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General : Should Christians Wear Tattoos?
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From: MSN Nickname_MrWonder_  (Original Message)Sent: 11/21/2008 8:17 PM

Should Christians Wear Tattoos?

By Lynette Schaefer

It is clear that we are living in the end times, right before the return of our Lord Jesus Christ to rapture home His blood-bought bride, the Church. It is also clear that these are perilous times. (2Tim 3:1) The current trend that more and more Christians seem to be picking up is tattooing. There are even "Christian" tattoo shops opening up, and deceived Christians are flocking to them more and more. They justify this activity by saying they are "tattooing for Jesus" and it’s fun to sport their new, colorful images or statements. Therefore, tattooing is no more an activity that the Bible expressly forbids, but it’s become the latest, cool, fun thing to do; and tattooing is popularly regarded as simply "body art". Well, let’s explore what tattooing really is and what God has to say about it.

1. The Mark of Blood. The tattooing procedure involves cutting the flesh with a sharp needle or instrument in order to carve out or make designs. The result is something called "blood-letting". Blood-letting has both occultic and demonic origins as it is considered a power source that is supernaturally unleashed. Many pro-tattoo sources describe tattooing as having a magical, occultic connection with blood and blood-letting as being normal. Several pro-tattoo historians indicate the connection with scarification and blood-letting associated with religious practices. Another source indicates "the importance of licking the blood that was released during tattoo operations" (Steve Gilbert, "Tattoo History: A Source Book", pg. 181). We read in 1Kings 18:25-28 the account of the prophets of Baal who met with Elijah to find out who was the true God. These were satanists who were attempting to unleash supernatural power by cutting themselves (vs. 28). In the New Testament, there was a man named Legion who was possessed by demons in Mark 5:1-9 who went about cutting himself with stones. (vs. 5) Leviticus 19:28 says "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD." (emphasis mine)

2. The Cup of Devils. Historically, the origin of the tattoo is associated with paganism, demonism, Baal worship, shamanism, mysticism, heathenism, cannibalism and many other pagan beliefs. The tattoo has NEVER been connected with Bible believing Christians. But today in the 21st century, the trends are reverting from paganism practices to include the modern Christian and the new "Christian" tattoo shop. Satan is the god of this world and his agenda is to deceive many Christians, especially in the last days. But the fact remains that the tattoo has its roots in beliefs and practices that are demonic and pagan. Many pro-tattoo books indicate that tattooing is a magical rite and the tattooist is respected as a priest or shaman; it is connected to a religious ceremony and performed by priests or priestesses; it is intended to put the human soul in harmony with supernatural forces; at other times dancing accompanies the tattooing ritual to exorcise demons. In other words, it is connected with the spirit world and a tattoo is really much more than simply a body decoration. Today’s popular tattooing craze is "tribal tattoos", which are pure paganism. These designs bear serious symbolic mystical and occult meanings. They are strongly connected with channels into spiritual and demonic possession. Many pro-tattoo artists and historians can attest to this by saying things like, "tattoos have a power and magic all their own", "there is in addition to the opening of numerous inlets for evil to enter", "allowing his clients�?demons to help guide the needle". Ronald Scutt, in his exhaustive book, Art, Sex and Symbol, covers a lot about the history and culture of tattoos. He documents that most of the time tattoos are associated with spiritual, religious and mystical purposes; linking it to mystical significance, sun-worship, serpent worship, and the sun-god Baal. Author Steve Gilbert, of Tattoo History: A Source Book, p. 99, records, "The Spaniards, who had never heard of tattooing, recognized it at once as the work of Satan." Yet today’s gullible Christians are out there in droves "marking themselves for Jesus"! Pagan tattooing is not just from the dark ages: many body artists perform ritual tattoos today as the quotes from tattoo authors above bear witness. Some will burn incense or light candles. 1Cor.10:21says, "Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils."

3. The Mark of Death. Lev.19:28 says, "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD." Yet DEATH is the number one theme of tattoos! References from tattoo books again reveal this as a fact: "Death and darkness have always been a classic tattoo theme �?skulls, snakes, demons" (The Body Art Book, pg. 56); Henry Ferguson in The Art of the Tattoo, states "probably the most popular tattooed image of today, the all-pervasive grinning skull!"; "Skulls imprinted on skin abound, and depictions of the Grim Reaper are commonly seen"; "Possibly, at the same time, to wear a death’s figure on one’s body may be an invocation of whatever indefinable forces of nature�?in an attempt to protect the wearer from such a fate". Tattoo shops mostly display morbid scenes of death, demons, serpents, and hell. Grim reapers, flaming skulls, snakes crawling through skulls, demons, Satan, pornography, blasphemy, naked flames of hell �?every satanic scene of hell is glorified. Who really is the Master Tattooist? Satan, of course! (Rev. 6:8; Heb. 2:14). He is the author of Death; and the representative of Hell (Rev. 6:8; Matt. 25:41); also of the Serpent (Gen. 3:1; Rev. 12:9; Rev. 20:1-2); whereas Jesus is Life (John 1:3; John 6:48; John 11:25, John 14:6; Acts 3:15; Rom. 6:23; 1John 1:1-2; 1John 5:12).

Many tattoo artists embody satanic symbols of death and hell while they display demonic scenes in their shops, calling it "art". They are often people who demonstrate their allegiance to Satan with vile and filthy depictions of the underworld.

4. The Mark of Rebellion. The Bible condemns all rebellion throughout its pages and declares that rebellion is as bad as witchcraft. (1Sam.15:23) It is clear that the tattoo has always been an indication of a spirit of rebellion and deviancy on its wearers. All the tattoo books make comments about tattooing being rebellious. In addition, the tattoo is considered a mark of disgrace or reproach by the same tattoo books. Throughout history, the tattoo was used to mark the criminal, adulterers, traitors, deserters, the deviant and outcast. Thirdly, it has been the mark of the sideshow freak throughout history. Also, it is the mark of indecency. They were associated with barbarians in barbaric, immoral Greece and Rome<. One tattoo book, "Art, Sex and Symbol", 1974, by Ronald Scutt, pg. 179, says "In a society that considers nudity as dirty, indecent, and subversive or morality �?- it is not surprising that decorations to the body are allocated to the same category." The tattoo is also considered the mark of depravity by many tattoo books. Studies have been done that indicate a high percentage of deviant behaviors and troubled persons that were tattooed. Studies have also been done that link tattoos to homosexuality, lesbianism, and gross sexual perversion. Statements made in many of the tattoo books bear this out. Recent studies on today’s tattooed young people indicate 1) they are nearly four times more likely to engage in sexual intercourse; 2) Over two times more likely to experience alcohol related problems; 3) Nearly two times more likely to use illegal drugs; 4) Over two times more likely to express violent behavior; and 5) Over two times more likely to drop out of high school.

What about Jesus? Wasn’t He a rebel? NO WAY! To the contrary: Jesus was 100 percent OBEDIENT unto death �?even the death of the Cross! (Phil. 2:8) In the Garden of Gethsemane, He prayed, "not my will, but thine, be done." (Luke 22:42-44) If there was the slightest chance that Jesus was a rebel, then He would have sinned against God, and we would all be lost!

5. Tattoo’s Deadly Little Secret. It is a well-known fact that tattooing runs a risk of acquiring any number of deadly diseases, including Hepatitis C and AIDS. The reason is because the needle that is used to tattoo punctures the skin 3,000 times a minute. In an hour, that would be 180,000 times that puncture wounds provide a potential path to a deadly disease. Not only that, but it is also well documented that tattoo shops are not regulated by the government to uphold medical standards. Also, many tattoo artists do not inform their clients of possible infection from the needle or the ink. The Mayo Clinic sounds a warning about commercial tattooing: "Few states have hygienic regulations to ensure safe tattooing practices in commercial tattoo parlors, and even fewer monitor and enforce standards". (Body Piercing and Tattoos: More than Skin Deep, Mayo Clinic, www.mayoclinic.com). Tattoos can cause many chronic skin disorders such as sarcoid, keloid scarring, allergic dermatitis, photosensitivity reactions, psoriasis, and tumors. Finally, the Bible gives a real warning about this sort of procedure (Psm.38:5-8)

6. Tattoos and the Bible. We know already what Lev. 19:28 says. But people use that to say, "But that’s in the OLD Testament! What about the New?" Well, do you know that Lev. 19:29 says not to prostitute your daughter; yet it says nothing in the New Testament about that, making it okay to prostitute your child? I think not! These moral laws are timeless and are as applicable now as then. Lev.19:28 indicates that we are to not print ANY marks on us. Period. Lev. 19:26-28 is a condemnation of assorted pagan, witchcraft and heathen practices, of which tattooing is clearly one of them. Every commentary written on Lev. 19:28 says that tattooing comes from pagan origins. Isaiah 44:5 & Ezekiel 9:4 indicates "he will write with his hand to the Lord." Some go as far as to say that Jesus Christ is tattooed! (Rev. 19:16) If that is literally true, then Jesus is a sinner who disobeyed Lev. 19:28. Finally, because our bodies are the Temple of the Living God (1Cor.6:19-20), God wants them pure for His glory. Defiling the temple of God, him will God destroy (1Cor. 3:16-17). God meant what He said! (Num. 23:19; Gal. 6:7-8) 2Cor.6:16 says, in part, "And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For ye are the temple of the living God."

7. Tattoo: The Mark of Regret. Those who get tattoos while in a backslidden state will forever have to live with them. Even those who flock to get laser surgery in an attempt to remove the tattoos will have to go through a lot of expensive and painful procedures, and yet the tattoo will never be totally removed and will just look ugly. Many who are foolish enough to get tattoos later regret them and hate looking at them. There are many consequences of getting "marked": spiritual, health, social. Once a person has that mark put on them, they are then in a different category: one of the gang, cool, and spiritually defiled against God who shakes their fist at His law. Not to mention that after getting the tattoo, some serious medical problems could start to germinate. Getting a tattoo can also damage relationships with friends, family, teachers or employers. According to Bonnie B. Graves, Tattooing and Body Piercing, p. 43, many jobs are not available to those who have visible body art. So, then, is getting a tattoo really worth all the consequences?

If you have tattoos and are still unconvinced that any of the above applies to you, then consider this: tattooing, in addition to being disobedient, is idolatrous because it displays an image. If someone is "tattooing for Jesus" and thinks that’s acceptable, it isn’t because the "Jesus" (or any symbol) you are marking yourself with is an image. God says very clearly and explicitly that we are to have no other gods before Him, and that it is He and He alone who is supreme. (Ex. 20:3; Is. 45:5)

The Bible expressly tells us to keep ourselves unspotted from the world (Jas.1:27, to abstain from the appearance of evil (1Thess.5:22), and that friendship with the world is enmity with God. (Jas. 4:4). We are instructed to come out from among them and be separate from the world. (2Cor.6:17) Christians therefore have the responsibility to obey God’s commands and abstain from worldly associations, pastimes, or habits; not just out of duty but because we love God and have a living relationship with Him. (John 14:15). Please beware that ALL tattooing is wrong, not just the graphic stuff described above. It all has the same origin in paganism and is expressly commanded by the Lord that we are to avoid this practice at all costs!

If you received tattoos before conversion to Christ, then you have already been forgiven for that. On the other hand, if you have received tattoos after giving your life to Christ, you need to repent of this sin and not repeat it, under any circumstances, because it is considered abominable.

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From: karkarSent: 11/21/2008 11:26 PM
I would never have a tattoo because I hate needles and I do believe it is marking your body.  But, I wonder if you agree with this article do you consider pierced ears to be "blood-letting"? 
 
I don't necessarily agree with the pagan origin thing because it is a similar argument used to tell me I shouldn't celebrate Christmas and have a tree, etc.  I think it has to do with the intent of your heart.  I suppose another question would be "how much freedom do we have in Christ?"

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From: MSN NicknameSEB1625Sent: 11/22/2008 1:26 PM
Brother,
 Absolutely not. We went around  and around with this on another board and the ignorance of some folks that are suppose to be Christian but approve of such a thing is beyond belief.
  It appears to be mostly from the younger crowd who either aren't being taught right and don't have   good Christian role models to follow after or they are being taught right but just refuse to listen.
I personally believe it is because so many churches are so incredibly liberal and so unsanctified.
Brother Steve

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From: †SËÎßÕ²Øس�?/A>Sent: 11/22/2008 7:55 PM
I have a tattoo.  I have a pierced ear.
 
Jesus died for me too.

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From: MSN Nickname_MrWonder_Sent: 11/22/2008 10:12 PM
Pierced ears don't particularly bother me, as long as they aren't mine.
 
Women have done it so long and the piercing is small and covered by the ear stud (earring) so it can't be seen, but now men and women both are putting huge round things inside the earlobe itself and making ear have a hole big enough to stick your thumb through.  I guess liberty leads to excess, doesn't it?
 
As for tattoos, I know many people who got them BC (Before Christ).  I don't know any Christians who have gotten them after salvation, except one teen girl - at least I believe her to be saved - and foolish.  It's on her wrist where you can't help but see it.
 
The ugliest tatoos on earth to me, are the ones on women's legs.  Men do look at at woman's legs, because they are exposed, historically, and they are attractive to a man.  The tattoos on many womens legs never fail to make me think the woman has gotten some dirt smudged on her, then I realize what it is, and ladies - it is ugly.
 
Now the best I can tell, teens hate beauty and love ugly, but I see them on old women too.   And they look terrible.
 
My oldest son has a tattoo, too.  Got it in the Navy, and even he thinks he was an idiot to get it, but that's what Navy boys do, right?  He's stuck with it.

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From: MSN Nickname_MrWonder_Sent: 11/22/2008 10:17 PM
Jesus died for you?  What do you mean?  Jesus died for every human, didn't He? 
 
The title of the thread is "Should Christians Wear Tattoos" and the lady does a good job answering it.  Does "Jesus died for me" mean somehow that Christians should wear tattoos?  Or does it mean that Jesus died for us because we err, and sin, and need a Saviour?
 
The way you phrased it, in answer to the thread, appears as though you think tattoos and earrings on men should be acceptable simply because Jesus died for us.  I can name lots of people whom Jesus died for who engage in lots of behaviors that Jesus did not die to endorse.
 
If I misunderstand you, please correct me, but it seems an attempt at justification of questionable emulation of worldly behavior, and that is very uncharacteristic of you. 

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From: †SËÎßÕ²Øس�?/A>Sent: 11/22/2008 11:11 PM
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From: †SËÎßÕ²Øس�?/FONT> Sent: 11/22/2008 6:05 PM
MrWonder-
 
Jesus died for you?  What do you mean?  Jesus died for every human, didn't He?  <MrW>
 
That is basically why I put the word 'too' in my post.
 
I got my tattoo BC and I got my ear pierced BC.  It has been bandied about that those people with tattoos and/or piercings are not Christian - you and I both know that is not the truth.
 
Personally, I cannot fathom why anyone would want to mark up the majority of their body with art - I believe it shows a lack of something in their life, and I believe that lack would be filled with Christ.  I am unwilling to make the blanket statements that a lot of people make.
 
I have high hopes that you know my meaning here.

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From: †SËÎßÕ²Øس�?/FONT> Sent: 11/22/2008 6:10 PM
The title of the thread is indeed:
 
"Should Christians were tattoos"
 
The lady does a good job answering a question of whether or not christians should GET tattoos.  She also ties up the loose end with her last paragraph.  My contention is not with her, and more than likely with no one that has responded to this post, unless they feel that these marks somehow disinclude the wearer from salvation.
 
And please don't tell me that no one could believe that, because we see it every day from all different forms of legalism.
 
According to the stricterst of legalists, I suppose I should get my innocuous little tattoo removed, and somehow manage to get the tiny little hole in my ear (that has not had anything in it for 16 years) sewn shut...
 
Have I managed to muddy the water, or to make myself clear?
 

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From: MSN NicknameSEB1625Sent: 11/23/2008 8:16 PM
Hi Chip,
 Of course Jesus dies for you, and me and everyone but that has nothing to do with Christinas wearing tattoos.
  If a b perosn had tattoos "before salvation" that is one thing but after salvation is quite another. In the ministry God gave me I see lots and lots of tattoos and many ask me what to do after they are saved about what to do and I say nothing except three things.
1. You can use them as a testimony as to where the LORD brought you from that type of lifestyle and unrighteous living.
2. If they are so embaressed about them then wear clothing to cover them up.
3. When asked if they should have them removed I say no unless God just so convicts you of them you just can't stand it for it costs a great deal to be done and most can't afford such a thing.
  So no Christians should not mark up their bodies or do anything to destroy the temple of the Holy Spirit.
  Have a great day, Brother Steve
P.S. I have to admit I am pretty surprized at your answer and especially the part about Jesus dies for me. Seems you may be approving of such things.

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From: MSN Nickname_MrWonder_Sent: 11/23/2008 8:35 PM
Yes, his answer seemed cryptic and hard to understand, but he's not approving; just saying that God's grace covers all our mistakes, and it does.

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From: MSN Nickname_MrWonder_Sent: 11/23/2008 9:36 PM
So much to say and so difficult to condense it down.
 
1.  We are the MTV and sound-bite generation.  Five paragraphs is too much to read so you won't read it if I don't keep it SHORT!
 
2.  We don't win the lost by being LIKE them.  We must be different from them and be LIKE CHRIST, for the appealing power of Christ is His power to CHANGE the human HEART on the inside.
 
3.  There are obvious sins in the Bible - 10 Commandments.  There are also sins that are NOT so obvious.  Since I was a child I have known smoking is a sin (this is an example so don't get excited).  When I became a Christian, I surrendered the smoking, the drunkenness, and the illicit drugs to Christ.  But EVERYBODY does not know that smoking is a sin along with those more obvious sins.  It took me some time, but I did realize that truth and for over 20 years I have accepted as genuine Christians those who smoke and I trust God will teach them Himself in time.
 
4.  I figure tattoos and piercings fall into that category.  Some people's life experiences and Bible knowledge is not thorough enough to realize we are not to disfigure our bodies.  I can accept them as Christians, even if their experiments on their bodies came after Christ, but I never tell them to "go for it".  I try to help them see it is out of God's will to mar the Temple of God.
 
5.  And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled - 1 Cor. 10.6.  "Revenge" here is "punish", like a court-martial.  A military person is subject to a higher law than civilians, and are tried by a different court (the Military Code of Justice).  They have a HIGHER standard.  You and I are in God's Army.  WE are subject to a HIGHER standard than the world.  See # 2 above.

Even if it was OK technically for men to do tattoos and earrings, we must serve the higher standard because it has a REP in the world and will give us a RAP.

6.  WE REPRESENT JESUS CHRIST TO A LOST WORLD.  We should be above reproach and our good must not be evil spoken of.  This alone is reason enough that we should not consume alcohol in public, nor smoke, nor use bad language, nor receive tattoos, nor pierce our Temples, for these are all things the pagans do and we are to represent Christ, which MAY MEAN even giving up some things that are not technically sins, for the sake of our Master's good name.

7.  If you had a baby, would you want your baby-sitter to carry your baby in her arms as she walked one inch from a thousand foot cliff with huge rocks at the bottom?  Or would you want your baby-sitter to walk a MILE AWAY from that dangerous cliff while carrying your precious baby?

8.  In light of 7, WHY do we want to walk as close to the cliff of sin that we can possibly walk and take the chance we won't fall over?  WHY don't we walk as far away from sin as possible and PLEASE THE HEART OF OUR FATHER?

9.  Now I'm finished, I think.  Whether you have a tattoo or not, piercings I not, or smoke or not, I love you in the Lord Jesus Christ and I trust you will mature in time as His Spirit and His Word works on you, and I do not reject you because you have made mistakes even if you think they are not mistakes.  GOD KNOWS I've made PLENTY of my own, but I regret them ALL.


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From: †SËÎßÕ²Øس�?/A>Sent: 11/23/2008 9:37 PM
Steve-
 
I beg to differ.  The article's title is not "Should Christians GET tattoos" it is "Should Christians WEAR tattoos"
 
I am a Christian.  I wear a tattoo.  The fact that I got the tattoo prior to my conversion is the part that I draw a line in the dirt with many people.
 
The author is careful to ssay that tattoos gotten prior to conversion are covered by Christ's blood.  We all agree on that.
 
But what of a new believer that comes from a different lifestyle than you or I?  What if that person goes out and gets a cross tattoo?  Is their salvation in question, or just their judgment?
 
Like I have repeated - I have been told that heaven is closed to me because of my tattoo, but thanks be to God that I don't still wear that earring...
 
Do you see what I am getting at?  Are we willing to wander into legalism to the point where we apparently are trying to bar the doors on those we disagree?
 
I know you, and I know MrW - I know you both embrace God's grace.  That was never my point.  My point is now and always has been that God loves each person where they happen to be.
 
Still muddy?

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From: MSN NicknameSEB1625Sent: 11/23/2008 10:17 PM
This was excellent Brother and well thought out.
I heard about a preacher once reply to some teenagers if it was ok to go to dances and he told them hoe come you always want to know how close you can get to hell without actually going there?
Brother Steve

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From: MSN NicknameSEB1625Sent: 11/23/2008 10:28 PM
But what of a new believer that comes from a different lifestyle than you or I? What if that person goes out and gets a cross tattoo? Is their salvation in question, or just their judgment?

No their salvation is not in question. It is our jobs as older in the LORD to teach them correctly.

Like I have repeated - I have been told that heaven is closed to me because of my tattoo, but thanks be to God that I don't still wear that earring...

That was a dumb thing to say. I personally have never told anyone such a thing and especially after salvation.

I hope you read my response to yoiur first reply closely. I preach and teach compassion to all the same way and I always in these types of things try to teach what God expects out of us after salvation for we are to look, act and speak differently. We are to be sanctified.
Yes I think we all are in agreement God always love us regardless of where we're at but after salvation there should always be a distinct difference in us and the world.
New converts are to handled quite a bit differently for they haven't had the time to gain the wisdom and knowledge we elders have obtained and everyone grows in grace at different speeds.
Anyway have agreat evening. It's about time for Sunday night service in about an hour or so from now 7:00 p.m. E.S.T.
Brother Steve

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From: MSN Nickname_MrWonder_Sent: 11/25/2008 12:44 PM
Amen, Brother Steve.

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