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Sent: 1/8/2005 11:23 PM

JFK and UFOs
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:08:36 -0500
The View from Marrs by Jim Marrs challenges bureaucratic secrecy
and the status quo.
President John F. Kennedy may have had more than the usual
knowledge about UFOs, according to several credible sources.
Further support for Kennedy's high-level knowledge regarding
UFOs came from a former steward aboard Air Force One who told of a
cryptic remark by President Kennedy.
Bill Holden, who also served as loadmaster for Air Force One,
traveled with Kennedy to Europe in the summer of 1963. He said a
UFO conference in Bonn, Germany, prompted a discussion of the
subject aboard the President's plane one morning.
Holden said he turned to Kennedy and asked, "What do you think about
UFOs, Mr. President?" He said Kennedy became quite serious and thought
for a moment before replying, "I'd like to tell the
public about the alien situation, but my hands are tied."
A controversial MJ-12 document titled "Interplanetary
Phenomenon Unit Summary," noted Kennedy's insider knowledge. This
document, apparently written soon after the crashes in New Mexico
during July 1947, states, "It has become known to CIC [Counter
Inte-ligence Corps] that some of the recovery operation was shared
with Representative John F. Kennedy, Massachusetts Democrat elected to
Congress in '46, Son of Joseph P. Kennedy, Commission on
Organization of the Executive Branch of the Gove-nment. [Jack]
Kennedy had limited duty as naval officer assigned to Naval
Intelligence during the w-r. It is believed that information
[concerning the Roswell crashes] was obtained from [a] source in
Cong-ess who is close to [the] Secretary for Air Fo-ce." Kennedy was the
only Co-gressmen named who was aware of the truth of the Roswell
incidents at the time.
Yet another document appears to be a memorandum written from
President Kennedy to the director of the C-A regarding
"Classification review of all UFO intelligence files affecting
National Sec-rity." In this memo, Kennedy stated, ". . .I have initiated
[blacked out] and have instructed [then N-SA
Administrator] James W-bb to develop a program with the Soviet
Union in joint space and lunar exploration. It would be very
helpful if you would have the high threat cases reviewed with the
purpose of identification of bona fide as opposed to classified
CI- and U-Af sources. It is important that we make a clear
distinction between the knowns and unknowns in the event the
Soviets try to mistake our extended cooperation as a cover for
intelligence gathering of their defense and space programs."
Kennedy then asked for all files on "Unknowns" to be turned over
the NA-A authorities and an interim report be forwarded to the
Wh-te House no later than Feb.1, 1964.
This document which clearly showed a president about to make UFO
se-rets available to wider circles in gov-rnment and, hence,
probably available to the public was dated Nov. 12, 1963, just 10 days
before his Nov. 22 ass-ssination in Dallas.
Desperately clinging to their UFO-free mindset, debunkers
question this document's authenticity while an unquestionably
authentic document has been found in the John F. Kennedy Library.
National Security Action Memorandum No. 271 is titled
"Cooperation with the USSR in Outer Space Matters" and is
addressed to the Administrator of NAS-, at that time James Web-.
This signed memo does not mention UFOs specifically, nevertheless,
Kennedy instructs We-b to "assume personally the initiative and
central responsibility within the Go-ernment for the development of a
program of substantive cooperation with the Soviet Union in the
field of outer space, including the development of specific
technical proposals." Kennedy added that this plan was a direct
result of "my September 20 proposal for broader cooperation between the
Unit-d States and the USSR in outer space, including cooperation in
lunar landing programs."
This incredible document was also dated Nov. 12, 1963, but who
in 1963 would have believed that the Unit-d States and the Soviet Union
would have been engaging in cooperative joint space
operations? The W-ite House log of that day showed that beginning at 2
p.m. Kennedy had lunch and then "no official appointments"
but "conferred with various staff members during the afternoon."
Obviously on this day, Kennedy had more than enough time to deal with
space matters.
Also obvious is the fact that this apparent attempt to cooperate
with the USSR ended with Kennedy's de-th in Dallas. On through the
administration of Ronald Reagan, we were still warned against the
"ev-l empire" and the costly Cold War continued.
Opponents to JFK became frantic over his attempts to alter the
course of previous U.S. policies. According to one knowledgeable
source, Kennedy played a dangerous game, ". . .after making it
clearly evident that he was not prepared to support action against the
communists in the normal sense - plans to withdraw troops
from South Vietnam - plans to fracture or abolish portions of the -IA;
plans for expansion to the Justice System; failure to support the Bay of
Pigs [invasion]; and a desire to share some of our most sensitive
secr-ts with the Russians and Chinese - space borne
platforms, etc. . .All during a time when his popularity was growing in
leaps and bounds with the Ame/rican public - a President who did
not enjoy majority support at his election. A very dangerous
situation, leaving few methods for control beyond assas-ination." This
same source went on to say, "I believe John F. Kennedy was
appraised of, and had access to, sufficient classified information, to
have personally come to the conclusion that UFOs and therefore
possible alien life-forms were possibly extant within our solar
system. . . I think Kennedy certainly came to this conclusion and
was looking to demonstrate not only mankind's ability to come
together for a common goal, but to formally demonstrate we could enter
and conquer space as a species. Back then, some would have seen this as
either crazy (if they had no access to the material) or (if they had
access) very premature and possibly dangerous."
A whole JFK issue evolved around his planned speech at the
Dallas Trade Mart, the destination of his ill-fated motorcade on
Nov. 22, 1963.
Several researchers and some tabloids have claimed that he planned to
change his scheduled talk and referred to handwritten notes,
which may have included comments regarding UFOs. These notes have
never been made public and so continue to be fodder for theorists. With
all the evidence now at hand, there can be little doubt that
President Kennedy may have known more about UFOs than is generally
believed.
I personally remember walking around as a five year old reciting JFK's
"Ask Not" speech to my neighbors shortly before my age five event where
I saw many interesting things. Among them where a
paper thin screen or book containing scrolling backlit symbols
with a simplified omega symbol on the upper lefthand corner and
the presence of human divers or frog men who were suspended in
depressurized water between inner and outer domes of a well
concealed underwater city at 400 fathoms. So my question is,
"Was JFK possibly involved in a multinational/multiworld "omega
project" designed to oust archaism once and for all? He would
be just the personality to make it globally appealing. Let us
keep the torch lit.

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Michael_Bellinger

Sent: 1/9/2005 3:51 PM

good story, thanks Eerie

haven't been to Jim's site lately

but i have to go back and restore some

of items that got lost there sometime soon

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whirlwindZ1

Sent: 1/9/2005 4:52 PM

Indeed, very good story ~eerie. I think I mention on your

"Something to think about thread" the assertion that JFK's decision

2 talk with the U.S. public about UFOs despite his "..hands being

tied...." being one of the big 3 (but not the only ) reaZonZ JFK

waZ liquidated! The other reaZonZ were wanting 2 shrink military

(especially Intelligence) spending and Civil Rights reform. Poor dude,

while far from being saintly he wanted 2 do thingz that would elevate

the standard of living and in doing so he angered such a large, powerful

interlocking matriX of groupz that the controversy of who killed him haz

numerous reaZonz 2 never be clarified.

On the other hand one area of JFK's performance waz much

less than honorable (in fact it waz HORRIBLE!!) WAz THAT OF

vIETNAM!

nOthing honorable there at all!!!

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