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Pump/Pen ??'s : How did you get ur pump?
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From: k8t  (Original Message)Sent: 1/29/2007 6:52 PM
hello
I was wondering what criteria you all had to pass to get your pump? i am in the uk and seen my care team today and was told i have to attend a DAFNE course before the doctor will even consider putting my name through to the PCT. The course is run twice a yr and this yr is full, so i have to wait till July 2008!
 
in america, have you had to pass any criteria tests? has it been a huge struggle to be allowed a pump?
 
I am so dis hartened.
 
please let me know your views
 
Kate


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From: MSN NicknameMrsMaryBSent: 1/29/2007 9:31 PM
Kate I'm not on the pump so I can't anser your question..hope someone that is on it sees you post so they can give you som ideas. I know everyone that has been on them that I've heard from all say its wonderful, I also heard the pump is quite expensive.Thats awful that  you have to wait so long before you can take that course.  
 
MaryB

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From: MSN NicknameGelsey2003Sent: 1/29/2007 10:35 PM
Here in the US you usually need a doctors medical necessity note or prescription so to speak for the pump.
Often they ask for blood sugars to prove you need the better control and sometimes they have you take classes in carb counting so you know what you are doing.
My suggestion would be to contact the main companies (you can find a list at www.diabetesnet.com or www.integrateddiabetes.com) and then have them do some work for you.
The best way to get the best deal and help is to have both your doctor on your side and a pump company of your choice working for you.
BTW, the above links have pump comparison charts and usually a contact number for the company itself.
You can also get this info and lots of help at www.insulin-pumpers.org.
 

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From: MSN Nicknamemark37intorontoSent: 7/16/2007 4:54 AM
Kate..in Canada, all I had to do was get an endocrinologist's "letter of medical necessity" to send to my work's insurance co. for them to approve the cost of an insulin pump for me (they covered 94% of the cost).  Please note I'm one of the lucky ones who have medical insurance (thru work) to pay for the pump cost, along with pump supplies (100% reimbursed), test strips are 80% covered but hey let's not push it...
 
Anyways...no I don't have to pass any "criteria" according to any insurance policy, but I have had low hypo reactions (3 incidents in last 2 years, where I passed out cold, including once at work due to hypo unawareness) so maybe that was mentioned on the doc's letter, I don't know.
 
 

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From: MSN Nicknamedavidrr07_Sent: 7/16/2007 1:11 PM
Here's what I had to show:

Medically Necessary:

External insulin pumps are considered medically necessary for diabetic patients in any of the following groups:

  1. Patients with documented diabetes mellitus meeting all the following criteria (a-f):
    1. Patient has been seen by their medical provider four times within the last year; and
    2. Completed a comprehensive diabetes education program within the past two years; and
    3. Follows a program of multiple daily injections of insulin; and
    4. Has frequent self-adjustments of insulin doses for the past 6 months; and
    5. Has documented frequency of glucose self-testing an average of at least 4 times per day during the past month; and
    6. Has documentation of any of the following while on a multiple daily injection regimen:
      1. Glycosylated hemoglobin level (HbAlc) > 7.0 percent; or
      2. “Brittle�?diabetes mellitus with recurrent episodes of diabetic ketoacidosis, hypoglycemia or both, resulting in recurrent and/or prolonged hospitalization; or
      3. History of recurring hypoglycemia or severe glycemic excursions; or
      4. Wide fluctuations in blood glucose before mealtime; or
      5. “Dawn phenomenon�?with fasting blood sugars frequently exceeding 200 mg/dl.
  2. Pre- conception or pregnancy to reduce the incidence of fetal mortality or anomaly; or
  3. The patient with diabetes mellitus successfully using a continuous insulin infusion pump prior to enrollment has documented frequency of glucose self-testing on average of at least 4 times per day during the month prior to enrollment.

Not Medically Necessary:

The use of external insulin pumps for any indication other than those listed above is considered not medically necessary.

 

Insulin Infusion Pump Procedure Review Form

Patient Name: _________________

 ID#:_____________________________

Patient Date of Birth: __________________________

Pump supplier name or ID#: _______________________________

Reason for Insulin Pump

Diagnosis:

 Diabetes Type I

Years _______

Complications: ______________________

 Diabetes Type II

Years _______

Complications: ______________________

Insulin regimen:

Year insulin was started

(Type) ____________

(Dosage) _______

(Frequency)  ____________________

(Type) ____________

(Dosage) _______

(Frequency)  ____________________

Most recent HbA1c level: _________

Date: __________________________


I attest that there is documentation in the patient’s medical record confirming the information checked below:

  1. The patient has completed a comprehensive diabetes education program in the last 2 years

 yes

 no

  1. Self monitoring of blood sugar, 4 times per day for the past month, has occurred and is supported by submission of sugar levels from monitoring

 yes

 no

  1. History of recurrent repeated clinical episodes of hypoglycemia or ketoacidosis.

 yes

 no

  1. Patients (or for children, their caregivers) who willing and able to actively participate in intensive glucose management and to acquire the cognitive and technical skills required by their diabetes regimen.

 yes

 no

  1. Glycosylated hemoglobin level (HbA1c) greater than 7.0%

 yes

 no

  1. Diagnosis of pre-conception or pregnancy diabetes.

 yes

 no

  1. The patient has been seen by the medical provider four times within the last year and demonstrated documented evidence of 6 months of insulin therapy.

 yes

 no

  1. Wide fluctuations in blood glucose before mealtime.

 yes

 no

  1. “Dawn phenomenon�?with fasting blood glucose frequently exceeding 200mg/dl

 yes

 no


Printed name of ordering Physician: ___________________________

Signature of ordering Physician: ______________________________

Date: _____________

Return decision to: __________________________________________

Phone: ____________

Fax:     ____________

CERTIFICATE OF MEDICAL NECESSITY


PATIENT INFORMATION

Patient Name:

DOB:

Sex:

SSN:

Address:

Phone (day)

City/State/Zip

Phone (night)

Subscriber Name:

(Please send copy of insurance card)

Primary Insurance:        

Secondary Insurance:

Policy #:                      

Policy#:

Group:

Group:

Insurance Phone #:

Insurance Phone #:

Employer:

STATEMENT OF MEDICAL NECESSITY

Diabetes type: Type 1:               Type 2:                    Gestational:                 Duration:

# Insulin shots/day in last 6 months:       

# Glucose checks/day: 

Fluctuation of blood glucose values: 
mg/dl

Date:                   HbA1c:               

Current Diabetic Complications:

25091 Type 1 IDDM

25061 Gastroparesis (type 1)

25081  Hypoglycemia (type 1)

25051  Retinopathy

Any emergency room visits/hospital admissions related to diabetes in the 2yrs (give detail incl. date, duration:

Additional Notes:

Is this person capable of using an insulin pump safely and effectively? 

If this patient is not on multi-dose insulin injection regimen, why is an insulin pump being recommended rather than multi-dose insulin injection?

I certify that the above patient demonstrates one or more of the following:
  1. Hemoglobin HbA1C level is 7.0% or 1% over upper range of normal
  2. History of severe glycemic excursions (commonly associated with brittle diabetes, hypoglycemic unawareness, nocturnal hypoglycemia, extreme insulin sensitivity and/or very low insulin requirements.)
  3. Wide fluctuations in preprandial BG levels (e.g., levels commonly exceed 100 mg.dl.)
  4. Dawn phenomenon where fasting blood glucose level often exceeds 200 mg/dl.
  5. Day-to-day variations in work schedule, mealtimes and/or activity level, which confound the degree of regimentation required to self- manage glycemia with multiple insulin injections.
  6. History of suboptimal glycemic control before or during pregnancy.
  7. Suboptimal glycemic and metabolic control after renal transplantation.
  8. Poor glycemic control evidenced by CGMS sensing.

SUPPORTING CRITERIA

Member has demonstrated ability to self-monitor blood glucose levels > 4x/day
Member is motivated to achieve and maintain improved glycemic control

PHYSICIAN INFORMATION

Physician: 
Hospital/Clinic:
Address: 
City/State/Zip: 

Office Contact:
Phone #: 
Fax #:
UPIN #: 

This document serves as a Prescription and Statement of Medical Necessity for the above referenced patient for a Medtronic MiniMed insulin infusion pump, pump supplies, and diabetes supplies.

Signature: 

 

Date:

 

 


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From: JulieSent: 7/16/2007 1:11 PM
Kate,
In the US, you would have to use the expression "it depends."  It depends on your insurance company, and of course your doctor who has to write the prescription for it.  But in the US, you can always change doctors to get one who will prescribe it for you.  And sometimes you even have a choice of insurance companies.  My employer offers a choice of about 15 different insurance plans for me to choose from.  And then IF the insurance company denies you something, you can always appeal it.  They rarely deny you something like a pump if you appeal, because they don't want to be sued.  Sometimes they just want you to go through some hoops first.
 
So as you and Mark can see, the US has a health care system based on capitalism in the extreme.  At the same time, for those who have insurance and can afford the co-pays, we may also have more freedom of choice here.
 
When I got my pump  my insurance required 3 things:
1.  Doctor prescription and letter of medical necessity
2.  A1C had to be above 7
3.  Had to be testing at least 4 times a day and on at least 3 shots a day of insulin
 
I met all those requirements, but if my A1C was not as high as it was, I probably could have appealed and used facts such as hypoglycemic unawareness to get it approved.
 
Good luck to you Kate and sorry you have to wait so long.
 
Julie
 
P.S.  I just noticed this is an Old post - from January, so perhaps Kate has already found a solution.

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From: JulieSent: 7/16/2007 1:29 PM
Hey David!  Good to see you again!  What pump are you using these days?
 
Julie

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From: MSN Nicknamedavidrr07_Sent: 7/17/2007 9:51 PM
Heya Julie,

I'm now using a Cozmo 1800 after upgrading from a 1700 in March. It's been working great.

David

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