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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoon  in response to Message 6Sent: 3/9/2007 5:30 PM
Flashgord says:
                         as a child and thought i was unlovable and didnt deserve their attention.i can forgive them for the emotional neglect but i cant forgive the way my father has always deliberatly knocked my self esteem down.he has always done this by way of words,my feeling over the last few years is that he does this out of a feeling of inferiority ,and that whenever i express myself as the fun, capable, proud, gemini sun /leo moon its somehow makes him feel less of a man.
 
 
       ...........OK, I think I've got it, (by George!)......but it's a repetition of what Tim (Astral Badger said)........I think as they say, he is as well, "spot on".
 
If you look at Ralph's natal Chart, (check out his Leo M/C), the impetus of the very soul of the man, that propelled him into this lifetime.........
(accdg.to Cayce and I agree, after reading the very ancient Hermes Tritune which I've posted here on the "Off Topic" or "Astrology Tools" Sections., as well as Ptolemy's recordation of the importance of the M/C and the Soul's entrance.
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NOW, I'm relating to you, how I was at your age and how Ralph was at your age.
 
For HIM. (here's his chart): POST 31 is the chart......
 
 
This stellium of planets in the house ruled by Leo, is more then just what meets the eye.
He TOO, as a child, felt as you did Paul, with his mother pointing out "his acne, making him feel "less then"....as well they were okay people but didn't exactly help his self esteem by favoring the older daughter to the exclusion of Ralph............
 
NOW, the way this worked in his psyche, is his girlfriends, dates, etc. had to be "Really Special" in their "Looks".........meaning quite beautiful, or he wasn't interested.
We ALL use a mirror to reflect back to ourselves, what our traits, our needs, our desires are, and sometimes, until we are more integrated and self-analytical (as you are presently being).........it takes time and pain from "What is received BACK to you from this mirror effect" or your reality.
 
So, by choosing people to date who "fit his description" of what is truly beautiful, so to feel better about himself, he actually did as Tim suggested, "Shoot himself in the foot" everytime.
 
These people may have had exterior "looks", to help him augment his own self-reliance upon such things, as well as bolstering his self image (Leo), because of his perceived lack of these things as a child, BUT at a great cost.
 
When I met him, in a bar, at age 24, and while waiting for the pool table to open, I sat next to a guy (age 23), that had essentially decided within himself, to NEVER EVER speak to a girl first again...........he was so turned off by the behavior of those he had dated or liked.,as they turned out to be rather phoney & users.
 
NOW, my first question to him, while sitting there was, "OKay, what's your Sign?"
 
LOL.................and I remind you, this was 1971 and not "All the rage" back then.
After just digesting Linda Goodman's "Sun Signs"...........a new book then.,that a guy in the band gave me (I was dating another person when I met Ralph).............and he played music in this bar.
 
He was startled by the question, and said then & there, he "felt", that by his implicit promise to himself, NEVER to approach a woman, that this was a "Sign", (invariably, a real Libran type , with Venus in Libra too.)..........a sign from above, lol.
 
Well the rest is history.....35 years now, and more in love then even that infamous day.
 
BUT What did he have to do to find happiness??
He needed to be hurt enough, to re-assess his own "vision", and reflecting mirror to see, that even though (under prior circumstances, ) I may not have "fit the bill", now after all his own pain & bad experiences, I fit rather nicely, as a "Real person", and not just a mirror image of him.,for him.
 
He (in other words), is very very goodlooking, a typical Libra Sun, and I'm rather plain by comparison....(darker, then he), shorter with short legs., etc. 5 feet tall, and he's, 6 Feet, robin egg blue eyes, a real looker.
 
How did I snag such a guy?..................LOL
 
It's easy, I was "nice".............and that's all it took.
 
 
So, you see when we "use" others as a reflecting mirror for our own insecurities, we do as Tim said, "shoot ourselves in the foot".
 
Hope this helps.
 
 


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     re: personal fear and insecurity   MSN NicknameFlashgordGem  3/9/2007 7:22 PM