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RobertBruceBaird : Spin-doctoring
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From: Robert Bruce Baird  (Original Message)Sent: 11/14/2006 6:34 PM
The keltoi or pre-Hellenic people including the Bards had a well-developed educational system that started with logical learning of things children love to do. In addition we now know that the development of the human brain in childhood makes it easiest to learn languages rather than math and other things this system intuited or knew. So the minstrels and jester’s arts, with their performances and study of rhetoric made a lot of common sense.


Common Sense is not common in much of the education system which has existed during the times of religious and Empire-oriented structures since the end of the Druidic Universities with the Roman Empire which has grown in influence every time it has supposedly collapsed or fallen. Gibbon wrote eloquently for his Masonic brethren like Hume. He tells us the Roman Empire did not fall when the Goths or Vandals invaded and that it was in 1493 with the fall of the Byzantine Court that the Roman Empire ended. When Julius took control of power from the Senate and made it an Empire that answered to one main Caesar (Kaiser and Czar) this clearly made it possible for fewer people to share in the booty.


But it was the work of Constantine that really accelerated the grab of power by the few. The Equestrian class were no mere farmers as the likes of the De Medici or Bauers (Rothschild Benjaminites) would have us believe. They were the elite power-brokers and they had secret spying ventures and a monopoly on usury. In Rome they rented out state-owned land to farmers who were only allowed to earn a limited amount of money. Constantine never became a Christian but he made Christianity the new overlord. This Holy Roman Empire never had to pass assets to the people and it even took over the institutions of charity. Needless to say the institutions of education became increasingly controlled and manipulated as the Dark Ages and Sins and Demons initiatives were developed. Eventually people were told the only thing they should or even could study was the Bible. In other Abrahamic religious lands that developed Islam it was the Koran or other dogma that Caliph Omar, who was involved in the destruction of the Library of Alexandria, said must be studied. So the world has grown and people have become ever more institutionalized.


Semantics and the parsing of words and meaning has achieved heights of ignorance in all the minions who are archetypically inculcated with the power of the words and rituals that they do not grasp the intent of. Spin-doctors and apologists on either side of the Hegelian (Play both ends against the middle) Dialectic owe a lot to Machiavellian techniques and “appeals to base human urges�? Plato never imagined how far it would go in his top-down hierarchy. Semiotics and the Delphi Technique of the present are aided greatly by other hypnotic tools and mind control but drugs have always been part of the social engineering effort since the elite developed the Cult of Death in Egypt where Peruvian cocaine is forensically found in Egyptian mummies.


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From: MSN NicknamewhirlwindZ1Sent: 11/14/2006 9:09 PM
By the way Robert, we're not saying we don't want you to participate on other threadz when sumthing strikez your fancy! We are saying pleaZe get the maX # of readerz by making your posts easy to find. PleaZe keep posting. Each One Teach One.  

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From: Robert Bruce BairdSent: 11/14/2006 11:21 PM
It is my experience on hundreds of web sites that the vast majority of readers do not go to the side boards.

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From: MSN NicknamewhirlwindZ1Sent: 11/15/2006 1:55 AM
....and then there waZ David St. Clair 2.
 
We don't even care whether folkz go to the sideboards. We DO CARE that Your Material iz somewhere where we can find it becaUZe That iz longevity. Not General Flash In The Pan posts.  

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From: Robert Bruce BairdSent: 11/15/2006 6:26 AM
Well that sounds nice but I am interested in people reading and responding and learning through questioning. I have had at least twenty sites set up sideboards and in every case it has not lead to what I would (and do get) on General Boards. At one site a person suggested I should post only on the sidebiords when I am saying something that causes thinking - that most unusual and dreaded thing - it would seem. They had made me Member of the Month and they had invited me to be the first man in their group a year earlier. I left with nary a further mention. The person who made the negative remark traced me to my research group and apologized in a back-handed manner rife with accusatory tones and innuendo.
 
I guess the simple thing I can say relates to the matter of time and the investment I have made in my work and purpose. When I am not getting any real action I move to new sites. I left here once before after joining while many of us were on the Jim Marrs site. He continues to help in meaningful ways. On fact I am now at the point where I can see that Jim was right to spend little or no time on the web. It is almost always an ego thing with people.
 
I have recently seen a poll at one site addressing whether or not people read the sideboards and it was part of why I put these things together. I am not particularly interested in having people do a browser search on me and then having them look at a site that shows next to no activity on my threads because they are on a sideboard. It affects sales negatively and without sales I cannot see getting people to read what really counts. Not just snipettes of books that cannot tell the facts as they must be integrated if things are to be really understood. Actual facts require integration with all manner of perspectives and addtional support from numerous disciplines generally. Otherwise it ends up being disinfortainment. And lord knows that is the norm along with lies and miss-story!

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