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From: MSN Nicknamecharlee519  (Original Message)Sent: 1/20/2008 2:48 PM
DH is still in Florida, so he's been gone for 3 weeks, going on 4.  He was going to come home the end of last week, but a couple we know was going to be passing thru the area he's in and he agreed to meet them this weekend.  He called on Friday and I told him no problem, that it was super cold here anyway, so he may as well stay a little longer (praying all the time he would agree).  He did agree, but then he asked me if I missed him.  I don't know what happened with my brain, but all of a sudden it was like my vocal chords froze and all I did was stutter "uh,ah, uh".  I realized I sounded like a babbling idiot, but for the life of me, I could not speak! I think it was because I didn't want to lie and say that I did miss him, yet I couldn't come right out and say no, even though that's how it was interpreted (duh).  His tone got very serious and he said "we're going to have a long talk when I get home.  Obviously this isn't working out."  All I could say back was that he's in a place he wants to be and I'm not there to stress him out.  He dismissed that, said he had to go and hung up.  Since that phone conversation, I've been feeling guilty again.  How awful that I don't miss him, but  I just could not bring myself to lie and tell him that I did.  So, now I'm dreading what's going to happen when he gets home. 


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From: MSN NicknameLooneybird1231Sent: 2/2/2008 7:27 PM
Charlee--I know how you feel.  I have a love/hate relationship with my husband.  Sometimes he does and says stuff that makes me instantly hate his guts.  Other times, when he has done something nice or when he feels or looks tired or has gotten a work-related injury, I feel a sort of non-romantic love for him.  Does that make sense?  It's hard to describe. 
I hope things work out for you the way you want them to. 

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From: MSN NicknameCC20010Sent: 2/3/2008 12:53 AM
Looneybird-Wow,I thought I was the only one who felt that way about my husband.I was even beginning to feel alittle ashamed of myself,hmm.

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From: MSN Nickname§hebaro©Sent: 2/3/2008 4:29 AM
I'm new to this group but I have been reading this and it's bringing back memories to me.
What is not working for you in this marriage will not get better by itself. As the years go on it will get worse unless you go for help. Your husband will listen to a stranger (a shrink) faster than he will listen to you. It may not work out but the way you're living now is not the answer. You have a job, you can support yourself. The kids are older and their molding years are over with. Imagine life without this kind of mental anguish? I'm not advising you to do anything but think about what life could be. You're entitled to happiness.
Change worked for me...

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From: EveSent: 2/3/2008 1:02 PM
Looneybird, you sound more like a mother, or a nanny, than a wife. It's impossible to have a good marital relationship when the dynamic between you puts one in the roll of parent and the other as child.

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From: MSN NicknameKoKoˆSent: 2/3/2008 2:31 PM
I don't have much else to add to what everyone else has said, but I agree with everyone!  Do what is healthy for you, don't let yourself feel guilty for his issues and unrealistic expectations.
 
I had to do the same with my first husband.  I even went to Al-Anon meetings (even though there was no alcohol involved).  It greatly helped me to detach from the issues that I had no control over.  It gave me the support and strength to take control of my life. 
 
I no longer go to the meetings.  I am on my 2nd (and last) marriage.  My husband is a very sweet man and I am so happy that I made some very difficult decisions a few years ago, to get to where I am now.
 
Good Luck!!!
 
- KoKo

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From: MSN Nickname19260Sent: 2/3/2008 3:24 PM
after reading all the posts that everyong wrote, I just feel so much better, i thought i was the only one that felt that way about my husband.  didn't realize that there are other women that have the same problem.   i can't add anymore advice, just wish i would have left years ago, now I"m stuck sn old man that has the mentally of a 2 year old. 

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From: MSN NicknameAngelbear1231Sent: 2/3/2008 4:13 PM
19260-  I am sorry this happened to you to. Hugs! Angelbear

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From: MSN NicknameLooneybird1231Sent: 2/3/2008 8:25 PM
My husband and I have been married 29 years.  It will be 30 years in August.  I think that probably the majority of people that have been married this long have the same type of feelings about their spouses.

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From: MSN Nicknamecharlee519Sent: 2/5/2008 12:33 PM
It does appear that I am not alone in my feelings (or loss of them) for my spouse.  Seems like this does happen to many of us over time.  It's no wonder why fewer and fewer people stick it out to hit those mile-marker anniversaries like 25 or 50 years.  Can't help but think we've become too much of a "it's all about ME"  society.  Maybe it's just me, but I feel like this is more prevalent with men than women...is it because we were raised to be givers, not takers?

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From: MSN Nickname§hebaro©Sent: 2/5/2008 1:54 PM
charlee I agree with you. Our men of today have been brought up watching their mothers wait hand and foot on their fathers and maybe that's what they expect from their own wives. It's an "I bring home the money, I own you" mentality. Fortunately women have choices today we didn't have then. Our tolerance for any kind of abuse is less. We can get jobs, support ourselves and even have groups that will help us get back our dignity. We don't have to stay in an unhappy marriage. Being alone for a woman is no longer a unhappy life.

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From: MSN Nicknamebluebyrd56Sent: 2/5/2008 3:29 PM
I'll attest to that last comment!  Being alone isn't all that bad.  Good friends, wonderful relationships with my kids, and my own peace of mind are great things in life.  And sometimes I felt more "alone" in my marriage then now. 

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From: MSN NicknameCC20010Sent: 2/5/2008 4:09 PM
Let's not forget that most men talk like they give,give,give to keep us in the lap of luxury(Yeah Right).IOW they talk like we're all at home eating bonbons all day while THEY'RE scratching out a living.

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From: MSN Nicknamekayk400Sent: 2/21/2008 1:26 AM
Amen Amen to that and the previous post!  I agree 100% totally

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From: MSN Nicknamekayk400Sent: 2/21/2008 1:34 AM
Charlee:
 
I don't know if you've read any of my posts that I put under my heading of "disappearing," but I have just begun the journey of being ME and MYSELF ALONE.  I've left my husband of 31 years and first of all I am happier.  What everyone has said to you in this post is most certainly true.  While I would not just flippently advise someone to 'leave' I do recommend it if you are truly unhappy.  Mental abuse is just as devastating as physical...people just can't see the mental abuse.  I was in therapy...by myself... for over 3 years before I could finally have enough self-esteem, self-worth and strength to move out on my own.  You see I went right from my controlling mother's house into my controlling husband's house at the very young age of 18.  I am almost 50 now and finally, for the very first time in my life, I feel GREAT!  Yes, guilt raises it's ugly head all the time (at least once a day) but I am dealing with that, with the help of some very strong helpful friends and my sister.  This group has been great as well.  If you'd like to converse via e-mail, I wonder if Angelbear would put us in touch.  She has worked wonders for me.
 
Sorry this is so long..I have a lot to say these days on this particular subject!

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