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From: MSN NicknameTongman13  (Original Message)Sent: 10/2/2006 2:09 AM
From: grasshopper Sent: 3/28/2003 1:13 PM
Hmmm....looks interesting.
Robbie,have you read the book Astral Travel by yvonne frost? I heard that they have a lot of protection mechnics built into their method.
 
Wonder if anyway here astral travelling has encountered  real hostility in the astral realms?
 
With regards to the Matrix 5 info, i think it's a real good read. Plenty of thought-provoking information that raises your awareness levels. The only problem i see is some people may react negatively to it due to the nature of what it contains. 
 
Quite a few touchy topics covered indeed......one would be affected to various extent depending on your readniess to absorb/grasp it.
 
How are u doing with the readings Barbara? 
 
 
 
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknamewhirlwindZ1</NOBR> Sent: 3/30/2003 10:10 PM
Hi Everyone,
 
This Matrix material soundz veeery interesting! Fascinating!! I have looked at some of the earlier volumes and I didn't know WHAT to think!!? It was the most dazzling collection of info, illustrations, charts and photos I'd ever seen. Like a galactic transmission for authors with one heck of a perspective! The volumes were always huge, usually photocopied (which made it look bootleg but underground and valuable at the same time. Like it had been stolen??!!). Talking about "kicking your self"... I could kick myself for not buying those volumes back then! LOL! But they were always so expensive and there's a time for everything. I wonder if they have package deals for those who want to buy more than one.... Too bad its not online ebooks either. We could then chip in and but one for the group. One of us should search if there are "Matrix discussion groups.
 
Was it *MATRIXA* who told me that the movie MATRIX is based on the material in those earlier volumes??!! The sequel to that movie is about a month away! Droooool, drool!
 
Has anyone other than me noticed how much many of the concepts sound similar to the Seth material channeled by Jane Roberts and Robert Butts. That info on reality creation and numberless simultaneous lives changed my life and is the highest quality of channeled info I ever came across. Seth taught me more important things about Jesus the Christ and The Essenes (eg. essence and quintessence) than anyone. One thing we know from Seth is that Jesus was very down to Earth and would have little to do with so many who preach, and intone his name, never mind those who ask for his blessings as they march off to war??! Not only that, it seems dude had a sense of humor that doesn't translate very well and while not martial he wasn't a pacifist either. "Turn the other cheek" for instance referred to a saying of those times. Jesus was the Man and still is one of my main Men not cause he's "God" or the "Son of God" (Jeez Louise! What are we? Stepchildren?! LOL!) but because he taught the lesson everyone seems to need to learn The Most: LOVEand because he is one of the greatest examples of Human Potential, mastery of the occult (ie. the hidden, the ESSENCES), mastery of physics and metaphysics that I know of.
 
A couple of questions for *MATRIXA* and Grasshopper about Matrix V. Does Matrix V talk about The Christ, The Buddha and other world prophets? Do they actually Teach any spiritual technology? Are exercises given? (Seth taught several for instance and so does Edgar Cayce. Seth's are POWERFUL and yield instant results and there are Seth discussion groups...). How much information if any does the author give about himself and his activities now?
 
Anyway, please keep sharing info on this topic! EACH ONE TEACH ONE


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From: MSN NicknameTongman13Sent: 10/2/2006 2:18 AM
From: grasshopper Sent: 3/31/2003 4:30 AM
Just finished the entire book(whew!).......going for a second reading again to get better impressions from it.
 
As far as i know, the author only mentions that he is shaman-trained, knows astrology and is a final-incarnation( sorta of the climax of all his other incarnations). Other than that, not much is know. I think he did not want people to concentrate too much on him. Maybe that is how we should leave it to be. But you can read his own observations and thoughts from the site i mentioned before.
 
I haven't read the Seth materials before, so i can't comment. But the author does mention that it is one of the more credible channelled sources.
 
Interestingly, the author starts that as one truely becomes more spiritual, one is less religious. The Jesus and Buddha potaryed in the bible and popular literature are misleading. 
 
I'm sure whirlwind will know more about what the real "jesus" is about. As for buddha, some of his teachings are useful, but the concept of karma and abstaining from the affairs of the illusionary world completely are again misleading.
 
It's all learning experiences in the end. You don't repay something for what you did in your "last life", since your other incarnations are simultaeously living out their lives now. This trap will slow your progress to "repaying your debts".
 
But you do incur consequences for following the choices you make. But it is not "bad" or "wrong". Put your hand in the fire and get burnt. Instant consequences.
 
The rule of thumb is if any religion or teaching identifies with genders,body or worship of external deities, then it leads to a spiritual dead-end, even though the teachings may be useful and sincere. In other words, take what is useful and discard the dogma garbage.
 
Spirits are of both genders, male and female. So you can be sure that any gods or goddness  made known are still in the polarity-based 3D and 4D realms.YOU (higher-self) are beyond that.
 
Since everyone's path is unique, then one should go connect with their higher-self for guidance. The book only includes one technique that the author uses. That is of concentrating on the chakras from the top(crown) to the bottom for connection to one's Higher-self. He says to use gold-light!
 
This is a  move away from the usual practice of concentrating on the lower chakras almost exclusively i must say. Hmmm.....reminds me of the inherent lure of the power-trap that many people are stuck in when cultivating their energies on these chakras.
 
With regards to the Movie matrix, he mentions that though there are some similarities and truth, it is of the body and a light-sider mentality. Meaning the movie potrays physical savalation through a saviour(Neo). This is external depedence on someone to help you to "unplug from the matrix". Fighting against the matrix to change the rules as depicted in the show is not allowed and will not happen in our reality here. You can try of course(light-siders), it's all part of the experience anyway.
 
But it sure was a great movie!
 
From: grasshopper Sent: 3/31/2003 4:35 AM
Sorry.........i meant the spirit is of both genders in one. Meaning the spirit is male and female at the same time. You are whole by yourself.

From: robbie Sent: 3/31/2003 1:56 PM
yes to confirm to dogmatic beliefs and comfort zone is to slow down personal spiritual growth and understanding.no one said that it is a easy road indeed.