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 Message 29 of 39 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameDon__42  in response to Message 24Sent: 11/14/2008 5:04 AM
HisAlone,
 
I've learned over the years that any time a person uses "but" in a statement it reverses the first part of the sentence.
 
You and I do not agree on Thomas Jeffereson beliefs and I did read the material in the link you provided.
 
I remember a number of times in this community when the doctrine of the Trinity has come up and the Deity (Divinity) of Jesus. If my memory serves me correctly MrWonder you have taken the stand that the Trinity and the Deity of Christ coupled to His death for our sins and resurrection is the cornerstine of being a Christian.
 
Now you say the Thomas Jefferson was a Christian deist even though history and those things written about his beliefs plainly bring out Thomas Jefferson did not believe in the Deity of Christ or His resurrection or the Trinity. Here is a brief quote fromthe article posted for my reading:
 
Jefferson did not believe in the divinity of Jesus, but he had high esteem for Jesus' moral teachings, which he viewed as the "principles of a pure deism, and juster notions of the attributes of God, to reform [prior Jewish] moral doctrines to the standard of reason, justice & philanthropy, and to inculcate the belief of a future state."[36] Jefferson did not believe in miracles. He made his own condensed version of the Gospels, omitting Jesus' virgin birth, miracles, divinity, and resurrection, primarily leaving only Jesus' moral philosophy, of which he approved. This compilation was published after his death and became known as the Jefferson Bible."
 
The above disbeliefs seem to be to be of a person that believed Jesus to be a good moral man but not the Son of God. If I am correct, I am no confused in what I have concluded about Thomas Jefferson and his beliefs.
 
The Jefferson Bible is a interesting piece of work in and of itself.
 
Most folks today call the above beliefs of that of a good moral man.
 
If you choose to think I'm confused about what I have studied about Thomas Jefferson that is fine.
 
HisAlone, No I haven't answered your question in response #20 simply because I have no idea what it takes for you to accept anything that is written as proof that a statement in correct.
 
As for:

(1 Cor. 14:32 through 1 Cor. 14:33 (KJV) "32And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints."

I am of the opinion you have pulled this passage out of context in light of what the word confusion means in this context.

Don

 
 
 


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