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From: MSN NicknameEerie7  (Original Message)Sent: 9/21/2006 7:13 PM
Talking to the Dragons: The Shamanic Tradition of Tethatu

Tethatu is the name of the highest initiation one can reach in the healing traditions practised by the Magyar people, and roughly translates as 'one who talks with the dragons'. Dragons are our strongest helpers, and the last ones we meet on this spiritual path. These traditions have three parts or bridges, and each part has its own specific helper spirits.

The first helpers we work with are the tree spirits. These give us the first bridge, the bridge of death. This is so called because at this stage the shaman must experience his or her own death in order to release all of their resistance to the inner worlds. Our normal doorway into the next world is through physical death, and it is our fear of death that keeps us bound to this world. Once we have faced death, we have easy access to the next world, the unconscious or underworld.

The healing work done at this level is similar to the shamanic or underworld journey. This healing is done to retrieve lost fragments of the soul, release entities, solve conflicts in the unconscious mind, and break down the elemental energy of past traumas, suppressed emotions, and negative patterns and habits.

The reason why tree spirits act as our allies here is that it is considered they have their main existence in the astral plane. Having no physical movement, the physical tree is just a centre for the spirit which has an active life on other planes. Tree spirits have a far greater mastery of the underworld than we can ever achieve, and this makes them powerful allies in our journeying work.

When a tree spirit wishes to work with a person, it will subdivide, in a kind of fission form, like an amoeba, so that a separate spirit can live in a single branch. This spirit is not like a child, but has all the wisdom and experience of the original tree spirit. It then calls the shaman to cut that branch from the tree and use it. The size of the branch can vary. To produce a wooden bead wearable around the neck, or to make a full-sized staff both require different amounts of wood. Tree spirits are not limited to space, a large spirit can be within a very small branch.

A shaman usually has a number of spirits carried on their person, and communicates with them continuously while working. They help to guide the shaman when he visits other worlds on a shamanic journey, also each species of tree has particular specialities in the kind of healing they give. These traditions work with thirteen different trees: Birch, Rowan, Ash, Alder, Willow, Whitethorn, Oak, Holly, Hazel, Apple, Blackthorn, Elder, and Yew. These thirteen trees represent our growth from conception to birth, infancy, adolescence, adulthood, and finally death.

The second bridge we cross is the bridge of chaos. This is so called because we have to go beyond logic and reason and stop trying to make sense of the universe. There is a great deal in the universe that is not logical or rational, and if we demand things make sense, we cannot enter the next realm - the imaginal realm.

This realm does not fit anywhere in our picture of the three shamanic worlds - the lower, middle, and upper worlds - rather it is a place of 'wild unharnessed creativity'. Here imagination imagines itself. When you enter this realm, you will find your vision is clearer than ever before, with everything in brilliant technicolour. This is because it is not you who is imagining, but imagination itself communicating with you.

When we give healing from this level, we are no longer concerned with the past, but with the future, because we can see that the cause lies in the future. In the normal creation process, we first decide the effect, and then go back in time to add the cause. We tend to forget that we created the cause, because of the consensus belief that cause is in the past. Once we are outside of time, we can see through the illusion of this belief. Intent is the most powerful creative force here. It is intent that makes us hold onto the causes. We are what we are now not because of the past, but because of the future that we are becoming. This perception is agreed with by quantum physics, which sees every experience as a double quantum wave between here and the future.

If something did not have a future we could not experience it. Healing consists of weeding and cultivating futures. We can see many possible futures affecting a person, all competing for attention. All forms compete for food so they can grow; futures exist as astral forms that feed on the mental energy of the attention you give them. Whatever forms get your attention feed of your mental energy. The ones that win grow stronger until they manifest physically, while other futures die and never manifest. The healers work here to destroy negative futures, redirecting the energy to the positive futures, and helping them to grow. The effect of this is felt immediately as it effects who you are now.

Our allies at this level are herb and flower spirits. These spirits live outside of linear time and therefore move in touch with future causality. Like tree spirits, the healer allows the herbs and flowers to call to them, so that when he takes them they still contain the spirit. The healer then dries the plant and wraps it in small pieces of cloth with a mark drawn on it to remind him of which plant it is. He can then carry the herbal charm bags ready to use in healing.

The third bridge is called the bridge of belief. This is because nothing here can ever be proven, and only the strength of our belief can carry us on. All the helpers here are entirely non-physical and unprovable. Traditionally they would be elves, fairies, and dragons. Many people who learn this system without the limitation of its original tradition find other non-physical helpers such as angels, devas, and the gods of various religions.

Dragons rule the primeval forces of creation and destruction, and protect the divine plan of evolution. Fairies provide joy, pleasure, and sensitivity, and give our lives more depth. The two balance each other, providing a well-balanced, happy life, with emotional and physical wellbeing. These beings influence our lives without us knowing it and becoming aware of it enables us to enhance our experience of life.

The realm this bridge leads us to is called the Ginnungagap or magically charged void. It is hard to describe but contains all potential and all form. From this plane we see all beings as simply patterns of energy, and by working with the fairies and dragons, we can destroy negative patterns and rebuild the light matrix of a person's soul, re-weaving patterns that seem to be faulty or distorted.

When working in this way, the healer often does not see the physical body of the patient, as he is in a trance seeing only the changing energy patterns. Observers who are present however sometimes comment on impressive physical changes in the patient, such as large lumps of calcification quickly dissolving or hernias drawing back into place and healing. This work also produces subtle changes in the patient's personality, but its real value is more mystical: it puts people in touch with their true will and purpose.

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