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Hi TruthSeeker! You have definitely hit upon a favorite topic of ourz! Make sure 2 check out the thread called "CODE NAME: THE WITCH'S BROOM" which iz our favorite nickname for astral travel. I have never eXperienced that "No" yell u described in travel but I may have in a medtation long ago. It seemz very natural although we won't try 2 tell u what it meanz. It iz subjective. I will say this. Astral Travel getz 2 the heart of many a mundane matter. Read between our lineZ! Therefore we have encountered no topic in the entire occult lore which iz so guarded or forbidden 2 the masses while coveted and cultivated by the elite (leaders of church, sect, tribe, mystical school and definitely modern society. The penaltiez are historically severe and include death, torture, incarceration, drugging, electro- shocking and lobotomiZation. A medieval attack force which continuez to this day, this moment. TheZe thingz became revealed 2 us in the subjective and objective study and practice of projection. Even the ATTEMPT 2 astral project can produce a string of rewardz defying description. Although dated the best description might be: Mind Expansion. Literally. The KEY iz sporadic practice causes little or no resultz. Whether Qigong, aerobics or astral projection the only thing that produces substance of resultz iz steady, daily, nightly practice of a thing. Then in a short while, 3 dayz-monthz you'll exceed your expectationz! It iz possible TruthSeeker that you were not ready on that particular day 2 project, it may have been a "Projection" of your personal fearz, etc., etc. Getting a bump on the butt when falling off yer horsey iz a bit scarey but should motivate us 2 hop on "Bessie" quicker and get out there and ride her fer all she'z got! .......... | Reply
| | Hello truthseeker, From what i know, there are guidelines to check if you are really projecting or not. There is consicous recognition when you are "out there". You could say get some of your frens to do certain stuff at an appointed time and then you project out to "snoop" on them. After that you could verfiy your findings with them. That would imply you have some skill and control already though! Maybe some of the other more experienced travellers could share such experiences. I always try to remember that but always end up floating around only.....lol........... There are quite a lot of books on this subject too, robert monroe is one dude i know who is a pioneer in bringing astral projection to a science. He is an engineer by profession orginally.....the love of technical terms does show in his books! Hope this helps....... | | Reply
| | Hi Truthseeker, I had a similar experience at one time. I was 10 years old in school and my teacher was droning on, and I knew nothing about 'Astral Projection', but I did hear a loud "POW," then I was floating outside the schoolhouse and a 'Presence' was with me. I was very humbled, so I couldn't look at his face. That was my first OOB. Years later, I was 'trying' to and again I heard a loud noise and projected downward thru the mattress, under the bed, then thru my shoes and wound up in the kitchen looking at the refrigerator. I then was jolted back into my body by the dog I think, but the memory of passing thru the shoes and looking at the pictures on my refrigerator stayed with me. I have also spoke to others who hear a loud noise when they are beginning...or so they told me. Maybe it is a more common phenomena than we know...In one of the Paths I was on, it was explained that one was "breaking the Astral Barrier", sort of like the sound barrier. One can only go by their own experiences... I haven't read Monroes book, tho I intend to, but Robert Bruce has written one called "Astral Dynamics" that I find very good. He doesn't use any eastern terms, which confused me some, as I was used to them to describe the Planes, etc. He suggests laying a random playing card on your dresser, and when you get out, go see what the card is, and hold the thought as you return, as proof positive you were 'out there.' Namaste, ~eerie | | |
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From: robbie | Sent: 7/31/2003 2:21 PM | hi truth.many thanks for your kind thoughts for my son friend ,i want to take this opportunity to say a big thanks to all for there help in prayers and positive thoughts for Connor.as i write this he is feeling better and we all are hoping the doctors are wrong and he will make a full recovery in time.in respect to astral projection Monroe book is a excellent read,full of knowledge etc.the no you heard when on the brink of projection could have been one of two things.first your own fear could have produced this (no )or sometime you can feel a presence close by.you have to overcome this barrier to project, think of it as a test you have to confront and deal with.sounds easy we wish lol.personally i feel that our higher self will test us and help to prepare us to understand this new realm we wish to travel in.on the other hand this could have been a negative entity attracted to your energy when trying to project.basically they don't like projectors in there real time world for want of a better word.you really must get more information so you can understand the power of thought and how to control your astral body,and indeed the realms you will find yourself in when you project.this subject is so hugh and wonderful .a doorway opens and it is limited only by your own fears and lack of understanding.you have made the right decision to ask us as there are a number of travellers here on this site.please get to study the subject more you will need it.a site i use also is(astral meeting place )you can read all of our experiences both high and low.there are many techniques to project and you need to look at.but i feel more so get to read about what happens when out of body.the power of mind set.purpose of projection.one way to tell if you were out or just dreaming is to stick a playing card to your upstairs glass window,not looking at value of card stick on glass so you need to be outside looking in to see card.then when out of body have a look and then back to physical body to check it out.this in fact can be a aid to projection.if before sleep you think about going out of body and looking,this can in fact happed during sleep.to know one is in fact dreaming opens the doorway to the astral .so set this as a goal look at the back of the card before sleep and build up a desire to project to see value of card.over a number of weeks you be surprised at what can happen.this will be a major step forward for you.but again please read all you can,sometimes the doorway once opened wont close so easy.for me personally i wouldn't have missed the experiences for the world,so much to learn to experience your life will never be the same after.regards Robbie | |
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The reason astral travel is so guarded and so forbidden is that astra travel reveals that we are first spiritual beings having a human experience. Astral Travel reveals another dimension occuring simultaneous to our reality. The world wants us to buy into the belief that we are only physical beings and that once we die, it is forever over. When we buy into this belief we are afraid to live and afraid to die. Yet despite that the world clings to this belief that we are only physical beings with one chance at life, the collective world has no value for life itself. The difference between real astral travel and the desire to astral travel is that astral travel imparts an explosion of magnified senses. you can move through walls, you see through floors, It feels so real that experiencing everday life in comparison is mundane. For those who want to do Astral Travel, they should be prepared to fully experience a separate reality that will reveal our spiritual attributes, such as the ability to fly, to read minds. Those unprepared will experience intense fear. A destination as well as a purpose is necessary or one will just float around literally with the butt high up in the air and the head and limps hanging down with the uncanny wish to return back to the body. It is an awesome experience that reveals there is more to life, or our life then what we were taught and more than anything in life has prepared us for. I love to fly because it represents pure joy and I learnt I can not fly if my guardian Angel will not let me. I use to think you flew out of free will but not so. Someone enables you to fly. In astral travel and in dreams, one can find oneself often alone. Despite this appearance of being alone, someone is always with you. This someone is your guardian angel and your guardian angel is God's true love for you personified as an angel person who you love and knew before birth and who will be with you for eterntity. Astral travel is akin to LSD> when LSD is taken as a recreational drug it can become quite dangerous in that it brings to the surface of your awareness your subconscious fears and it disables a person from distinguishing between reality and a dream state. But LSD taken in its natural state(plants), are plants designed by a superior intelligence for LSD is a spiritual drug involving much preparation for it also reveals we are spiritual beings who are not alone. Astral travel can be frightening for those unprepared with the knowledge that we are spiritual beings who are never alone. Astral travel is similiar to meditation, in that you silence the mind of its chatter and you focus on your breathing deep in your abdomen for at least 15 minutes. The difference between astral trave and meditation is that your mind is preparing to Astral travel. Daily practice for up to 3 weeks or more might be needed. When you notice an astral projection is about to occur, Your spirit will start to twist and turn in side your body. You will feel it as pressure or movement within your body. Your emotions are magnified. You have already established a purpose and a destination, and you have been informed you are not alone, someone is permitting you to have this experience. When you return to your body it can be like a thump or also with twists and turns. We are often alone, for we often think no one can really know us and still love us, and being alone is what the world wants us to believe. That way, we become vulnerable and exploitable to the abuse of others. When you experience God's realism and God's love for you, then you are no longer vulnerable and exploitable by the world. The real reason astral travel is guarded and forbidden is that once you experience God's realism and God's love for you, you no longer buy into all the lies and the deceits of the world. No one has control or power over you. In fact the lies and the deceits become clearly visible. Once you tap into God's loving Presence via astral travel, dreams, meditation, intuition, spiritually prepared LSD, or sheer desire, then you have a one to one realitionship with God and you no longer can be bought and sold by the world. You will discover all your life you have been living in a prison and you didn't even know it until the walls started crumbling down all around you, to reveal a world you didn't know existed. When you have God's guidance and love, you are no longer afraid to live nor afraid to die. Then you understand it was as if all your life you had been asleep and now you are fully awake. Love and Light | | | | | | | | | | | | A Bee bg | | | | |
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| | From: Eerie7 | Sent: 2/13/2007 1:29 AM |
Whispered-Softly... Wow... your post blew me away hon! You bring much to the table! This message is not only beautiful (the border/presentation is awesome) but is so packed with your insightful wisdom! IMO... you are no novice at Astral travel...lol! Thank you for sharing it with us here... Namaste... ~eerie |
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Thank YOU Eerie for your wonderful response. I was apprehensive because I mentioned LSD. I had forgotten to mention, that although I use to love to astral travel, I no longer have the desire because I am aware of my Guardian Angels and they are with me always, so when I need to feel comforted, all I do is lay down and talk to them. My nic should be Eerie too, because I have to restrain myself from saying too much. As for the backgrounds, you are a member (I hope still) of ABeeBg, and any background you see I bring here, you can have, furthermore, if you seek something special to highlight your writing for your boards, just let me know. I have more tiles and graphics then I am able to post at my group( from lack of time, etc). Thus far, I appreciate this group. I enjoy the diversity of the members as well as the interesting topics. As a Christian, you can see by my spiritual experiences I do not belong anywhere, for even though my faith has not been established by birth or upbringing rather it has been established by becoming aware of the Holy Spirit, I am not accepted in Christian groups or in Gnostic groups should I be opened and that is because most people do not believe they can encounter Jesus. Jesus' true teachings include much of the topics in this group but His true knowledge became lost knowledge because of the severe persecution of the early Christians. Anyway, enough for now. Love and Light. |
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| | From: Eerie7 | Sent: 2/13/2007 5:08 PM |
Whispered-Softly... Thank you so much for your kind offer on the backgrounds... Yes, I am still a member of ABeeBG and it is a fantastic group where I have used so many of your backgrounds on many of my posts! Strange... but it wasn't til about a week after you joined here that I realized where I knew you from! I was on your group searching for just the rite background to use with a message I wanted to dress up (I love suiting messages with pictures I have saved to my hard-drive and framing them with the rite colors - but I know very little about creating backgrounds) when I saw your name as the creator of them! It took me by surprise...lol! You do fantastic work! We are pleased you are enjoying it here on DSC and are very happy you are here hon! The light you share with us is brilliant... keep on shining... Namaste... ~eerie |
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Oh Eerie: it was so ok that you couldn't recall where we encountered each other, but that you found out that I make the backgrounds at Abeebg, is so thrilling for me and that you do use them is a great honour. Moreover, I am so happy that I was able to find you, because I searched for you when I discovered you posted in your profile that you are interested in astral travel which is a rare interest that I have also. I love what you do with the backgrounds, your pictures you use are very unique as well as beautiful. I do have tutorials on how to make your backgrounds but my site was designed for people who do not have the time to learn to make their own. I do enjoy DSC as the topics are cherished and the members here are very positive and spiritually enlightening all of which I appreciate very much. |
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| | From: Eerie7 | Sent: 2/19/2007 7:47 PM |
Whispered-Softly... Thank you for your kind words... I have been a fanatic for snagging graphics and backgrounds for a couple of years when I found ABeebg! I have never mastered PSP or html to create my own tho... If I remember rite, I posted on the site that your BGs were the best I had ever seen... You create such lovelys to share freely with others, and I see your works all over MSN groups! You should feel proud that so many others feel the same way as I do about them... Recently MIMI showed me how to make BGs using pre-made templates and I have been having a ball practicing with that...lol! That takes html out of the picture...lol! Then I realized one could also use graphics and not just Tiles and that opened up a world of possibilitys for my creative side! I am so glad you found us here at DSC2... You bring so much to the table... Namaste... ~eerie |
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