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From: MSN NicknameFortun83  (Original Message)Sent: 3/6/2007 8:25 PM
Is there any dangers of taking Dandelion root to help stabalize blood sugars? has anyone had any experience of this?


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From: MSN NicknameFortun83Sent: 3/18/2007 12:06 PM
Hi Sheryl, Thanks for your response. I am not planning on a replacement but merely an extra. I have been using Metformin tablet to control my type 2 diabetis, however I was diagnosed three years ago but had always controlled it by diet alone until my doctor tells me he is not satisfied with the results. I had too many peaks and troughs. The tablet has worked in that it has reduced over the past three weeks of taking them but still high, I live in Ireland and my reading is 7.4 it was over 9 three weeks ago. It hits an 8 some mornings. I read an article re Dandelion root and it's properties especially with regards to Diabetics and thought the dandelion coffee might be a bonus.will I ever get to the stage where it remains at a constant or am I trying to achieve the unachievable. Thanks again Lawrence

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From: MSN Nicknamenewby556Sent: 3/19/2007 1:16 AM
Lawrence,
  Well, Happy St. Patty's day to ya!  My great grandparents came from County Cork, or County of Cork or Cork County.... that's all I know about the country except St. Patty's Day was a big deal at our house when I was growing up ,....lol...
   I'm interested in what the dandelion coffee tastes like.  Can you give me any kind of description of it?  If it's beyond description, that's okay.  It's nice to meet ya!  Peace,Cheryl

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From: MSN NicknameFortun83Sent: 3/19/2007 8:37 PM
Hi Cherly,

Thanks for the St.Patrick's day greetings. My Grandad also was a Cork man. Dandelion coffee, tastes nothing like coffee, it has a sweet taste , it tastes like a herb infusion.
but colours like coffee only a bit greyer, if this can be pictured.
Try to think of it not as coffee but a drink like tea or coffee.
I actually like the taste but then to control my blood sugars I stopped eating any sweet stuff some time ago so this is a treat without the sugar or sweetener. But I can not stress enough the only similarity is the jar. My BS today were 6.8 (119)

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From: MSN NicknameFortun83Sent: 3/19/2007 9:04 PM
Sorry I ought to stress that I do not believe that drinking Dandelion coffee has any effect on my BS number. This is solely due to the medication Metformin that I have been taking. Just in case anyone thinks that the coffee drink has any contribution, it just tastes good.
Lawrence

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From: MSN Nicknamenewby556Sent: 3/21/2007 10:15 PM
Lawrence,
   Forgive me for my ignorance....an herbal infusion is what?  How did the dandelion coffee come?  like coffee grounds? Do you steep it like one does a tea bag? I find it most interesting that you can drink it without any sweetner and that you actually consider it a treat.  That's hard to find with diabetes....anything that tastes like a "treat."  lol 
I understand that the dandelion drink might not be having any effect on your bs numbers but I truly believe that herbs can help us in a variety of different ways and I also believe that in the overall picture, it will in some way be helping your bs numbers.  But...that's me. 
So your Grandad was a Cork man.  I've never heard that term before....it's pretty cool.  I almost feel like we're related!  lol
My family's last name is Shannon...a bit Irish.
Do take care of yourself....and keep in touch.  Peace,Cheryl

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From: MSN NicknameFortun83Sent: 3/23/2007 9:20 AM
Hi Chyrel,
I believe that as "Dandelion coffee" comes from the dried root of the dandelion, it would be classed as a herbal drink.  I did buy it in a "whole food shop" it comes in a jar just as instant coffee does but you can buy it in larger quantities in cans probably just like Nescafe.  It does take rather a lot three to four teaspoons of the dried granuals per cup; you do add milk 1% type and sweetner if desired, I think it is sweet enough as is. It can be bought quite easy on the internet but the price is usually more than it is possible to buy locally, if you have a whole food shop and of course no postage.
I live in the North of Ireland, My Mum came from Dublin and my grandad from Cork, My mum married my dad from Belfast and came to live in the North.
People in Ireland would refer to others as a "Kerry Man" or a Cork Man depending which county he came from,  but if for example he came from Dublin he would simply be known as a Dubliner.
Shannon is a proper Irish name, can't get better than one of the biggest rivers in Ireland for a name.
My Bs is still going up and down yesterday it was 6.7 (120) today 7.4(133) and the diet much the same. Three weeks ago it was very high and started taking Metformin,
I ought to be pleased but used to level better before tablets and eat a more varied fare.
Does get frustrating this number watching.
 
Take care
Lawrence

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From: MSN Nicknamebigms71Sent: 7/27/2007 6:35 AM
Hello group. My name is Matt and i'm new to group. i have learned and have heard from people working at GNC, that cinnamon lowers blood sugar levels in type 2 diabetics. Or stabilizes it? I used to take and still do sometimes. I never really tested over a period of time taking cinnamon to see if it helped or not? I do believe in taking herbs and vitamins to help us naturally. Also I heard from a dr. that Vit. C helps by transferring insulin to your cells. But, I'm not a dr. So this is just advice that has helped me and I am trying to add my opinions also. Thanks, Matt. Also, as far as your liver goes, milk thistle has been proven to help detox liver. Thanks.

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From: MSN Nicknamenewby556Sent: 7/27/2007 6:15 PM
Geez Matt....I just lost the response I wrote to your post....grrrrrr....I just wanted to welcome you to the group.  I'm Cheryl that was in conversation with Lawrence from up above.  I've been a T1 for 33 yrs. and have no complications from diabetes.
I wanted to invite you to all of our boards... we don't limit our conversations to just diabetes....on the general board you will see all kinds of discussions along with the subjective discussions such as this one.  Every morning on the T2 board, we all post our bs's there...it's like a good day...I'm here thing....it's elective so don't feel you have to do it....it's just nice to see everyone every day. 
I hope you feel comfortable in the group.  It is a very caring and supportive group of people.  If you have any questions or concerns or opinions on anything, feel free to start a thread or jump in on one that is going.
I will copy your post here over on the general board so more members will see it and know that you've joined our group.  I saw your pics that you posted this morning and was wondering if you were new.  So check out our boards....and join in....discussions are welcome (although we do stay away from politics and religion)    So I hope to see you around.  see ya.  Peace,Cheryl

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From: MSN Nicknamebigms71Sent: 7/29/2007 8:50 AM
Hello Cheryl. This is Matt. the new guy!lol. I got your message and thank you for the welcome. I actually have been having difficulties with my diabetes or "complications". Hopefully, now slowly, I will begin to get "back on track"? I have recently gained weight from not exercising, eating a more"liberal" diet. I was on a strict diet and working out with weights and was loosing weight and getting into better shape. Also, my sugar levels were dropping. But, recently, they have rose. So, I'm planning on slowly working out and watching what i eat again and trying to loose weight and lower levles. I also have high b.p., cholesterol, fatty liver and high liver enzymes. Which I don't know if you are allowed to address those other issues in this room? So, I will try to check out T2 in the morning sometime o.k.? Thanks, Matt.     

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From: MSN Nicknamenewby556Sent: 7/29/2007 6:00 PM
Matt....there's nothing wrong with talking about anything anywhere...the only difference is how many people will see it.  There are a few of us that look at any thread that has a new post because people do talk about alot of things and sometimes they start talking about one subject, someone else adds something and before you know it, everybody is OT (off topic) from where they started.  (which is okay) So the general board is monitored by most everybody and any discussion you might like to start or join in on will be more likely to happen there.  But do come over to the T2 morning sign in....just to say hello if you don't want to post your readings.
Something you will find out Matt, is that there isn't anyone here that is judgmental about where any of us are on our journey(s).  Like if you would have posted what you said to me, more than likely members would have come back with them having done the same thing or are in the same place.  We all get off course, we all eat things we shouldn't eat... most of us should lose weight....but we share, we laugh and try to get on course.
There's alot of people here at different stages of health/complications from diabetes.  I don't know if you've seen Sheryl around....she just had her 4th kidney transplant last Feb....she's had a pancreas transplant which didn't take..she's lost an eye...she has a bunch of stuff wrong with her...she will be 50 this year and I believe she was diagnosed at 15.  But she will be the first to tell you that she was very destructive diabetic through most of her life.  But everyone is so open about what they've been through so don't feel worried about sharing such things.  Like I've said, we've all been there and we all walk in similar footsteps.
One thing I will offer here as if you start posting someone will mention it, if you could use a size 4 or 5 font when you post, it will allow our members with eyesight problems to read your post easier.  Light colored fonts or small fonts are harder for some of our members to see...but other than that, Matt..  jump in.  We're all friends here.  So hope to see ya on T2 and wherever.  Take care....
Peace,Cheryl

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From: MSN Nicknameardeer_pointSent: 8/7/2007 5:50 PM
Hello,
 
I am new to the group, newly diagnosed as well.
Dandelion root "coffee" is simply dandlion roots that are harvested in Autumn when the nutrients of the plant descend to the root after it has leaved, flowered and seeded.
 
The roots are dug at that time when the medicinal properties are highest (highest in the root, that is).  The are then dried, and gently roasted, then chopped into pieces and ground for "coffee".  This beverage was sold widely in general stoes until the 1940s or so when sales began to wane.  I use the roasted ground roots in a small espresso maker.  The roots are very rich in nutrients and minerals and promote bile production in the liver.
 
I drink a cup or two of dandelion coffee at night before going to bed since it is very relaxing, and it can nourish and protect my body as I sleep, when the body does most of its repair.
 
Two cautions:  The instant preparations in the health food stores often contain other ingredients to make the beverage more palatable, and one of these is often beet root.  Beet root is very high in sugar (one of the sources we get granulated sugar from other than sugar cane).  This may raise your glucose.
 
Also, never consume any herbal preparation before checking with your doc.  Unfortunately, most docs haven't a clue as to what is out there and what the effects on diabetes or the body in general are - so they just tell you to stay away from all herbs - even some that can help you.  Nevertheless, consult your doc, dietician or, hopefully, naturopath.  Herbs have been used in Chinese medicine forever, and are still being used.  Maybe, if you are trying the herb and supplement route, a traditional Chinese practioner might be a way to go.
 
If you intend to try digging your own roots, do NOT dig them if you have used pesticides on your lawn in the last seven years.  Do not dig them by the roadside since the fumes from passing cars can be toxic.  Only dig them from places you know are safe from toxins.
 
Other than that, dandelion is a free, highly nutritious food and all parts of the plant are edible and very nourishing.  The young leaves can be picked in spring for salads.  The mature leaves can be used like spinach, sauteed or baked with lasagne.  The unoped buds can be added to stirfrys, and the open flowers can be made into a healing syrup for pancakes and waffles (it does contain sugar but a wee bit now and then if you have good control might be ok for some folks or give as gifts).
 
The plant has been eaten and otherwise consumed for millenia with no side effects other than idiosyncratic allergies and reaction.
 

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From: MSN Nicknamenewby556Sent: 8/7/2007 6:48 PM
Thanks for all the info on the dandelion.  So they are good for other things other than cursing them for seeding your weed free lawn? lol...  I agree with all of your thoughts...esp. the area about physicians wanting to poo-poo herbal treatments for conditions.  I don't know where you are located but here in the States most physicians don't even want to approach the subject of herbal medicines.
I grew up in a city with many Italians and you could always tell when spring arrived because you would see hundreds of older Italians out in fields getting those young dandelion plants as you were driving around.
Are you from the UK cause the member that started this conversation is from Ireland?  It seems the US is either way behind the times as far as herb usuage goes or just plain ignorant of their benefits.  
Anyway, thanks for posting  and I hope to see you around the boards more often.  Are you T1, T1.5 or T2?  It makes no difference as far as the board goes, just wondering what meds you are on for your bs control.  If you test daily (or not), you are welcome to stop by the T2 board daily to say hello or post your bloodsugar readings.  Daily some members drop in and share a hello or their readings.  There's always many conversations going on the general board too....we don't always talk about diabetes.   Please feel free to join in.  Post often and post any questions, concerns or smiles you'd like to share with us.  This is a wonderful group of supportive people here.
Take care.....Peace,Cheryl

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From: MSN Nicknamenewby556Sent: 8/7/2007 6:52 PM
and I forgot to mention...(I mentioned this to Matt up above and most new members are offered this suggestion as I was when I joined) if you could use a size 4 or 5 font when you post, it will allow our members with eyesight problems to read your post easier.  Light colored fonts or small fonts are harder for some of our members to see and with some having had diabetes for a good number of years, they can't read smaller or lighter fonts.  No biggie....see ya.

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From: sarahQSent: 8/7/2007 9:45 PM
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From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknameardeer_point</NOBR> Sent: 07/08/2007 17:50
Hello,
 
I am new to the group, newly diagnosed as well.
Dandelion root "coffee" is simply dandlion roots that are harvested in Autumn when the nutrients of the plant descend to the root after it has leaved, flowered and seeded.
 
The roots are dug at that time when the medicinal properties are highest (highest in the root, that is).  The are then dried, and gently roasted, then chopped into pieces and ground for "coffee".  This beverage was sold widely in general stoes until the 1940s or so when sales began to wane.  I use the roasted ground roots in a small espresso maker.  The roots are very rich in nutrients and minerals and promote bile production in the liver.
 
I drink a cup or two of dandelion coffee at night before going to bed since it is very relaxing, and it can nourish and protect my body as I sleep, when the body does most of its repair.
 
Two cautions:  The instant preparations in the health food stores often contain other ingredients to make the beverage more palatable, and one of these is often beet root.  Beet root is very high in sugar (one of the sources we get granulated sugar from other than sugar cane).  This may raise your glucose.
 
Also, never consume any herbal preparation before checking with your doc.  Unfortunately, most docs haven't a clue as to what is out there and what the effects on diabetes or the body in general are - so they just tell you to stay away from all herbs - even some that can help you.  Nevertheless, consult your doc, dietician or, hopefully, naturopath.  Herbs have been used in Chinese medicine forever, and are still being used.  Maybe, if you are trying the herb and supplement route, a traditional Chinese practioner might be a way to go.
 
If you intend to try digging your own roots, do NOT dig them if you have used pesticides on your lawn in the last seven years.  Do not dig them by the roadside since the fumes from passing cars can be toxic.  Only dig them from places you know are safe from toxins.
 
Other than that, dandelion is a free, highly nutritious food and all parts of the plant are edible and very nourishing.  The young leaves can be picked in spring for salads.  The mature leaves can be used like spinach, sauteed or baked with lasagne.  The unoped buds can be added to stirfrys, and the open flowers can be made into a healing syrup for pancakes and waffles (it does contain sugar but a wee bit now and then if you have good control might be ok for some folks or give as gifts).
 
The plant has been eaten and otherwise consumed for millenia with no side effects other than idiosyncratic allergies and reaction.
 
Reposted  due to the size of org post

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From: MSN Nicknamelaptom1Sent: 6/18/2008 3:48 PM
Dandilion is safe and some people use the leaves and flowers in their salads.  I is not native to the United States, but was imported here from European settlers hundreds of years ago. 
I would like to add a cautionary word to using herbal supplements.  Always check the sources.  Some preparations for diabetes imported from China and india have been adulterated with an old sulfanilurea.  So it does indeed lower glucose but drastically increases stroke/heartattack potential.  Pay attenjtion to how you feel after taking anything new.
 
Now, I would like to mention Alpha Lipoic Acid.  my wife has all the complications of diabetes.  She takes 200 - 400 mg per day and she reports all her symptoms have improved dramatically.  also, her Glucose levels are easier to control. 
 
Everyone owes it to themselves to try this for a week.  The cheap stuff from walmart works just fine.  One word of caution,  take it with food.  I "dry holed" it the first time I took it and it felt like battery acid in my stomach.
 
sincerely
danny

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