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From: MSN NicknameŞåLÊÊñ  (Original Message)Sent: 7/11/2006 7:07 PM
Well, I guess this is where I tell how I am feeling and whats going on and 'stuff.'
 
Yesterday, I think, was one of my 'worst' days, emotionally, since I found out I was diabetic.  Its hard enough trying to make sure I don't eat things with sugar in them, but my doctor ordered me to a 1000 - 1200 calorie/day diet because of my inability to get around/move because of the arthritis in my back.
 
Granted, I never ate much before, but at least I didn't have to think about what was in what I ate (calorie wise) and this really limits my choices.  I like, sometimes, if I am feeling good (food sometimes makes me sick) to have chips or popcorn while watching a movie at night, but now I have to think first..."how many calories have I had today?  How many of this am I allowed to have??"  And then when looking for things that are low in calories...I found some wonderful strawberry ice pops which were very low in calories, and I thought, "Oh goodie!  Something tasty! (so much of that reduced and low calorie food tastes like ....) and afterwards, I thought to check how much sugar it had...something like 26 grams, and it just about broke my heart because now I knew I couldn't eat it because of the sugars.
 
I feel like I am living on a diet of sugar free jello (I'm not, but it seems like that is the only 'good' thing out there for me to eat.).
 
Gawd, I am getting sad and depressed about this whole thing just talking about it.
 
Time to go test my sugars, so I can see if there is even anything I want to eat...I really don't want to anymore, it seems.  Its pointless.
 
Doc wants them at 110.  They started off 2 weeks ago at 240, and yesterday they were 140, so down 100...getting there, slowly.  Generally, I only test once a day...that is all he wants me to do for now, in the morning when I get up, although I have been up now for over 2 hours and still haven't tested or eaten anything, so I better get to it.
 
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From: BarSent: 7/11/2006 7:30 PM
Welcome to the group. A diabetic ed.class will be a great help in finding out what to eat.  They will tell you how much carb you can have.  If you learn to count carb grams it will be easier to choose things you like. There are small bags of micro popcorn that are the less carb  as two slices of bread.  This may  not be your best choice but when you just have to have something you can substitute.  Balancing carb and calories is hard but if you get more information you can do it.  You should also look at the glycemic index. It tells how long it takes for carbs to be metabolized.
You can have lots of vegs and thats good for carbs and calories. 
Bar

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From: MSN NicknameseventiezdreamerSent: 7/11/2006 11:20 PM
Welcome! Just like Bar said...a dietician will help you out immensely! One did for me...I have high cholesterol, high blood pressure, diabetes..and am trying my heart out to lose weight. I went to a dietician for all of it...and she helped me out alot. Now I know for sure what's good for me and what's not.
I eat alot of veggies...like Bar said...it's good for carbs and calories.
Good Luck to you...you will figure it out!
and good job bringing those numbers down so fast too...you must be doing something right!!!!!
Marcia

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From: MSN NicknameŞåLÊÊñSent: 7/12/2006 7:20 PM
I took two of my foster kittens back to rescue yesterday to find their forever homes, and brought home another mama and her baby to foster.  I love watching the kittens grow, and this mama is so sweet.  If I already didn't have so many of my own.  *Sigh*  Its very hard to give them up, sometimes.
 
My morning sugars were down from yesterday mornings.  I only test once a day, when waking, as per doc's instructions.  In many respects I feel like a kid learning to swim...someone has tossed me into a lake and said "swim" and is expecting me to do it while I am busy floundering and trying to keep my head above water. 
 
He gave me a kit, gave me me meds, and told me what he wanted my morning numbers to be, and how many calories a day I was allowed.  Oh...and he also gave me a chart to tell me how much calories and how much fat were contained in food, and on that note, I have pulled up several more calorie charts from other sources, too, like Subways (my hubby and I do their 2 for $8.99 special every sunday, so it helps to know how much calories my turkey sub has) and am compliling quite a list. 
 
It sorta hurts when the kids have something I especially like for dinner, like hot dogs, but for now, that is a big no-no.  I guess what is really funny is that for years I was on a 'low fat' diet and now I have to add two more elements to that...the calories and the sugar.  I definitely want my life back the way it was...I could live with that, but I am finding this so hard, and won't see the doc for another 2 weeks.
 
BS - 153

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From: MSN NicknameŞåLÊÊñSent: 7/13/2006 7:53 PM
Well, another day, and another day deeper in debt...isn't that how it goes?  One goes into debt just trying to make money...lol.  Over the weekend, for example, Gary, my wonderful hubby, was talking to the owner of a quaint little bar at the end of our street (its several blocks away) as they were having a car show, one of our interests.  They got discussing T-shirts, and he offered for us to make theirs, as they were not happy with the prices of the larger T-Shirt places, as it really ate into their profits and put the shirts out of the price range of a lot of their patrons.  After all, who wants to pay $27 for a silk screened shirt??  I know I wouldn't.
 
So, since then, I have been slowly but surely working on the shirts, and yesterday we decided to do a 'run' which is what I call it when I am printing shirts.  I expected to get 5 done...maybe 8 if I was lucky, but I actually managed to get 15 done...12 of which were sellable!  We sold them to her for $14 a piece, which left her lots of room for profit, and she was very very pleased and asked for 20 more!  So today I have to cut not one of each stencil...Each shirt requires 2 stencils...one for the front and one for the back, but 2 of each, since I dont want to do 2 seperate runs, and she has ordered white and black t-shirts.  Since this requires both white and black ink, I can't run them on the same stencils, hence the need for 2 sets.
 
After we got the order, we had to go shopping...for more T-shirts!  We have a supply of white t-shirts and some black ones, but we didn't have any in stock of the ones she asked for...Tanks!  You have no idea how hard it is to find Tank Tops!  We tried the local Wally World, and bought out all they had in the colors we needed, then drove to Tri-Cities, and bought out almost all they had too!
 
I was in a lot of pain by the time we got home.  Too much walking and not enough scooters/wheel chairs in stores to help me get around.  On top of it, I started feeling rather sick...nautious and light headed.  Too much heat, maybe?  I can't take it the way I did as a kid, but then as a kid, I never lived in an area where the temp easily exceeds 100 degrees in the summer.  lol.
 
Tested a few minutes ago.  137.  Lowest yet.  Good...and surprised.

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From: MSN NicknameŞåLÊÊñSent: 7/15/2006 7:35 PM
I am exhausted...I thought this week would never end.  Here's why...
 
 
Gary got an order for some t-shirts for a bar down the street last Saturday.  I spent a couple of days getting the design together, cutting the initial stencils, and then on Wednesday, did a short 'run' and printed out about 12 shirts. 
 
The owner of the bar LOVED them, and ordered another 20 shirts!
 
The rest of Wednesday was spent buying shirts, as the ones she wanted (tank) I didn't have in stock.  Thursday was spent cutting stencils...2 sets since I had to do runs with both black and white ink (same design, different colors).  It took until after midnight to get all the stencils cut (a lot longer than Gary thought...silly boy!)
 
Yesterday morning, Gary got up early and adhered the stencils to the screen.  It took him another 3 hours to do that, and after I got up, tested my sugars, had something to eat, took him to work, and picked up my new fosters (2 adorable lab x sharpei pups) I set to work printing the black t shirts.  I had nothing but troubles with those black shirts from the start, and they just didn't want to co-operate!  I finally managed to get them done, though, and since they had to be pressed each side 2x's, it took about 3 hours to get the required 10 shirts.  I took a break, then was set to work on the white t-shirts.  I knew these would go fast, but as I started gathering together the shirts I would need, I discovered I was short one shirt. 
 
GARY!!!
 
He had gotten confused reading our 'grocery list' of shirts, and missed out on one of the shirt sizes, and instead of having 3, we only had 1.  I held off printing the shirts, and picked up Gary from work, and then we went to Wally, both the local store, AND the one in Tri-cities to try and find those shirts.  Do you know that it is almost impossible to find blank tank tops around here??  I do have another source for them, but given the time sensitive nature (owner wanted the shirts asap) we had to go to the Evil Empire to get them.
 
So when we got home...extra tank-top-less...we printed the white shirts.  The run went smoothly and fast...TG.  It was 4 am this morning when we got finished, so now, I am going to be a vegetable all day.  I am worth it, and I deserve it.
 
BS today...144 

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From: MSN NicknameŞåLÊÊñSent: 7/19/2006 6:25 PM
Trying to keep this all together is so hard.  I know I probably sound like a broken record about my diet and all, but I feel like I was given a set of scant instructions...do this, do that, but not how to do this or that, dropped in the middle of a forest and told to find my own way out.
 
Gary is understanding, but the kids think life is as usual.  They don't understand that with the diagnosis, my whole world has changed, and I need their help to get through this, just as much as I need Gary's.  I hate having to ask, ask, ask all the time, and being forgotten when I don't ask.
 
I asked the doc, when I was there on monday some things, but talking to him at times is frustrating, too.  Like those pills he gave me for anxiety.  It doesn't affect my whole life...I am not a nervous nellie by nature.  I just get upset in crowds where I don't know anyone.  I don't like just sitting there being ignored, and I am too shy to make contact and start conversations.  Grocery shopping or other types of shopping don't bother me because its not a social situation.  He would not listen to that though...the doc...and insisted I take the pills, even though I pretty much told him they wouldn't be effective.  I have weird or no reactions to different things.  I know if I took it, it either wouldn't work, or it would work too well, and I would be a zombi, and I don't like that feeling.  I also didn't like what I read about the side effects and needing a docs help/permission if I wanted to go off them because going off them suddenly (he wanted me to try them for at least 2 weeks, and preferably a month) could cause all sorts of other problems!
 
I looked in Dex for information...anything, and the only thing there is, is a clinic at the hospital.  I don't know how that would work.

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From: MSN NicknameŞåLÊÊñSent: 9/27/2006 7:51 PM
This is so frustrating.  I am in tears.
 
Yesterday I started out the day at a wonderful 102.  I was happy.  I was pleased.  Hell, I was ecstatic!  I thought 'finally!'  I had 2 slices of bread for breakfast because I didn't feel like eating, and I still had to take my meds.  About 4 hours later, I was feeling nausious and light headed, so I checked my bs.  143!  Where the heck did that come from?  2 little slices of bread, without even butter or margerine on them, and a few sucks of sugarless lemonaid???  I ate a sugarless candy just to get the awful taste out of my mouth.  Later, when it was time for dinner, even though I still really didn't feel like eating (eating has become a chore for me since this damn diagnoses, no longer pleasurable) I checked my bs again, like I always do (doc says I don't need to do the pre-dinner check anymore, but somehow I feel better when I do) and it said 97.  Geeeeeeeeezus.  You'd think it would have gone down a heck of a lot more than that.
 
I was a bad girl for dinner, though.  I admit it.  Normally I wouldn't have, but I have missed "real" food for so long, I couldn't help myself, and Gary took me out for dinner (and despite what my meter read, my legs felt like jelly and like I was about to collapse).  I had a hot turkey sandwich, and they gave me LOTS of mashed potatoes.  Normally, I would just have eaten the turkey sandwich...if that (Usually when Gary and I go out, I order salad).  But last night I ate not some, but all of the mashed potatoes, too.  They were soooooooo good. 
 
I suppose, for that misdeed, I deserve the high number this morning, but hell...18 hours later?????
 
I have contacted the hospital about their 'diabetic class' but am still waiting for a reply.  Personally, I don't think my doc is doing too hot of a job on this diabetes thing, either.  When I was first dignoses, he handed me a 'diet' geared more towards people with high cholesterol than with diabetes (it had no sugar numbers on it - just numbers for cholesterol, calories, total fat and saturated fat) and told me to pay attention to the one that said calories, which doesn't help me a whole heck of a lot when dealing with sugar.  It was also redundant, because I have very good cholesterol considering my 'size.'  I do tend to try and eat things that are low fat, and always check the fat and transfat on packaging (I had my gall bladder out 7 years ago, and have done this since then because too much 'fat' in my diet makes me ill).
 
So after that, I went shopping (after that diagnoses...did shopping before dinner last night) and was looking at different 'low/no sugar' products and was wondering about 'natural' treats.  I remember mostly these  Ice bars, made with natural fruit, but said no added sugar.  I thought they might be good for me...Well, I bought them, but decided to wait to ask my doc about them.  When I saw the doc next and asked him about them, he acted like he didn't want to discuss it, and said 'No sugar at all!'  And that was the end of the discussion.  He also seems to have no inclination at all to directing me to any resources that may help me, either.  Never directed me to a dietician or other diabetic specialist.  I guess he expects me to know it all, automatically.
 
I usually have 2 meals a day.  I have pretty much cut out all snacks, and deny myself no matter how much I want something else.  I generally eat a lot of salads, especially since my diagnoses, which generally leaves me making a lot of mad dashes for the washroom afterwards.  I have also been loosing weight steadily, not a lot, but steadily since my diagnoses, which pleases me.
 
I am trying to do this right, but if I eat, my numbers go up.  If I don't eat, my numbers go up.  Doc wants me to stay between 60 and 110.  Lowest I have ever seen was 87, and for a morning number to be below 110...hell, below 120 is a forking miracle that I think I have only achieved 3 times in 4 months!  Thankfully, my pre-dinner numbers are almost always under 110, or I think I would have gone stark raving mad long before now.
 
Yes, I know excersize is in the back of your mind, too.  I don't do a lot.  Hell, I do very little.  It hurts too damn much.  Sorry for my language.  I fell off a horse when I was 16 and injured my back.  Now, 25 years later, its catching up with me.  I have arthritis in my back and I can hardly walk.  I can't even do half a circuit around wally world before the pain drives me to tears.  You know how alone that makes a person feel?  They are dying inside because they hurt so much, tears are streaming down their faces, and people look away and give you a wide berth because you are crying, and don't want to get involved or ask why or ask if they can help.  Even staff are like this!
 
My wheel chair arrived today.
 
I am only 41
 
And I feel all alone.

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From: MSN NicknameBambisMom1Sent: 10/6/2006 3:53 PM
Awww Saleen, I feel so bad that you are hurting so much.  I am in pain a lot of the time from a back injury 30 yrs. ago when I herniated two disks in my back.  I had 4 surgeries, and still have pain on bad days.  I know the changing of the weather can affect my pain level a lot too.
 
I always look for an electric cart at Wally world because I can't walk around the store without getting short of breath so bad that I am wheezing by the time I leave.  I am about 80 lbs overweight, and that just drags me down.  I have started walking my chihuahua in order to get out of the house, get exercise and enjoy the Fall scenery.  Walking takes my mind off a lot of things and I can do it at a very slow pace and as far or near as I choose to go.  My little dog is happy to walk 20 feet or 20 miles just as long as she's by my side, lol.
 
I hope you can get an appointment with a diabetes counselor.  I saw both a counselor and a dietician for my diabetes.  The only thing is that after they throw all that information at you, you still have to decipher and apply it once you get home.  I know I don't eat correctly because I take lots of meds and am just not hungy when I'm supposed to be at meal times, like I get hungry late in the day, so I never want breakfast.
 
I hope you have better days in your life.  I figure life is too short to go through it feeling miserable, so I do little things just for myself to help me feel good.  Here are some of them:  take a bubble bath, wear something that makes you feel snug and comfy, like flannel jammies, crochet a blanket for a friend, read a good book, go visit a friend.
 
Keep your chin up and I hope you feel better soon.
 
Peggy

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From: MSN Nicknamesafk1221Sent: 10/6/2006 5:00 PM
Sorry, Saleen.   I must confess that I very rarely read the journals.  My bad.  I think of them as diaries, and not always for public consumption.  But yours cried out so that Veets posted a message on general, that you needed our help.
Have you considered getting an endocrinologist?  Yeah, I know...not another doctor to give you a hard time.  But an endo can better discuss goals for your blood sugar, and help you with your control.  He can direct you to a diabetic educator, who can help with a diet and "exercise" plan.  From what you said, your current doctor is not that experienced with caring for a diabetic.  There are medications that can help with your glucose control, and some that can also help with weight control.  And despite what you think, there are always ways to move that will aid in you weight loss goals, and sugar control.  You only need to be shown and taught.  And willingness is a big plus.
Your post seemed so unhappy and hopeless.  Those emotions will only add to the physical pain you are in.  And beating yourself up about lapses in control is no good for you.  Instead, try to celebrate your successes.  Peggy gave you some wonderful tips on non-eating ways to reward your accomplishments.  Everyone needs a reward from time to time...so reward yourself in healthy ways.  And try to put a smile on your face!  Even if you don't feel like it.  You'd be surprised how much better you feel.  And it causes less wrinkles than frowning!  See!  You're smiling already!  HUGS!  sheryl

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From: MSN NicknameCuddlesAmISent: 10/6/2006 5:10 PM
Ditto to above posts,, they covered so much of what I was going to say so I won't repeat it,, I too don't read journals much any more... I used to when I was also journaling,, there was a core group of us who wrote pretty much daily or every other day and that worked for a good bit,, but since then I just haven't gotten back into to it,, not enough time in the day right now for me to do so.. but as Sheryl said,, Yours' cried out for help so much that Veets posted on it and I'm glad she did.......
Please don't give up Saleen... instead of eating white bread for breakfast,,, try having some protein mixed in with some wise choice carbs,,,,,,,, and don't beat yourself up over those mashed potatoes,,, we all slip,,, I had chicken wings last night... I too watch my fats very closely and that is a good decision because diabetes have a MUCH higher risk of heart problems... Now when will I have chicken wings again?? Probably in a year or later........
That turkey sandwich wasn't an awful choice,,, now for me the size they serve you in a resturant would be too large and I'd bring half home,,, but you can have a turkey sandwich at home with some good low carb high fiber bread,,,,,,,, and yeah leave the potatoes off,, instead have some fresh veggies or salad as you said,,
 
I hope you can get to a diabetic nutritionalist... and a new doc would be a great idea............
hang in there Honey!
It can bet better,,,,,,,,, and smiling does indeed help it get there........ that why I always try to say it...
Keep smiling, Cuddles

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From: MSN NicknameGrady-of-the-gladeSent: 10/7/2006 5:52 PM
 
  Hi Saleen,
 
 I'm pretty sure I know you from another board we are both on.
I would love to help you out, if there is anything I can do. Seems like we have quite a bit in common.
How long as it been since you were diagnosed?  Learning about this disease is definitely alot like learning how to swim, ride a horse,  anything like that. Its an extended learning experience.
 Alot of people go through stages.. such as.. denial, grief, and finally acceptance at some point. It seems like such a horrible, life altering thing that has happened, and it is.. you have lost part of the function, of an organ in your body. In time though,  it will become second nature for you to control this as much as possible.
Diabetes can be very unpredictable, and that itself makes it so exasperating, especially to the newly diagnosed. You will become accustomed to even the unpredictablility being predictable. Does that make sense?
You will find strengths in yourself that maybe you didnt' even know you had... perseverence, strength, adaptability, just to think of a few. These are some the positive things that can come out of having a life long disease. Another is making some way cool friends.
Right now you might be dealing with the denial and grief stage, and that is perfectly normal. Many diabetics suffer from depression during this time, or at other time periods also. This is alot to deal with, in addition to all that is life.
 
I would love to talk to you gal, if you like. I also posted a note for you on the other group. I can post an email or send it to one of the managers.
 
Hugs
 
Sher

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From: MSN NicknameGrady-of-the-gladeSent: 10/7/2006 5:57 PM
Its me again.    On reading about your slices of bread for breakfast... are you taking insulin to cover for them? Or you on basically just a diet regimine right now?
 
Your jump from 102 to 143 was from the toast. If you would have checked it at 1 or 2 hrs after the toast, you prob. would have been even higher and it started to come down after 4 hrs.
 
Just for example.. in my body.. breads make me go higher than even say.. ice cream.  Everyone is different and eventually you will learn how things affect you.
 
You might want to try switching your breakfast to something like eggs and bacon, maybe only 1/2 piece of toast? Or some fruit or small amount of oatmeal or sugar free yogurt.
 
Just some ideas.
 
Hugs,
 
Sher

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From: MSN Nicknamekatydidflyaway1947Sent: 10/8/2006 2:19 AM
Saleen
 
Your body is in a chemical inbalance.  The body needs fuel and that fuel needs to enter the cell to feed your body.  I am going out on a limb here as I want you to follow your doctor but for one if he is saying NO SUGAR at all he is a stupid doctor as all food contains a type of sugar except meat and it only takes longer for it to break down to a form of sugar to the cells.
 
Balance is the key.  The up and down shocking your body is what is making you feel like H.  Asking you to keep your bg at 60 or a little above is seemingly not right for you as an individual.  You can not also exercise if you have no fuel in your body and cells.  You must eat and eat the same in protein, carbs, and fiber plus water everyday at the same times each day.  Even if you can only walk around the house tidying up here and there do it everyday until your body comes into a chemical balance then you can do a little more moving about.
 
You can not skip meals at this stage you are in.  Eat healthy foods even in snacks.  I know it is very hard to do.  It is hard for me.
 
Do you have a Reg. Dietition?  You need carbs and protein at every meal.  The portions vary according to height and activity and age.
 
Are you sleeping?  I mean getting into rem-- stage each night.  That can affect your chemical balance as well.  The body is like a machine and it needs to be fueled.
 
I would try another doctor and ask to see a Reb. Dietition not a nutritionist or the doctor.  They will make out a meal plan that suits your needs.
 
When I go off my routine my chemical balance goes whacko and I feel tired, nausteated, and plain sick like I had the case of really bad flu.  I know how you feel and you can not exercise feeling like you do and exercise even in a small form helps your body use the food as fuel.  You sound like you are being starved into a low bg which is not the way out of the stage you are in.
 
Believe me I know how you feel.  When I get off my routine and meal regime I have some very bad days to follow but I go right back to what I should do and I get better.  I vowed no one or nothing would make be go off my routine and I have stuck to is even on vacation.
 
I am so sorry you are feeling so awful and I know it seems impossible to get out of the hole you are in but you can do it.
 
Call you doctor often and tell him how you feel.
 
Hugs and don't give up the fight
Katy

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