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I found this site which gives lengthy descriptions, free charts (all different kinds available), as well as describing asteroids & their locations. Not sure if it's a worthwhile site, but it seems to be, quick and easy to use. |
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Dee: I spent a good part of today, going thru this link again,to see if it can give us anything really worthwhile. I think I found something, but not sure, but I think so! I used the "Details of all Text" or the Chart Report ALL-Keyword Text" and bypassed most of it, but took out the following (just under the natal charts)...... The MAJOR aspects forming: as well as the POWER of the particular planets involved, from the MOST powerful, to the descending, least. It looks like this, and to tell the truth, it makes a lot of sense for my huband, myself, and our children, (and I can also see my grandchildren's patterns as to the symbols each of the planets represent here. I'll give you an example..... MINE: Stellium with Sun: 18Cap50 and Mer: 10Cap37 and Mar: 17Cap56<o:p></o:p> Grand Trine with Ven: 3Sag27 and Sat: 6Leo45 and Ves: 4Ari41<o:p></o:p> Grand Trine with Ven: 3Sag27 and Sat: 6Leo45 and Mid: 5Ari10<o:p></o:p> Stellium with Ven: 3Sag27 and Jun: 12Sag11 and For: 14Sag07<o:p></o:p> Stellium with Ven: 3Sag27 and Jun: 12Sag11 and Ver: 7Sag37<o:p></o:p> Stellium with Ven: 3Sag27 and For: 14Sag07 and Ver: 7Sag37<o:p></o:p> Grand Trine with Sat: 6Leo45 and Ves: 4Ari41 and Ver: 7Sag37<o:p></o:p> Grand Trine with Sat: 6Leo45 and Ver: 7Sag37 and Mid: 5Ari10<o:p></o:p> Stellium with Jun: 12Sag11 and For: 14Sag07 and Ver: 7Sag37 Note: much old karma clearing, see Saturn in the various important connections with Venus and the Vertex and POF, for this lifetime�?.much woe connected with loving someone. MY GOD!!! LOOK AT THE POWER OF PLUTO OPERATING, FOR TRANSFORMATION IN MY NATAL CHART, IT’S INCREDIBLE IN IT’S ENERGY OR POWER NO WONDER A LIFETIME OF HORRENDOUS EVENTS 1: Saturn [Leo] Con [Leo] Pluto - sep 5:58' - power:109.98 Energy representing part of mind that is disciplined, respectful, and solitary is connected and fused together with energies of destiny, and capacity to transform the self and the outer world. They will affect each other prominently. 2: Neptune (Lib) Tri [Gem] Node - app 0:19' - power: 49.71 Energy representing intuitive, spiritual, compassionate, psychic nature is in harmony with energies of karmic goals, and best direction of evolutionary growth. 3: Pluto [Leo] Tri (Sag) Juno - app 0:32' - power: 28.44 |
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see the power of Saturn with Pluto at over 100% or 109.98 and how it goes down in power immediately, in descending fashion. The strongest power then operating in my life has been Pluto and Saturn together, (110% which is incredibly high )energy ....................................................................................................... after this, we see it descends to Neptune trine Nod @49.71% When I did my husband's we have the SAME planets operating in unison and at an incredibly higher Power then the norm (of others I've done of example charts!!) |
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Now when I did Ralph' s I find that he too, has the power of much over 140% for Pluto & Saturn's connections to his life. No wonder so much sadness and heartache for us!! Saturn (woe)...lord of karma, and Pluto (Catalyst for soul's transformation) We've apparently chosen a life together of much hardship, to learn and grow spiritually, in a BIG way. RALPH:<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> MAJOR ASPECTS INCLUDE:<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Stellium with Moo: 29Can37 and Mar: 4Leo17 and Ves: 22Can50<o:p></o:p> Stellium with Mer: 8Sco48 and Chi: 10Sco08 and Asc: 18Sco37<o:p></o:p> Yod from Nod: 24Tau11 to Ven: 23Lib47 and Jun: 25Sag02<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> NOTE; THE YOD, ALTHOUGH CONSIDERED TO BE AN ASPECT OF MUCH POTENTIAL, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE THE POTENTIAL IS FOR SPIRITUAL GROWTH. I BASE THIS UPON THE FACT THAT THE PART OF THE YOD, SUGGESTS THAT THE POTENTIAL IS FROM THE NN (CONJUNCT ALGOL)SO, FATE + BAD LUCK , TO VENUS AND JUNO.<o:p></o:p> NN IS THE POTENTIAL (AS IS A YOD), FOR GROWTH IN THE LIFETIME�?<o:p></o:p> HIS HAS BEEN A LIFETIME WHICH HAS BEEN HORRIBLY SAD, (NOTE THE MOON CONNECTION WITH THE STELLIUM),AND BEYOND BELIEF, With THE LOSS OF HIS YOUNGEST CHILD.,CAUSING IRREPERABLE DAMAGE TO THE EMOTIONS AND CERTAINLY MUCH CHANGE WITHIN. |
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Wed) 10/ 8/1947 8:05pm Moon (Leo) Qui [Tau] Node<o:p></o:p> Energy representing emotional nature, moods, feelings, and caring tendencies<o:p></o:p> creatively relates externally with energies of karmic goals, and best<o:p></o:p> direction of evolutionary growth.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> 1: Saturn (Leo) Con (Leo) Pluto - sep 5:15' - power:123.05<o:p></o:p> Energy representing part of mind that is disciplined, respectful, and solitary<o:p></o:p> is connected and fused together with energies of destiny, and capacity to<o:p></o:p> transform the self and the outer world. They will affect each other<o:p></o:p> prominently.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> 2: Sun (Lib) Con (Lib) Neptune - sep 3:45' - power: 38.67 |
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Summation of my findings today: MY GOD!!! LOOK AT THE POWER OF PLUTO OPERATING, FOR TRANSFORMATION IN MY NATAL CHART, IT’S INCREDIBLE IN IT’S ENERGY OR POWER NO WONDER A LIFETIME OF HORRENDOUS EVENTS 1: Saturn [Leo] Con [Leo] Pluto - sep 5:58' - power:109.98 Ralph's <o:p></o:p> 1: Saturn (Leo) Con (Leo) Pluto - sep 5:15' - power:123.05 other family members: Strongest from power standpoint, see Program Starchart 1: Saturn [Leo] Tri (Sag) Neptune - sep 0:04' - power: 67.76<o:p></o:p> Energy representing part of mind that is disciplined, respectful, and solitary<o:p></o:p> is in harmony with energies of intuitive, spiritual, compassionate, psychic<o:p></o:p> nature.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Note of Primary underpinnings: (see critical degree with Neptune undermining this chart:<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> NOTE: SATURN IS IN LEO IN THE 15TH Degree working with Neptune<o:p></o:p> in strongest position or power in the Natal. and a 2nd daughter: 1: Pluto (Lib) Con (Lib) Vesta - sep 5:54' - power: 47.66 Energy representing destiny, and capacity to transform the self and the outer world is connected and fused together with energies of capacity to direct creative energy into personal or devotional goals. They will affect each other prominently and a 3rd daughter: 1: Uranus (Lib) Con (Lib) Juno - app 4:11' - power: 48.85 Energy representing individuality, desires for change, and tendency to go against social norms is connected and fused together with energies of tendency to give away individual power for the benefit of a relationship. They will affect each other prominently. 2: Saturn (Gem) Tri (Lib) Uranus - sep 1:04' - power: 44.92 Energy representing part of mind that is disciplined, respectful, and solitary is in harmony with energies of individuality, desires for change, and tendency to go against social norms. 3: Uranus (Lib) Opp (Ari) Chiron - app 2:44' - power: 40.83 Energy representing individuality, desires for change, and tendency to go against social norms opposes and creates tension with energies of ability to help, heal, and teach others, and where one has much experience. Balance is needed. 4: Venus (Gem) Con (Gem) Saturn - sep 3:20' - power: 28.44
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so other then he & I (the parents of 3), our daughters, each have "power being emitted, in the natals, of their primary planets operating, of under 50%......) The youngest however, even though it's only 38%, one of her planets is very very detrimental, being SATURN (karma) in the 15th degree of Leo, (considered the worse possible degree of the zodiac). It's very very interesting to contemplate what all this is showing us.,when we understand the symbolism behind the planets themselves. I've come to the conclusion, (tentatively), that as souls we "take on ourselves", as well, a kind of DESTINY, (hence the very powerful over 100% power of Pluto & Saturn), whereas the 3 girls, did not take on themselves this kind of potential, and the potential for them, (sans their OWN choices.......) was approx. half of the power. This then says that they chose themselves, "HOW" and "WHEN" to use this power of the planets, day to day, (less of a destiny to fail, then a potential to go either way, or under 50% probability factor. just a theory so far................. |
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| | From:  Đее | Sent: 1/15/2007 5:11 AM |
Hi Deb, I think I found the page. My highest 3 are: 1: Sun (Can) Con (Can) Mars - orb: +1:37' - power: 15.96
2: Sun (Can) Con (Can) Venus - orb: +1:53' - power: 15.29
3: Sun (Can) Squ (Lib) Midheaven - orb: -2:45' - power: 11.81 The rest were under 10. Just underneath that part, I found some more, but I'm not sure what they mean. I'll just show you 5 of them, as there are 91 of them listed. What would the Aries part of it mean? 1: 6Ari30 Mercury [Gem] & (Cap) Ascendant - 154:09' degree span.
2: 8Ari48 Chiron (Ari) & [Ari] Node - 11:29' degree span.
3: 11Ari46 Mars (Can) & (Cap) Ascendant - 164:40' degree span.
4: 12Ari34 Sun (Can) & (Cap) Ascendant - 166:17' degree span.
5: 13Ari31Venus (Can) & (Cap) Ascendant - 168:11' degree span.
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I put your dob in Dee, and here's what I got: (like me & Ralph, nearing 150% power, is a LOT of power /energy, in a given direction, by the soul, don't you think?????? 1: Uranus (Vir) Con (Vir) Pluto - sep 4:59' - power:146.18
Energy representing individuality, desires for change, and tendency to go against social norms is connected and fused together with energies of destiny, and capacity to transform the self and the outer world. They will affect each other prominently.
2: Pluto (Vir) Con (Vir) Pallas - sep 2:43' - power: 72.53
Energy representing destiny, and capacity to transform the self and the outer world is connected and fused together with energies of tendency to direct energy away from emotional and into mental pursuits. They will affect each
other prominently.
3: Saturn (Ari) Con (Ari) Vesta - app 0:23' - power: 63.53
Energy representing part of mind that is disciplined, respectful, and solitary is connected and fused together with energies of capacity to direct creative
energy into personal or devotional goals. They will affect each other prominently.
4: Uranus (Vir) Con (Vir) Pallas - app 2:16' - power: 60.83
Energy representing individuality, desires for change, and tendency to go
against social norms is connected and fused together with energies of
tendency to direct energy away from emotional and into mental pursuits. They
will affect each other prominently.
5: Saturn (Ari) Opp (Lib) Ceres - sep 0:10' - power: 31.90
Energy representing part of mind that is disciplined, respectful, and solitary
opposes and creates tension with energies of tendency to direct energy to
instinctive, creative, reproductive goals. Balance is needed.
6: Sun (Can) Con (Can) Mars - sep 1:36' - power: 21.67
Energy representing spirit, ego, image of self, and sense of aliveness is connected and fused together with energies of will, energy, activity, and
aggressive, assertive tendencies. They will affect each other prominently.
7: Ceres (Lib) Con (Lib) Juno - app 3:40' - power: 19.53 I only posted the first 7 as there are many more, but all decline in power as you can see by the "descending order". The MOST power then, in your chart is from Uranus in Virgo conjunct Pluto in Virgo! nearing 150% after this, by descending order, Pluto conjunct Pallas is next, and then, Saturn conjunct Vesta (at 53% almost 54%) quite a difference!!!!!! So by far & away, is the first, and more meaningful, IMO, then the others (not because of their lesser power, ) but because they aren't of the 7 planets.,(but asteroids, IMO) So, the Major Power in your chart accdg.to this report, is Pluto & Uranus, two big power planets. Perhaps their "higher frequencies," pertain not to the destructive power of Pluto, but the "transforming power" as I believe Ralph's & mine do??..........only you know that answer. Uranus, in it's "higher frequency", is very "Uranian", and can be a force for psychic awareness, (in it's highest frequency with the other "outer" planets, like Neptune and/or Pluto, IMO. or you could be using the "lower frequencies" of these powerful outer planets, which certainly do doubt.
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again, as a point in Contrast, look at message 18 where I show the difference in Power in the charts of my 3 kids. as compared to mine & his...... You too, are very very powerfully being connected to these two planets. I think Saturn conju.Vesta is rather low, but Pluto & Pallas might be worth investigating, however, personally, I'd disregard these asteroids, except for Chiron, (wounds), and perhaps, Ceres (a new dwarf planet)like Pluto. btw, I don't know what page you looked at? as they are very easy to miss, by scrolling too fast. But the 2nd figures, you posted are the "Span" or degree apart from one another, and not the power of the frequency. |
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| | | From: Đее | Sent: 1/15/2007 11:59 AM |
Thankyou so much for doing that for me Deb. I had a little look at it, but don't have much time to be online tonight, as I need to finish packing for our trip tomorrow. It's almost 11pm. We are going to Sydney for a few days which should be fun. I will copy the info into word and print it out to read properly. Thanks again, Dee |
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or you could be using the "lower frequencies" of these powerful outer planets, which certainly do doubt. TYPO: meant to say, "which I certainly doubt.,that you do." meaning I think you are using the higher frequencies, as per what I know thus far.,it's obvious. I would likewise hope that others may see & learn likewise, that each of us have choices to make, and that the planets, in and of themselves, are (as Edgar Cayce says), "not the issue", but simply "reflect" our own consciousness, and as vibrations themselves, are neither "good nor bad", but simply reflect, in the manner in which we ourselves, with free choicoe, "choose" the reflection then, (whether for good or bad), I call the Higher & lower frequencies of these vibrations. All is Vibration,.........even our kitchen tables, and TV's. There IS nothing else. I think I'm going to try & check out a few more "known" personalities, as to their actions and see what sort of readings I'll get to verify all this. |
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Some info I found concerning "Vibration" in the known universe: then this one is a good link for explanation: it will herein be shown how all vibration is intimately connected to all other vibration thereby demonstrating 1) the interconnectedness of all things and energies; 2) all things are they themselves built up from simple vibration to complex chords using universal principles of vibration alone; 3) there is no such thing as chaos in the universe; 4) all things exist by virtue of harmony among the vibrations that make it what it is; and 5) all things are intimately connected by sympathetic vibration. The universe vibrates from end to end and everything in it. Therefore if we are to investigate and understand this awesome spectacle we are obliged to investigate the nature of vibration. (so when we think of human beings, including ourselves, and we view a natal chart, IMO, we must in order to view it accurately, at least have a "rudimentary", understanding that Vibration, is what comprises the physical universe)......deb's note:) It is generally recognized that everything is a result of vibration and each thing has its own chord of vibration or vibration signature. This state of vibratory condition is characterized in John Keely's Law of Corporeal Vibrations:
"All coherent aggregates when isolated from like bodies, or when immersed or confined in media composed of matter in a different state, vibrate at a given ascertainable pitch." John Keely5
Logically speaking for such a paradigm to exist it would be couched entirely in vibration terms and concepts and would evolve from the simple to the complex addressing atomic phenomena all the way through human activity |
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Dee: I started a new thread to study those in public places whose lives have been an "open book" for the most part, to see just how this power can be applied....... |
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