize the power of God Almighty. They are canal minded and they are just like the one’s who told me that I couldn’t touch the bottom of that lake but I had the mud in my hands to prove it. So you see we can have the deep things of God to-day.

Let�?go to Romans-8:4-9 -008:004 -That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

008:005 -For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

008:006 -For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

008:007 -Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

008:008 -So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

008:009 -But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his

1 Cor. 2:1-16-002:001 -And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.

002:002 -For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

002:003 -And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.

002:004- And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

002:005 -That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

002:006- Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

002:007 -But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

002:008 -Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

002:009 -But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

002:010 -But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

002:011 -For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

002:012 -Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

002:013 -Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

002:014 -But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

002:015 -But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

002:016 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ

Paul’s only determination was to know Jesus and him crucified .

1-Cor.-3:1-3-003:001- And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

003:002 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

003:003 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

Let me ask us this question are we like these Corinthians wanting only as Paul said to be feed with milk not desiring the meat which are the deep things of God? We need to launch out in the deep and be not as these were.

Paul said they were behaving like spiritual babies instead of mature believers. Some of us should be on the front line instead we are still in basic training. Paul said that this is a war and a battle that we are fighting. The only way for us to win is with the big weapons the deep things of God. Let’s LAUNCH OUT IN THE DEEP and get some mud in our hands to show the world what we have got the deep things of God. Let’s study to show ourselves approved a workman that be not ashamed.

1Cor. 2: 9~~~~~But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

002:010 -But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

002:011 -For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

002:012 -Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

002:013 -Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

002:014 -But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Jesus said the water which I give will be IN YOU a WELL of water, springing up into everlasting life. So, in order to search out the DEEP things of God, according to the above Scripture, one MUST have the SPIRIT of God, which is the HOLY GHOST. For it is the SPIRIT which is able to discern out the DEEP things of God.

So, if Jesus puts his words, or water into me, then the Spirit which He also put into me will be the anointing to teach me the DEEP things of God's Word.

So, then it is not I but the Spirit speaking in me. It is the Holy Ghost who is giving me these deep truths.

And this is why those still living 'under law' cannot get these deep things; for they have not received the Spirit, the Holy Ghost. May The Lord Bless Us With The Deep Things. Launch Out In The Deep.

 


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From: MSN NicknameAxs2-381Sent: 2/1/2008 9:59 AM
Very Good Message Freeborn, and it is so good to Tweety getting those revelations from the Lord Jesus.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 2/1/2008 4:13 PM
Thank you, Axs.  And that is a very good message you wrote.  I love it each time I read it.  I just read it again.  When we bring in Scripture after Scripture, fully explaining the truth, it is the 'proof', or the mud from the bottom, which proves God has taken us out into the deep.
 
When I read my message again, just now, I saw that the water was only ankel deep the first time the Lord took him out into it.  The River was only ankle deep.  At first I thought he was only going further and further out into the River.  But that was not the case.
 
Each time he measured another thousand, then the Water rose up higher.  See he said at the last measure, that the waters were RISEN.
 
Know what that shows.  At the time of the crossing, or harvest, the River overflows its banks.  It takes more as we grow unto the end of the way and are ready for the crossing.  We are then ready to go back to the starting place, or to be in the resurrection.
Then we will see those trees of life on EITHER side of the River.
 
There was darkness on the face of the deep, or the waters.  Why?  Because Adam, or Satan had control then.  He was teaching the world evil lies.  See how the church went into the dark ages, and the popes had full power, how they tortured and killed any who opposed them.
 
Well, that same spirit has gotten back into the hearts of the pastors of our day, as they think they have AUTHORITY to lord over God's people and tell them where they can go and can't go.
 
They are teaching the world lies again, so there is darkness on the face of the deep.  But to those who...
<NOBR>Isa 12:3</NOBR> Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.

Then, our darkness will be gone when we: 
<NOBR>Isa 58:10</NOBR> And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noon day:
<NOBR>Isa 58:11</NOBR> And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.

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