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Pump/Pen ??'s : I called Novo Nordisk about insulin (48 hours)
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From: Mikalas75  (Original Message)Sent: 11/29/2007 11:37 PM
Ok I called Novo Nordisk to ask why the Novolog is only good for 48 hours in a pump.  The rep didn't know and said the pharmacist could answer but they weren't available after 5 pm eastern time and of course it's 3 here pacific time. So she took my information down and said a pharmacist would call me tomorrow morning around 9 am my time.  I'm curious to see what they have to say! I'll let you know what I hear.
 
Michelle


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From: MSN NicknameGelsey2003Sent: 12/1/2007 4:53 AM
I'll bet they say it to protect themselves.
If people end up with extremely high BG and acidosis, they could easily put blame on someone and Novo could be it.
But they cant deny the fact that many of us get as good a result from insulin whether it is in there for one day or five or even 7!

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From: Mikalas75Sent: 12/1/2007 9:47 PM
Well the pharmacist called me as promised.  Basically what she said was that the main reason they say to change it every 48 hours is because pump companies recommend changing the infusion site every 48 hours.  They have not done any tests on insulin going bad because of plastic cartridges but she did say they did do a test with 8 people who kept the site and insulin in for 5 days and some noticed elevated blood sugars so there is potential for the insulin to lose its potency.  I told her I've kept my insulin for 10 days in my old cartridges with no effects and that I wasn't aware of anyone who kept their site in for just 2 days and I kept mine in for 4 days.  She just said it's recommened to change it by 72 hours and that's about it.  I was just there thinking they've only done a test with 8 people!  You can't make any judegments based on that.  I do market research, which I know is different, but it really isn't anything statistically valid with such few people.  I guess as long as it continues to work for us then I'm just going to keep mine in for a longer time and continue to change my site every 4 days as I have for the past 5 years.  So that's it.
 
Michelle :)

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From: JulieSent: 12/1/2007 10:01 PM
The reason some people had high blood sugars after 5 days could have nothing to do with the potency of the insulin.  It more likely had to do with absorption issues from the site going bad or possibly scar tissue beginning to form, which some people say starts forming after 72 hours.
 
Julie

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From: MSN NicknameCynceejean2Sent: 1/26/2008 1:46 PM
I agree with Julie. It makes since to me to change the site after 2 to 3 days. I maynot be a pump user yet but am seriously thinking about it. I had asked the nurse practiciouner how often I would have to change the site area if on the pump she said 2 to 3 days because of the possiblity of infection within the site area. Think about it if you have ever taken injections you never gave yourself the injection in the exact same spot everytime you took your shot? So why would you do it on something that is sitting in your body for 2 ot 3 days.
 
Also think of it as an IV. Okay I have had plenty of those as well in my earlier days of being diabetic type 1. They would change that site out depending upon how good my veins were every 3 to 4 days or they would come in and flush it to make sure that the fluids were flowing properly.
 
After 24 years it is all starting to make more since to me then it did 10 to 15 years ago.
 
Cyndi

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From: ctdeputySent: 1/27/2008 8:59 PM
Pumper for 2+ years. The CDC recommends changing infusion sets every 2 days, concern is infection. Medtronic says (said?) every 3 days. I fill reservoir and let chips fall where they may, 3 to 5 days. Site may slow absorbtion on third day. Web site insulin-pumpers.org (free) has statistics on all these concerns.

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From: MSN NicknameGelsey2003Sent: 2/2/2008 4:11 AM
The pump companies all say two days.  They want to make money.
I go about four to five and am just fine.
Started having more itching lately, and after 7 years of pumping I think it's more annoying than anything.
Some folks just do really have major infections and problems and some dont.
I think two days though, is too many.
The Cozmo has a nice reminder for site changes and I think the max. it goes up to is five days.

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