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Hi, I am new to this group and want to introduce myself. My name is Mary Jeanne Mustain/Davenport Pettit. I started doing research into my family background about a year ago but ran into so much trouble that I gave it up for a while. Now I am starting again. I know so little about most of my family. My father was Andrew Loranzo Mustain. This is how I always knew him. Father of five and married to my mother a Davenport. My grandfather was William Harvey Mustain, I grew up knowing grandpa, but not my grandmother who is Dolly Dimple Kelly. The reason I joined this board was to try to get some answers to questions. From internet sources I have been lead to believe that grandpa Mustain was born 5 Jun 1988 in Tunas, Dallas, Missouri. I have at one point had a search done for any birth records and have been told that there are none for that area. So I sent for his orginial application for a social security number, of which I have received. The information on this form is as follows: Name: William Harvy Mustain Address: 400 W 6th Hutchinson, Kansas Business: unemployed Age: 48 Birthday: June 5 1988 (now here there is a line through the June and written above it is "6" Birth place: Buffalo Mo Father: Dow Mustain Mother: Marry Ann (Mustain crossed out) Lawson Male White Previously filled a card like this: yes, Dec ?, 1936 (cannot make out if this is 1 or 6) Date signed: 12-17-1936 Signed: WH Mustain Listed at the top is the SSN of 510-03-0817 So now I have Williams app saying he was not born in Tunas but in Buffalo. The date of birth might be one day off, but I question this as the 5 is not crossed off. So since the search did not find William in Dallas county, where do I go from here in trying to locate a birth record for him? I am curently awaiting a birth record for my father. I had not sent for one sooner as my mother stated she had one, but cannot now find it. Next: William Harvey's father is Lorenzo/Loranzo Dow Mustain born in New Braunfels, Comal, Texas, died in Tunas, Dallas, Missouri 10 Jul, 1941. His mother Mary Ann Lawson is said to have been born In Tunas, Dallas, Missouri on 23 Sept 1861. Does anyone have information on these names or advice for where I go from here? I have other family (maternal) that are also from Missouri but from records that I have they are mostly from McDonald county. Does anyone know if there is a board available for the research into McDonald county Missouri? Thanks in advance for any help someone can give me. Mary |
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Hi Mary,
First Welcome to
Dallas County email list. I have not been very active on the list for
awhile now but, I am still lurking ,and helping anyone I
can.
I can not help you much with
your surnames, however, I did want to post a couple links for you too get
help in McDonald county, and also wanted to mention you have your grandfathers
DOB as 1988 , and I am thinking you meant 1888, or you would be in trouble,
and not born yet..lol
Here is a couple links for
McDonald County, MO
This is a obit for Dorothy Mustain who has a
surviving husband Willie.Maybe that will help you some.
Good luck on your search...
Have a Great Day
Debbie Jackson
"You Don't Have To Support A War To Support Our
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Hi Deb, First thanks for the links. I am checking them out. Next, gee I read and read to make sure all that data was right and still made a mistake. Thanks for pointing it out. I need to start putting these messages down in a word processor and then letting them sit for a day till my head clears before posting them. I work in bookkeeping and after a full day of numbers they start to all look alike. I have been spending much time going though back posts and other sites looking for information, but am having little luck. I am also attempting to contact other relatives that might have information or leads for me. Thanks for the help. Mary Oh yes the Dorothy Mustain and husband Willie are not names I have run across but have made note of this information just in case they do become needed. |
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Hi Mary,
I hope those links help you. Oh and do not sweat the
small stuff about the wrong dates. I have found doing genealogy for the last 25
yrs. that there are so many dates wrong ,and names wrong you could not imagine.
I just wanted too make sure you saw it so you did not send off for information
with the wrong dates.
I wanted too tell you something else. Believe it, or not if you
just go too the google search device ,and put a name or county in the search you
will find a lot more information then you could imagine. That is how I found
what I sent you, and there was a lot more available. Good Luck on your search.
Let me know if I can ever be of help...
Have a Great Genealogy Day
Debbie Jackson
First thanks for the links. I am checking them out.
Mary
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Hi Deb, I have only been researching on and off for a couple of years, but I have learned about dates being wrong, names not the same, and lots of other mis-information, dates and places of births, deaths, marriages. It's a lot to wade through but so very interesting. I have found several cousins I didn't know I had and heard family stories that would curl anyone's hair if they didn't already have a perm. Some of it makes you glad that you didn't know some family and others make you so sorry you missed the opportunity to meet such wonderful people. Still even family stories are handed down person to person and subject to close examination. I have been trying to keep dates very straight so that I myself do not pass on misinformation. I have run across a few people who just will not believe the truth no matter what documents you have to prove it and so I am extremely careful most of the time. It's just that right now I have been working under extreme exhaustion and that causes me to make mistakes. I shall work to keep things straight as much as possible. I got interested in genealogy because of my mother. Her family has been researching family for years and has come up with very little; this is my Davenport/Roggers side of the family. She wanted me to check online for some information for her and at the same time I decided to check out my dad. I was amazed to have something come up when I typed just his name in a goggle search. I found a couple of sites that listed names of his sisters, he had no brothers and some of the names I knew and some I did not. I had to go looking to find out just who Mable Irene Mustain/Boyle was. I had known this women till her death only as Aunt Pinky. Then there was a Lillian Capitola Mustain who died at an early age, who was also an aunt. I had memories then of a mention of a sister of dads who died from measles at an early age. Now if that is correct I have yet to find out. One other thing that has peaked my interest is the family rumors. Up to the last couple of years I just let them slide and not paid much attention. Then my mother started talking about some that seems a bit outrageous and I could not just sit and say it wasn't so, as she believes them completely. Some one, somewhere said to someone who told someone and so it is true, because you have to believe that someone because you trust him or her. She, my mother, is upset with me most of the time as I do not just "believe", I have been told all my life that much of my family was from the "show" me state and I guess that is part of me. LOL I will not even mention rumors as they are probably in every family. I can say that I was able to show her that one is not possible because of research done but others out in Internet land. It was distressing to her but she listened with at least half an ear. I do thank you for the help you have provided. Each piece is a step towards finding the next piece of the puzzle. I have not done a goggle search in a while so your reminder is a good thing. You run through things so often that after a while a small reminder is very good. Thank you, MaryJeanne |
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Mary,
Sounds like your off too a good start. As far as the
google reminder I was amazed what you could find there glad I reminded you about
that. :0)
I know what you mean about stories. I have found out some
very interesting things. The one I thought was a rumor was truth and that is my
husband's 63 yr old paternal gg grandfather who was a Baptist preacher
murdered his wife and her boyfriend and spent a good part of his old age in
San Quentin Prison. I have the court records too prove it. I am trying to
get the newspaper article about it now since it happened in San Francisco, and I
live in Alaska its not so easy.
You never know what skeletons in those closets are true or
not till you really dig sometimes.
Keep having fun digging...I know brick walls really throw
a monkey wrench in searching , however, nothing feels better then breaking down
a wall.
By the way my adopted daughters father is a Davenport.
Have a Great Day
Debbie
I do thank you for the help you have provided. Each piece is a step towards
finding the next piece of the puzzle. I have not done a goggle search in a
while so your reminder is a good thing. You run through things so often
that after a while a small reminder is very good.
Thank you,
MaryJeanne |
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Hi, I did that goggle search and was happy to find some new data. From a search I learned that my Aunt Jessie Mustain/Newburn is buried in Monett, Missouri in the Bethel Baptist Cemetery. I knew she had died but I now have a date to put with it of 29 Oct 2002. I learned from this same article that my last known living aunt was last living in Nevada and her current last name at the time of the obit was Voiles. So Bonnie Mustain/Coble/Voiles. I did find a phone number for a Bonnie Voiles in the living area listed in the obit but it is a disconnected number. The is the same thing I used to get with Aunt Bonnie. It has been many years but she used to write me and by the time I got the letter back in the mail she had already moved. Story of life I guess. I now also know that I have quite a few second and third cousins out there. Aunt Jessie had thirteen grandchildren, and 22 great grandchildren. Wow a whole bunch of new cousins to look for. Then I found a general locaction of another of Jessies children. So on another goggle search I found a piece where a gentleman named Raymond Banks did an abstraction from draft cards from 1917 to 1918. My grandfather William Mustain is listed on this as having registered in Stevens, Missouri was born 5 Jun 1888 in Buffalo Missouri. From my own grandfather's listings of his birth place I am being pointed towards Buffalo instead of Tunis. So thanks again Deb for the goggle search reminder. It has paid off some already. During another search I found an email address for the county that my great grandfather is said to have been born and have email this lady for information on where to possibly get his record. She emailed me back already and gave me information on how to obtain a search, the cost, and the information I need to provide. Mary |
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Hi Mary,
Your making me feel guilty as i
ahve not done much on my genealogy lately at all. I have been too busy playing
in the SCA our medieval group. We are the Vikings you know..lol. Hey at least
its my real blood line.
Anyway..I was thinking when I
saw the word draft card if you have any family who were in the military try too
get their records or pension. I received my husband's 5th gg paternal
grandfathers 101 page civil war pension..wowww was that neat. First of
all I got a lot of dates and names out of that including hubbys 5gg
paternal grandmother's maiden name, and where she was born and a bunch of other
stuff. I was well worth the money, and time too go through it. If you want help
with that let me know. I also found him on the internet in military
files.
I just got the Dallas County ,
Missouri History Book not too long ago neat neat book. If you want too give
me a couple names for you I might be able too find someone in
there.
I was going too just start
emailing you privately, and then I started thinking that just maybe one of us
might say something that might be of interest, or help for someone else on the
list.
Keep having fun piecing your
family together sounds like your doing a great job. :0)
Have a Great Genealogy
Day
Debbie |
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