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 Message 1 of 32 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoon  (Original Message)Sent: 10/17/2007 6:01 PM
I had the most horrid nightmare
 
my worst fear ever, come true in this dream last night.
 
I was feeling so down, (before I went to bed), for hours & hours feeling badly, with an arthritic knee and not being able to bend it without much pain, plus other rhuematic pain throughout the body.
 
When I finally went to sleep I had this dream:
 
........."Ralph & I were going somewhere, like on a tour, but we needed to go through this house along with other people......to go out the back door"
As we entered the house, I nervously scanned with my eyes for cats, (I hate cats, and am deathly afraid of them, in real life; I think it's a carryover from a past life, being clawed to death by a lion?? who knows?  I've felt this way my entire life.
 
Anyway, going through this house, a little cat jumps onto my back with it's long claws, and doesn't let go!
 
Now, normally, every house I EVER go into, IF there is a cat, they head straight for me anyway, as apparently they sense the fear in me, and they always, jump on my lap - as my heart nearly stops!!
 
But in the dream this little cat, wouldn't let go!
 
It simply stayed there hanging on, and no matter how hard I tried to release it and get it off, it wouldn't come off......
 
I saw Ralph ahead of me, and he left out the back door with the rest of the tour, so I was "really on my own" here.
 
I FINALLY, got this cat off me, and slammed the back door, on it, so it couldn't get out and get me, but alas, the little cat was trying to break down the door, as I needed to sit on the stoop, with my back to the door, (it wouldn't close all the way), and stay shut!!
 
Hours went by, with only me, holding back the cat with my back, afraid to move ........from that position.
 
People walked by, by the gobs, hundreds of people on the streets, as I'd cry out, "Help me, please help me", but no one did
No one would stop even for a minute, I thought to myself, they think I'm crazy or something, or they are afraid.
 
Finally, 2 hours or more later, two men stopped, to look, and I said to them, I've traveled all over the world, and have been to many states, and NEVER have I encountered such "cold" people as in
this town, who would not help a person
 
I think they helped, get the cat and release me from the door.
 
 
 


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 Message 18 of 32 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamesupergal27Sent: 10/19/2007 6:12 PM
Dear Deb,
 
I did not know you have been going through such struggles. I am sorry to hear you have been in so much pain.
 
How amazing that you have channeled some of that pain into helping others by sharing of your spirit through these boards.
 
I want you to know, though I don't post that often, I look forward to each message which is full of your characteristic warmth and wit.
 
Blessings,
Soo

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 Message 19 of 32 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 10/19/2007 6:19 PM
Raquel: It is possible he is jealous of the time being expended, Or it's possible, he just cares that much about your energy &health too.  BUT, for sure, you must follow that "still small voice within", that is your Christ consciousness, your higher self speaking.....
 
Never doubt it!
 
Your "nature" as you say, is to be a caring, loving soul, and it would hurt you deeply to think of another who is in pain & want.
I'm the same way, (I'm sure it must be Cancer Rising?) but more sure it's from past lifetimes and the energy which follows into this one.
 
Always follow your dream...........and always remember the ego, (is the lower part of us), that suggests we be "self-ish".,or aware of the self, to the exclusion of the higher self.
 
Don't fall for the trap, as you'd be miserable.
 
Your'e doing GREAT!! just being yourself.
 
I wish there were clones of you all over the world today.
 
And thanks for the good wishes,.........I haven't given up, Ralph & I bought the yearly beautiful birthday card for Jess, (her birthday is January 13th, and she was my 30th birthday present to myselfas my last child.
 
She will be 31 now,and I will be 61 on January 9th. (can't hardly believe it)..... Well at LEAST now, we can go into the "Early Bird Senior Buffet" and eat cheaper, LOL.
 
But as far as Jess goes, I must count my blessings here too......as Ralph always reminds me.
 
At least she now has a friend in her sister Jennifer (the middle one), who befriended her last Christmas after a long many years estrangement.....when Jess lived with the Mexican guy.
and fell out of touch with her family (ditched us all!)
 
This then  "is a blessing", that I cannot forget.
 
Her older sister (Becky), now has moved away from Arizona & all to the east coast in Pennsylvania, so, she cannot depend on Becky (Cancer Sun), to be mothering her any longer.....or helping with the twins.
This then is wonderful (beyond belief), that Jen now has access to her & the twins....just wonderful.
 
Otherwise, her parents, (Ralph & I) would be more worried, sick & devastated, so it's great that Jen is there for her and wants to be part of her life.
 
We get regular (3rd party) access to the information as well as recent photos now,(from Jen)......Aunt Jen,who will never have any children of her own,so she too benefits from the association as "Aunt Jen".
 
You know, the  bottom line Raquel, is when I married Ralph, (and this is really ironic or wierd), I said to him,(age 25), I thought we should have 3 children.
Not 2.
 
Reason, as I "intuited",?       I said, he & I were both products of only 2 siblings.....He has a sister who isn't close at all with.
She is a triple LEOand very spoiled, and he Leo at the M/C and ignored because he was "the boy".
 
Me?..........I had only one sister too. And because of being 3 years differnce, and a cultural change, (she was a REAL hippie in the late 60s, drugs, communes, the whole thing), and I was a more conservative, no drugs, no following anyone type of person.
She is Libra Sun,Cancer Moon (I think).....
 
anyway, we aren't close either......and this Jessica thing tore up the little we had together (long story)
 
............................................................................................
So I said, when I was 25, "We will have 3 children" so IF one of them, is ever out of favor or not with the other one, (like in our own situation) they will ALWAYS have someone to rely on!  the 3rd sister.
 
And life worked out exactly as I planned.
 
Love,
 
Deb.

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 Message 20 of 32 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 10/19/2007 6:22 PM
 thanks Sue, you're sweet too!!for caring about a stranger.

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 10/19/2007 6:28 PM
Raquel: Today I will post a few photos, of the twins (as Jen photographed them recently at a concert for children, (PEDIATRIC AIDS concert) Jen is part of every year, with the great songwriter,/singer TomChapin
 
Tom is the brother who does children songs.....and the brother of a wonderful Singer/Songwriter (very famous) from the 70s, named, Harry Chapin. He wrote, "Cat's in the Cradle" and other hits.
 
Anyway, every year, Jen sponsers at her work, Tom Chapin comes to town to sing for the kids....who have AIDS, and this year she took the twins (and Jess) to this concert.
 
They loved it! of course, as he always has interaction with them.
 
I also have photos recently of their trip (with Aunt Jen) to the Pumpkin Patch .......the fall treat, because it's almost Halloween here.
 
Yes, they are adorable, ......even if their natal chart looks difficult.
for sure; as Ralph says, we will still be alive, and here for them to help them, as they get older.
 
I'm sure at some point, even in their teenage years, they will want to know their grandparents, and will not be under the thumb anylonger.
 
  I keep ongoing diaries, films & photos for them....
 
Life is as it should be, - we need to always have FAITH that our consciousness is expanding as it needs be.
Even when it hurts.
 
 
 
 

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 Message 22 of 32 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamesupergal27Sent: 10/19/2007 6:45 PM
Deb,
 
To me, you're not a stranger. We are kindred spirits. Your heart and spirit are full of love. You have been there when I was at my lowest and felt utterly lost. You offered a hand and words of encouragement ... to me it is worth all the gold in the world.
 
Best,
Soo

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 10/19/2007 9:59 PM
you're kind Soo, we just do the best we can, with what we've got.
 
Sometimes it works sometimes it's not enough.
 
I'm glad it worked this time
 
Deb.

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 10/20/2007 3:52 PM
"If" only everyone believed as you do, the world might be a better place.
 
Love, Deb.

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From: MSN NicknameFlashgordGemSent: 10/22/2007 5:53 PM
hi deb,
sorry to hear of your troubles, my sister i beleive has cancer rising aswell, im thinking thats where she gets her sensitive side as she has a lot of sag planets.
 
maybe we would have to look to your 6th house to see where the health afflictions are? have you recently just had your saturn return?
 
paul

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 10/22/2007 6:53 PM
Hi Paul: Thanks............, I think I did a few years ago?
 
Here's my chart (post 26)
 
 
I hope this long stay of Pluto, will treat me okay, and I'd prefer to just die then rely on anyone's help at all, (except for Ralph of course) I'd NEVER want to burden or ask a daughter for any help at all........
 
None are here now anyway, (Becky's in PA, across the country and has her own family to worry about), 2 little kids, and Jessica, ignores us.
That leaves only Jen, and she's busy with the deadbeat boyfriend, who she supports & he comes, "First" in her life now, which is understandable.
 
I'd HATE to bother her as an older person......not that she isn't wonderful, as she IS a very very nice person & very caring, BUT, I taught them all to be independent and I too need to be in the end.,as well.
 
Here is a song I always loved:
 
called, "And When I Die"......and When I'm dead & gone............
 
when he was the lead singer of "Blood , Sweat & Tears", the singer,
David Clayton Thomas (read the replies, they are interesting.....)
timeless music.
 
This was the first concert I took Ralph to see, before we married.
 They were incredible!! in person.
 
original 1970 concert......
 
clearer words............... - song.........
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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 Message 28 of 32 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 10/22/2007 6:54 PM
I'm not scared of dying,
And I don't really care.
If it's peace you find in dying,
Well then let the time be near.
If it's peace you find in dying,
And if dying time is here,
Just bundle up my coffin
'Cause it's cold way down there.
I hear that its cold way down their.
Yeah, crazy cold way down their.

[Chorus:]
And when I die, and when I'm gone,
There'll be one child born
In this world to carry on,
to carry on.

Now troubles are many, they're as deep as a well.
I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell.
Swear there ain't no heaven and I pray there ain't no hell,
But I'll never know by living, only my dying will tell.
Yes only my dying will tell.
Yeah, only my dying will tell.

[Chorus]

Give me my freedom for as long as I be.
All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.
All I ask of living is to have no chains on me,
And all I ask of dying is to go naturally.
Oh I want to go naturally.

Here I go,
Hey Hey!
Here comes the devil,
Right Behind.
Look out children,
Here he comes!
Here he comes! Hey...

Don't want to go by the devil.
Don't want to go by demon.
Don't want to go by Satan,
Don't want to die uneasy.
Just let me go naturally.

and when I die,
When I'm dead, dead and gone,
There'll be one child born in our world to carry on,
To carry on.


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 Message 29 of 32 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFlashgordGemSent: 10/22/2007 11:22 PM
it sounds like a very moving song deb,i havnt heard of david clayton thomas,ill check those links ,thanks.
 
saturn is near your third now? when saturn was in this point in my chart it was a tough transit ,very much a mental strain,although i do have some very serious saturn afflictions in my natal aswell as having a very mercury mind orientated chart.so that could have contributed quite alot.my mind was alot more serious at this time and it can get quite serious naturally anyway.
 
gosh,yes pluto in the 6th,i have had pluto going through my 6th for a large portion of my life ,its natally near the end of my 5th and only went into the 7th around 2003 ,i did use the energy for good use i think at the time as i was having trouble keeping a permanent job before this,once i got to the end of this transit i realised if i want to buy the things that i want to kickstart my creativity i need to try and keep a comitment in work,which was an incentive enough to try and hold down a regular job despite my anxiety in public life making my life hell.  
 
pluto dosnt mean death though, i believed i was starring death in the face around a year ago with that pluto sun oppostion and had some astrologers telling me to pray for my own safety,but i came out the other side with knowledge to see what needs changing and shifting within me.maybe you can definatly use that brilliant researching mind of yours to dig out info on how you can use the powerfull planet pluto for your own gain and turn this transit around into making it something that will benefit you.
 
hope that helps debs
 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 10/23/2007 12:59 AM
Thanks Paul, I'll try

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 10/23/2007 1:23 AM
okay, IF you don't ever listen to the other ones posted, try this one on for size!
 
 
Lucretia Mac Evil, little girl, what's your game?
Hard luck and trouble, bound to be your claim to fame.
Tail shakin', home breakin', truckin' through town.
Each and every country mother's son hangin' round.
Drive a young man insane. Evil, that's your name

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From: MSN NicknameFlashgordGemSent: 10/23/2007 5:12 PM
hey i like it,
its quite funky, i have slowly buildt up an appreciation of funk over the years ,james brown, burnard purdie, breakestra,loads of others aswell.good stuff

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