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Military Talk : My son in the Marines
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From: MSN NicknameAngelbear1231  (Original Message)Sent: 9/10/2005 7:23 PM
The regular members know my story, the newbies won't so I will summarize a bit. There are old posts back in January somewhere and onward about it all.  My son was 18 and moved out into his friends family home across the golfcourse in January because he dind't want to listen to me and wanted all freedom, etc. and he has lots of issues besides, went off medication for ADHD,  Fetal Alcohol Effects from his birth mom  pathological liar etc. He joined the Marines then told me, went into BootCamp in July. We have been communicating before he left but it was for the most part very hard on me.
 
I had been receiving lots of letters from him and I was writing all the time. When I returned from Missouri I had 4 letters of his waiting for me. They all were very puzzling to me and all had questions around his Marine graduation. He first changed the dates on his graduation which I quickly made a call and found out he was wrong, no date changes for it. Then he kept saying I didn't have to attend because he knows its at the same time I go to Orlando each year for my other sons Taekwondo and vacation. He also kept mentioning that he wasn't sure if the "other family" was coming or not for sure but they might. With all else he wrote I felt he was hinting for me not to come. The other main issue for me was wondering if the parents of his friend he lived with would be attending. I would not want to share that day with them nor see them or ever speak to them based on many things I know regarding them. My son knows how much I am hurt by them and the entire situation of his living there. He always put them ahead of his Dad and me, purposely trying to hurt us, after he moved out.  But, I left it all in the air for the time being since he left for BootCamp. I started reading about the graduation online and started feeling such pride for him to be able to accomplish this goal in his life. I love my son very much. I thought about how I could go to Orlando, fly out on the days I needed and return to Orlando not missing either of my sons special days. I have been so torn between going to the graduation not knowing if the other family would attend or not. I do know that after the graduation he would return to Illinois to their home to see them and his friends and he never mentioned he would come to see me in Missouri if I have moved by then, no plans for it. So what I would be doing would be flying in to see him graduate and if the other family was there he would fly home home with them, something I could not mentally handle with all the past history.
 
My suspicions were confirmed a week ago Sunday morning when the phone rang. It was my son and he had a 2 minute phone call. He wanted to know if I was coming to graduation or not. I asked him if the other family was coming and he said YES. I asked him if he would ask them not to attend so his Dad and I would be comfortable coming, he said NO. I asked him if he wanted the other family there that bad and he said YES. I told him I would write him a letter over it and not waste the seconds we had left on the phone. He told me he wanted us there to.
 
Its hard to post every detail online here but I must admit I am extremely hurt by all of this. I cannot go to his graduation knowing they will be there and he will leave with them like he's their son, not mine. Its such a slap in the face along with the history I have of my son. To know he only called me to ask if I was coming then to say he won't tell them not to come really hurt me. 
 
I wrote him a letter and let me tell you this was a letter from my heart leaving nothing out, reminding him of the latest things he has done to me that we never discussed. One of the main things is when I found out he lied to me saying the Recruitter had to drive him to the hotel the night he left for BootCamp and I could not, only to find out he had a party by that family and THEY took him to the hotel 3 hours after he told me he was gone and 3 of his friends went to. I was told to always write upbeat letters to my son to keep his spirits up but I've had it. He is still crapping and lying to me from BootCamp and now I wrote him I felt. Like my sister said, "its only BOOTCAMP, not Iraq." 
 
I have thought and thought over everything in my life with this kid. My dh says he definitely will not go to the graduation if the other family is there and feels I shouldn't go because I would be to hurt tremendously but this time facing them. Something I would be so proud to go and watch will not happen. I cannot go through that.
 
I vented long and windy here, sorry.  I am waiting for him to respond to my letter I sent out last week. We will see how he responds now


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From: MSN NicknamepandaesquireSent: 9/10/2005 9:46 PM

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From: MSN NicknameNanny8191Sent: 9/10/2005 10:29 PM
               ANGLEBEAR I AM SO SORRY THIS IS HAPPENING. I ALSO DO NOT WALK IN YOUR SHOES. I CAN ONLY SAY, I AM DEALING WITH A SON, MY YOUNGEST, THAT WILL NOT SPEAK TO ME, ONLY IF NESSACARY. BUT......I ALWAYS TELL MY DIL....DONT FORGET TO TELL MY BEAUTIFUL SON THAT I LOVE HIM. I WILL NOT LET HIS CHOICSES GET TO ME.  HURT ???THERE IS NO OTHER HURT LIKE IT.  MY PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES.  WHAT WOULD I DO????.....OOOOHHH GIRL.....I WOULD GO AND SPIT IN THEIR FACES IF THEY EVEN LOOK WRONG AT ME........BUT.....  THATS ME. IM SORRY, BUT NO ONE MESSES WITH MY KIDS. ASK SOME OF HIS TEACHERS !!!  YOU HANG IN THER LADY. 
        JOYCE

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From: mstrebks1Sent: 9/11/2005 1:32 AM
 I would go. I know you would end up regreting not to go. I'm with Joyce. Let people know he is your son. We have been here for you all the way. Good luck in whatever you decide.  bonnie

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From: MSN NicknameAngelbear1231Sent: 9/11/2005 2:42 AM
I know you all are right. Its nothing I haven't said myself. I have not told my son if I will go or not yet.  I told him it was complicated and hurtful and I would let him know before graduation in October. (22) I want to go but I am so afraid of what it will do to me as well. These people that took my son in are trash in every way. I only have seen them once since he moved out and that was when I was driving down the street and they were in their yard. I can't tell you what that did to me knowing my son lived there with them. It tore me inside out. Being at his graduation, seeing them, would definitely stir me up in many emotional ways and that is what I am afraid of. I just don't see how I can do it but decided to let time pass and get closer to the graduation and see what happens to my feelings. Then theres the entire other issue with my sons disrespect towards us when he sees it fitting and so cocky with life and loving all his extra attention. I have always tried to do what is right as his Mom so I knew I had done everything I should but I am totally stumped with this. He has hurt me so much this year over and over again.
 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknamePenny_PASent: 9/11/2005 3:34 PM
No easy answer to this one, is there?   *HUGS*
 
 

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From: AllearsSent: 9/11/2005 3:49 PM
Wanda ! It's all up to you ! But remember It only happens once........ This Graduation .......May you find the path for you to follow thru this difficult situation. Hugs and love Allears

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From: MSN NicknamepandaesquireSent: 9/11/2005 4:47 PM
I know that it must be very painful for you. But, do no give the "trash" the satifaction of knowing that they have been successful in keeping you away.  Your son wants you to be there.  That speaks volumes even though he has caused you such pain.  If he truly wants you there and you do not go, it will make him closer to those people.  I would hold my head high and even speak to them.  Shock them with your grace and dignity.  They certainly have none.
 
My thoughts will be with you and all the Divas can rally around you and send our best wishes for you while you are there.
 

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From: MSN NicknameGretchensmom2Sent: 9/11/2005 5:52 PM
Whatever you decision please know that we all stand with you to offer strength or a shoulder to cry on. It sounds like we have all been through this one way or another.Be strong! hold your head high & don't let others deter you you from what you want to do.
Adele

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From: MSN NicknameNanny8191Sent: 9/11/2005 10:53 PM
                 MY HEART AND PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU ANGELBEAR. ONE THING FOR SURE THE MARINES ARE GOING TO GROW THIS YOUNG MAN UP. IT JUST MAY BE THE THING THAT WILL SHOW HIM WHO IT IS THAT REALLY CARES FOR HIM. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES.
               JOYCE

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From: MSN NicknameaaaaahadairSent: 9/12/2005 7:49 AM
Angelbear,
 
There have been many good comments in here for you.  We all feel the pain you are experiencing....it is quite readable in your post.
 
If you decide to go to the graduation, just inform JJ which hotel you will be at and the time you will be departing from the area.  Let him know that you would like to visit with him while there but make it his decision as to what he wants.  You may not get a chance to see him have another graduation otherwise.
 
 
adair

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From: MSN NicknameSquintyUglyalienSent: 9/14/2005 3:40 AM
Oh Angelbear, This must be absolutley heartbreaking for you.   Be strong and work through it....Is there anyway possible that you can look at these other people in a different light. For example look at them and say...right this is how it is...these people are in my sons life for now whether I like it or not....I can hate everything about it and make myself miserable or I can try another approach....I can accept that for now this is what he wants and I will try and see some good in these people and form some sort of relationship that will allow me to be a part of what is going on in my sons life. I may be completely out of line here by saying that but it's just I am seeing a similar situation going on between my sister and her grandchildrens other grandparents (long story - but she is missing out on her grandchild just because she hates the other grandparents soooooo much) Whatever you decide to do Angelbear just know we are all here for you
...hugs Squinty

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From: MSN NicknameFlashyFishtrishSent: 9/16/2005 1:09 PM
Where is the graduation?  Great Lakes? Trish

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From: MSN NicknameAngelbear1231Sent: 9/17/2005 12:25 AM
Trish- Its in SanDiego

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From: MSN NicknameabsolutelystumpedSent: 9/17/2005 5:25 AM
My son graduated at Camp Pendleton in San Diego.
 
You must go, Wanda. The ceremony will tug at your heart.  You will  see your son out there standing straight and tall.
Don't let "feelings" keep you from this moment you have earned and so richly deserve.
In these  uneasy times, we never know when we will see loved ones again.  
 
Besides, San Diego is lovely and the food on the wharf is great!   
 
 

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