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Now that we hear some people even speaking of WW3 etc. I wonder what Cayce had to say about this. I have this book called "Predictions, old and new uptill the year 2050" by Jules Silver. The orinigal title is in german and was published in 1974. Silver also spends a chapter on Cayce and says that Cayce never spoke of WW3. What he did predict was a struggle for power caused by economical, social and racist factors, and in relation thereto saw horrible military conflicts before 1998. What do you know about this? As I gather you know very much about Cayce. What does he say about the period after 2000? |
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As with so much to do with Metaphyiscal subjects, the Subject of Edgar Cayce and his so-called Predictions are both misunderstood by the lay person and the student of metaphysics alike, IMO. Reason being, that we in this plane of existence, tend only to see and experience life in the Linear sense. To some extent this is true, as our lives here run from beginning to a definite end.,or Linearly. But in the spiritual realms to which Cayce accessed, (the Akashic Record or the Skein of Space & Time record), this is not so, thus, ALL who seek answers to the future (in linear time frames), do so at their own soul's misunderstanding because there is only ONE time. Time then is the key to his so-called predictions. To understand then, that they emitted from "Space & Time", thru his mind's eye (filter).....in that point of space & time being in the 30s or the 1940s, hence, "As the probablities reflected would occur at that point "in time" only. Have the "probabilities then changed??" THIS is what we need to ask ourselves.(IMO) .................................................................................................... The A.R.E. (Cayce's insitutute he founded), is very much concerned about such literal translations although early on, even they didn't truly understand themselves the meaning of his readings. We have what is termed then, the "Halaliel Readings".............which everyone is especially cautious about. Many of Cayce's dire predictions came from this entity (for lack of a different word)........."Halaliel" as this angel termed this consciousness and called himself when asked, "Who is this speaking?" Halaliel was the consciousness that Cayce (as a radio receiver type of agent or mystic picked up ).........this trasmission, and these were the dire Nostradamus type of reading that is oftentimes referred to. Now - at the A.R.E. - there was a concensus vote taken at this time, with Edgar Cayce as well, that Halaliel, was not to be trusted (per se) NOT that they didn't trust him, as a consciousness coming thru Edgar Cayce, BUT that they (the entire Cayce inner circle including Mr. Cayce) PREFERRED rather to be more in touch with Cayce's original connections, i.e. the "Christ Consciousness" as he termed it to be. This is to say that many times in the course of his short life (till his late 60s), Mr. Cayce was transimitting messages that would interrupt his "normal" trance state from other realms. One of these was from Halaliel. I will try & post a few that are now attributed to Hallalliel. |
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a few excerpts I found online from this particular reading includes: (I'd take ANY from Halaliel OR attributed to this particular consciousness, "with a grain of salt", not to say that at that point in time, (when the reading was given), that it wasn't "appropo", but linear time and man's consciousness, has changed a bit with enlightenment even from the concern. Thus, when people meditate, pray & think in a more positive framework, THAT too, will change the course of history, understand? (deb;) - 3976-15 As to the changes physical again: The earth will be broken up in the western portion of America. The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea.
- The upper portion of Europe will be changed as in the twinkling of an eye. Land will appear off the east coast of America..
- There will be the upheavals in the Arctic and in the Antarctic that will make for the eruption of volcanos in the Torrid areas, and there will be shifting then of the poles - so that where there has been those of a frigid or the semi-tropical will become the more tropical, and moss and fern will grow. And these will begin in those periods in '58 to '98, when these will be proclaimed as the periods when His light will be seen again in the clouds. As to times, as to seasons, as to places, ALONE is it given to those who have named the name - and who bear the mark of those of His calling and His election in their bodies. To them it shall be given.
- As to those things that deal with the mental of the earth, these shall call upon the mountains to cover many. As ye have seen those in lowly places raised to those of power in the political, in the machinery of nations' activities, so shall ye see those in high places reduced and calling on the waters of darkness to cover them. And those that in the inmost recesses of theirselves awaken to the spiritual truths that are to be given, and those places that have acted in the capacity of teachers among men, the rottenness of those that have ministered in places will be brought to light, and turmoils and strifes shall enter. And, as there is the wavering of those that would enter as emissaries, as teachers, from the throne of life, the throne of light, the throne of immortality, and wage war in the air with those of darkness, then know ye the Armageddon is at hand.
- - - "And those that seek in the latter portion of the year of our Lord (as ye have counted in and among men) 1936, He will appear!" [Corrected to 1998]
- - yet as each seeks to be a channel of blessings to the fellow man, each attunes self to the throne of universal information
- - the sun will be darkened - and there shall be proclaimed - through the spiritual interception in the hearts and minds and souls - that his star has appeared - and will point (pause) the way for those who enter into the Holy of Holies in themselves. He will appear!" [Corrected to 1998]
- - (The regenerated) shall come and declare that John Peniel is giving to the world the new order of things.
- - "as begins then the reign in `98 (as time is counted in the present.)"
- - [Cayce gave October 31 as the anniversary of Noah's Flood, or poleshift
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Who or What is Halaliel? Is it a personal consciousness of an angel,or rather a larger (impersonal consciousness) of many? Some excerpts might give a notion here: from 254-83: 3. Then, from the heights of those experiences, those hierarchies in the earth and in the air, we come as messengers of truth to those who will hear, and question. 4. (Q) For the better and more rational presentation of the work of Edgar Cayce to the world, will you, if you consider same in order, kindly inform us of Thine Identity and the source or sources from which you bring us the information given in answer to our questions in the readings other than the Physical? Is it from the Astral - (A) (interrupting) From the universal forces that are acceptable and accessible to those that in earnestness OPEN their minds, their souls, to the wonderful words of truth and light. 5. (Q) To what extent are the Masters of the Great White Brotherhood directing the activities of Edgar Cayce? Who are the Masters directly in charge? (A) MESSENGERS from the higher forces that may manifest from the Throne of grace itself. 6. (Q) Who are the Masters directly in charge? Is Saint Germain - [Comte de (c. 1710 c. 1780)?] - (A) (Interrupting) Those that are directed by the Lord of lords, the King of kings, Him that came that ye might be one with the Father. 7. (Q) Is Saint Germain among them? Who is Halaliel? (A) These are all but messengers of the Most High. Halaliel is the one who from the beginning has been a leader of the heavenly host, who has defied Ariel, who has made the ways that have been heavy - but as the means for the UNDERSTANDING. 17. (Q) Who are the most important individuals who should be approached at this time? (A) They whom the Lord hath called and who ARE GIVEN the opportunity by those that would from the material angle see a plan, a way, a means of the spiritual activities that may come to these into material manifestations; whether in charities that there may be more and more recognition from those that sit in the seat of the mighty in the scientific points of attack or of contact, or that there may be the more and more giving of authority from the sources of the earth, or whether in those channels as of hospitalization where the weak, the needy, the lame, the halt, the blind, those that have lost themselves - or lost hold upon themselves - may find the way. In any, in all of these channels should there be activity by those that first give themselves in service, then set about to put same into activity. 18. (Q) Please name them. (A) All that are called. This must be from within the individual, rather than from here. For how readest thou? "That thou shalt sit upon my right hand or my left, as my kingdom is established in the hearts of men, is not mine to give," but for those that have offered and do in the humbleness of self offer - and LIVE - and ARE in themselves; for these are the laws established from the beginning, "When ye call on the Lord He will answer thee right quickly." Hast thou purged thyself; thy purposes; thy desires? Are they one with the Lord?19. We are through for the present. |
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<more from Halaliel: (excerpt from 262-56 (October 1933) 20. (Q) (General question) Please explain the existence of darkness before the existence of light. (A) This has just been explained, to those who will read that given! That man, or war, or sin, or separation in glory of those that were heedless. Then, that there might be the way for those - What has been given as the most meaning of all that written? He has not willed that any soul should perish, but from the beginning has prepared a way of escape! What, then, is the meaning of the separation? Bringing into being the various phases that the soul may find in its manifested forms the consciousness and awareness of its separation, and itself, by that through which it passes in all the various spheres of its awareness. Hence the separation, and light and darkness. Darkness, that it had separated - that a soul had separated itself from the light. Hence He called into being Light, that the awareness began. Hence we look out and see the heavens, the stars; and, as the psalmist has said: "The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament sheweth his handiwork, as day unto day uttereth speech and night unto night sheweth knowledge." 21. (Q) Comment upon the following. Is it worthy of expansion; that is, does it carry any light of truth? The Creator, in seeking to find or create a being worthy of companionship, realized that such a being would result only from a free will exercising its divine inheritance and through its own efforts find its Maker. Thus, to make the choice really a Divine one caused the existence of states of consciousness, that would indeed tax the free will of a soul; thus light and darkness. Truly, only those tried so as by fire can enter in. (A) The only variation that we would make is that all souls in the beginning were one with the Father. The separation, or turning away, brought evil. Then there became the necessity of the awareness of self's being out of accord with, or out of the realm of blessedness; and, as given of the Son, "yet learned he obedience through the things which he suffered." COME, my children! Ye no doubt have gained from the comment this day a new initiate has s poken in or through this channel; Halaliel [?], that was with those in the beginning who warred with those that separated themselves and became as naught. 22. We are through |
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Report on background material of above: Beginning October 15, 1933, and continuing for a number of months members of Search For God Group #1 went through a rather difficult decision-making period. This occurred during a time when there was great economic difficulty during the so-called depression years and during this time Edgar Cayce experienced a period of ill health. It should be pointed out here that this is a personal opinion, but it is also an opinion which was held by all the members of Group #1 with the exception of two members who simply raised questions about the possibility of having both the guidance which was suggested and, what all agreed, was a higher attunement with the ideals related to the Christ Consciousness. It was for all a period of questioning, testing, and decision making. Though Edgar Cayce still maintained his voice and his manner, inflection, etc., the statement was made that a character known as Halaliel could direct the material to be given in the readings in a clearer more organized fashion. It was indicated that a decision needed to be made as to whether this offer of clarification could be accepted by the group. (In my personal opinion this certainly in no way needed to be identified with the Biblical legendary angel, Halaliel.) Over a period of several readings as indicated here, and after considerable discussion at the study group meetings a large proportion of Group #1 felt that the purposes and guidance for the group's activities should continue to be focused toward the level of the Christ Consciousness and that the offer of clarification and direction should not be accepted. As I understand the readings which followed, the group was commended for the choice and stand which had been taken. On one occasion following a reading with Eileen Garrett [507-1, 2/3/34] her control, Uvani, offered to clarify the readings, and a question was asked in reading 254-71 [2/6/34] as to whether this would be a wise idea or not. Again, the offer was not accepted here because of a statement in the reading itself. I think this is a similar kind of diversion brought on by the stress and trial through which the whole group, as well as the nation, was passing and because of the physical disturbances (illnesses) Edgar Cayce suffered at the time. Hugh Lynn Cayce |
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as for political change, destruction, Wars and/or unrest with Race Riots etc. many of these things have already occurred since Edgar Cayce spoke of them. His readings were mostly done when these were given in the 30s, and the Race issues mentioned were the 1960s race riots in America. I believe that he did see and spoke of the Palestinian issues, as being necessary in the future (we are now in that future)........to be rectified or else, America loses it's control on the west as far as it's originally held title as leader of the Free World. Halaliel (I believe it was) spoke of the control going to China..... It certainly seems plausible, IMO that this will occur, financially anyway. As China is rapidly gaining by leaps & bounds over us. The morality or rather immorality of the Iraq occupation seems to me to be part of this entire scenario he once forsaw. I'll see if I can find more readings referencing this "probable" future event(s) |
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3976-24 (excerpted from report) R2. 3/59 HLC's note [re 3976-24, Par. 8]: Grammatical confusion and peculiar selection of words and phrases frequently obscure the meaning of passages in Mr. Cayce's psychic readings. At the present time we are not prepared to make a complete explanation of this difficulty. We believe that during any reading the point of view is beyond three dimensions. Converting observations made through this expanded consciousness into three dimensional terms must at times cause some vagueness. To a great extent the language of the readings is confined to Mr. Cayce's conscious knowledge of words and phrases. In the reading which precedes this note [ 3976-24] we find one passage that is especially vague: "Ye are to have a division in thine own land before there is the second of the Presidents that next will not live through his office - a mob rule." Many of those who heard this reading assumed that this indicated that the second President would not live through office, thus dating the outbreak of violence in this country. A careful reading will show that this statement may refer to some distant date when the time of the second President who does not live through office arrives. A question would have cleared this at the end of the reading. We leave it for you to make your own interpretation. R3. 5/29/75 GD's note: We were told that Mr. Ralph Courtney had been a War Correspondent during World War I and had met Dr. Rudolf Steiner in Europe. He became vitally interested and later joined those who were promoting the Steiner movement, through the Anthroposophical Society. When we first met Mr. Courtney he was active in the Three-fold farm in Spring Valley, N.Y. and also the Threefold Rest aurant in N.Y. where the foods were served that were grown on the Threefold Farm. I heard him lecture at Threefold Farm on some of Steiner's works that had not yet been translated, or published. Edgar Cayce was the guest of Ralph Courtney at Threefold Farm on several occasions. Also Ralph Courtney visited Edgar Cayce in Virginia Beach several times and referred quite a few people for readings. He was present for the 3976-24 reading on World Affairs and submitted questions relating to Steiner's threefold plan for social reform. |
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