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Hi everyone!<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> I met an astrologer here in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Caracas</st1:City></st1:place> who granted me a favor to read my chart. He gave a general glance from what he considered appropriate to talk about. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Anyways, he was very kind to speak to me about my past life, he didn’t say much though.<o:p></o:p> From his perception, i worked in the area of psychology, in some experimental area, yet I would only consider the rational branch of psychology. <o:p></o:p> He said that i came to this life, to gain wisdom and reencounter with my past lives. <o:p></o:p> He mentioned, i a new trance of transformation will begin in 3 years, when i turn 22; and during this time my evolution progress will accelerate hastily; and i will receive throughout this, knowledge from my past lives.<o:p></o:p> he talked about my career orientation, that in my future i will be granted a gift, to communicate with others in another level; yet this gift that i would receive would only <o:p></o:p> fulfill if I pass a couple of test.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> - A family karma, when I was born my parents suffered greatly; I told him that just before I was born my mother lost a baby, he was still in the belly; he had about 2 months if I recall correctly.<o:p></o:p>
- He also said, that i was meant to break this family karma, since my parents never come to agreements, since I was a child my home has been clouded by discussions, I’ve been involuntarily affected, indirectly from their disagreement to live in peace.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> - When I turn 22 I might be influenced to change my course of destiny; I will be disoriented by a girl or partner to walk another way.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> He also mentioned that I would encounter many masters in this life; from the orient; very wise people, maybe with a Buddhist influence.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> He said that when the time is right; my knowledge of this world, will trigger into a practical action; all of my knowledge will not be in vain and I my life will demand to bring out the master in me; that I will not spend my life as a teacher of philosophy for example.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> My future is directed to relations, I will continue my path from my past life, but with my ascendant on cancer, i will find equilibrium between my sensitive and rational mind. <o:p></o:p> I will be some sort of peace keeper; I will develop an ability to bring a harmonious environment between people, for their own agreement.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Anyways, all of the things he said left out my negative face that might be shown in the chart; it seems to me, that he ignored that side of me. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> |
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from this Edgar Cayce page: Therefore, before the two great gifts were given (consciousness and free will), God established a simple but universal law: whatever we do with our mind and will comes back to us, not as punishment or retribution but as education and enlightenment. The law (of karma) is intended to help us appreciate the effects of our individual thoughts, words, and actions upon God, others, and even ourselves. We recognize this law when we say, “What goes around, comes around.�?In the scriptures it is written: “As you sow, so shall you reap�? �?STRONG>With what measure you measure, so shall it be measured to you.�?/STRONG> Even proof-oriented scientists observe that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. This is the law of action and reaction, cause and effect, the law of karma. .end ...................................................................................... My advice from living a long life thus far is to always try to "measure out" compassion and empathy and forigiveness, once we realize that their upbringing, (their parents) perhaps neglected them in some manner, which then, they perpetuate. We cannot judge others, without having the strong measure or judgement come back onto us in the end.... In otherwords, "we're all in this pot of soup together, the pot of soup, I call life" One is a pea, another a piece of corn, another a kernal of grain. But all of us together, makes up the family of man. IF some are more inclined towards materialism and money & material values, (that's okay too)........let them be. It's the yoke of oppression of karma, that will then tether them to this mindset that their own emotional needs create. We can't save them from themselves & their own desires, we can only "empathize" and understand a bit, WHY they are like they are. After all, who is perfect??? No one but the Father (as Jesus tells it)......his Father, or the higher Vibration to which we all strive in the end.....to be like. Perhaps, as Ralph once suggested to me, it's true that people, love to "lust after or graviate towards" certain types of material things, that lord it over others, or makes them feel special by owning. I once owned a Cadillac, (it was a real lemon as it was a Diesel, and a lemon of a car), but every now and then all of us want something material to make us feel special don't we? I have a mink coat gathering mothballs now, (we live in the hot desert for 12 yrs. so I cannot wear them) BUT, at one time, they "made me feel special".......to do so. There isn't anything wrong with this.....but the fallacy of material things, is that they DO end up in mothballs, or they DO end up in robber's troughs., as Jesus warned us here: (but its up to the individual themselves, to wake up one at a time to this truism) Perhaps the fact that souls are all trying to "measure up" to this Ideal of perfection, as Jesus claimed our "father in heaven is all about".......that this is why we on earth, all have these great desires to own things, or propel ourselves by admiration to great artisits, or sports heros.....as our minisciule "idea" of a kind of perfection?? Riches Do not store riches for yourselves here on earth, where moths and rust destroy, and robbers break in and steal. Instead store up riches for yourselves in heaven, where moths and rust cannot destroy, and robbers cannot break in and steal. For your heart will always be where your riches are. Matthew 6: 19-21 |
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:S i had to start over everything i wrote :( hiya deb. i can feel so small reading those phrases. its always so nice to read them; it would be better if we could keep up with them. everytime you place those quotes, its like i have nothing more to right lol, nothing i write can be as shiny. i promise ill have something smart to reply some day alright? :) In other words, you yourself, came to this family to learn lessons for your own soul, (regardless of their behaviors).....they only provided you the input for your soul into this realm. <o:p></o:p> <o:p>it gives me a vast space for deliberation, but it also fills an empty hole, such purpose of gnostism can feel quite fullfiling, and in fact I wouldnt disagree with you...</o:p> <o:p></o:p> You "share" then in this vibration with mother. Her sadness became yours, but you already (as a soul), have this propensity to learn from such sadness in this lifetime. <o:p>i understand, but how long can this dependency last? Her sadness radiated on my been..i guess you would say, until my lesson is learned.</o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p> But a Grand Cross is exceedingly difficult then. No doubt about it.<o:p></o:p> Now it's not "bad" per se, but rather hard and the energies no doubt that such a Grand Square causes in one's life, will be felt throughout the life.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Such is life!........we all have a Cross to bear. This one is yours. i dind´t understand very well.. :S
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So, this means that whereever Pluto is, at whatever age, and whatever type of transit, its always harsh, tough and meant to teach us thru it's vibration about growing or evolving consciousness through tough lessons.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> could it be the pluto entering in my 22ths birthday as the other astrologer spoke of?</o:p> <o:p> -
Parents sufferingChiron on the Ascendent shows the pain your mother felt when pregnant, and probably because, as you said, she had lost one child psychological pain then.<o:p></o:p> -
Your father is also the Sun represented in the 7th house of relationships, and is seen as serious (by the sign of Capricorn ), but yet the square Sun makes to Mars, he was too physical and prone to anger as well. -
Saturn in the 7th, says the person you fall in love with with be either older, or more mature then most would be. More serious, as the Capricorn ruler as well as Saturn says.......older, restrictions perhaps, in showing love. Yes, SAturn & Venus together augers, restrictions here, based upon age or maturity..........not easy going as some. Perhaps more cerebral., then fun. He mentioned this. </o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p>im sorry if im wrong, maybe im too trustful with people..</o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p> If anything, try to feel compassion for those who brought you into this world and gave you life, as their lives, even though not perfect, are also fraught with errors that their own souls strive hard to correct. The loss of that baby was very tough on your mother, not only hormonally, but something she always lives with. She deserves your empathy, EVEN if she herself, "seems" lacking to give empathy to others as you would like her to. i was thinking of this in the kitchen this morning.. lets see how it goes.. </o:p> </o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> |
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Ref: Such is life!........we all have a Cross to bear. This one is yours. i dind´t understand very well.. :S -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'll try to explain the way that I believe life is okay? |
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The way I see it, is that each of us, when we come into this life, choose, with the "ok" of our parents, that particular family, because what our lessons are that we are taking on, will"resonate" with what they themselves are attempting to learn also Perhaps, it's as simple a lesson as Patience?.........IF so, then the child may be one to try their patience, day & night,....... Perhaps it's as simple a lesson as Faith? ...........IF so, then maybe you'd have a child as I did, one who (by their actions), will bring this test to you, via any manner of trials which will test your faith in a higher purpose and a higher Ideal. Perhaps the lesson you've taken on this time around is for gaining Empathy, or thinking of other instead of yourself? IF so, then it's possible that the family will be the "antithesis" of all you hold dear to you. They may be very material minded, very grasping, etc. BUT the lesson you are trying to learn of "empathy", can be learned at home first before in the outer world. The test is hard for sure, but it's right before you, the lessons once learned will not need to be repeated, as it will then become part of your souls energy. Seeing others who are close to us, as "neglectful children themselves", can help, when we get frustrated or upset with their behaviors we can try to step outside of the closeness factor, and see them more from a 3rd party perspective. See them in this light will help you. Just as I see my neglectful and very lost daughter, (the youngest), as "lost, sad, in darkness, mentally sick and emotionally devastated", instead of an angry young woman who does everything in her power to hurt others instead of loving others because she herself was hurt badly as a teenager, so NOW, she wishes to inflict harm on others. NOW - if I saw her as the reality she gives to others.......but NOT the more CORRECT way to see her which would be to say, "Why is she this way??" "Who hurt this child to make her so angry, so inflicting of pain onto others who she doesn't care for in life??" I'd then "lose the battle" of my soul's Ideal. I'd be giving in to the ego hurt that I feel, to see her in the way she depicts to the world. Instead, what I do, is to tell her sisters, tell her father, tell her grandmother, tell myself, that the REASON she does these things, is because she is lost - has lost her very soul, to the darker powers....the powers of 1)anger 2)revenge 3) HURT 4)bitterness over this hurt 5) needing to find a scapegoat to blame for her own earlier indiscretions that brought all this horror about. She then becomes "deserving of my sympathy" and not my wrath. .................................................................................................... This is how I want you to see your mother and even your father. Not as the end result of what they do to others or don't do for others, but rather as the "reason why" their behaviors are such. To give them the necessary understanding that they are in the world, to work on themselves, and whether they choose to or not, is not for us to demand of them or insist upon from them. Each of us is an independent soul, who needs to be accountable for our own selves in the end. I (for me), my daughter (for her actions).....YOU for your actions your parents, (for their own actions) YOU will be accountable for only what you give in life, and what you need to give is the fruits of the spirit. 1)Empathy 2)a willingness to be a shoulder to cry on for others 3)a helping hand to all, starting in your own home 4)Forgiveness (you know whether you have difficulty with this one or not 5)Not living in the past, but living in the present moment with each of these people who upset you These things then will help you to "carry your cross" or your burden towards the end goal. The end goal is to overcome whatever pre-dispostion of the soul that keeps the above from occurring spontaneously. Jesus cannot help those who do not want to help themselves. We are free spirits, independent ones, who need to choose which direction to follow, which path. He can't choose that for you. He had his own cross to bear, as we each do. He "overcame" his. Will you?? |
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He (carried his emblematic cross), because he was and IS a "Pattern" shown to us by his love, and willingness to take upon himself a human form to show us that IF he can do it, WE can do it too. The "crosses" we bear, each of us, (whether we are rich like Paris Hilton), or poor (like Mother Teresa), OR whether we are average people who stumble & fall, everyone of us as souls in the world carry a cross (a burden) Perhaps Paris Hilton's "cross", is one she doesn't recognize. Most people are deadened in this world to their own souls. Just look around and see this. Her cross may be "to overcome the ego".......just that simple. Mother Teresa's may have been as her own diaries disclosed, "Keeping faith or developing REAL faith, in spite of all the misery of the world she saw each and every day" ...............she said, she "lost her faith and belief in God often, in her diaries. These then are crosses to bear or burdens (call them karma if you wish, it's the same thing) Mine must have to do with attachments to people, places & things.....all are falling away for me in this lifetime. That's the final thing as a soul one must do, to then not have this in thier consciousness any longer in order to evolve to a higher state of consciousness. As Buddha & Christ taught. This is very very hard on me, I struggle every single day with it, but I'm "forced" to set aside all attachements, due to one daughter'....as a catalyst towards this end. How about you? Your parents are probably the "catalyst" for you, and you just need to figure out for yourself, what it is your soul is trying to learn to overcome? What your particular burden or cross might be. As Jesus told us, IF you allow him, to take part of the cross or burden HE will help you carry it. He (the Christ consciousness) lies within each & every one of us. But first, you need to knock (before the door is opened to you) That's an esoteric truth. He cannot answer & help, if you don't open the door to your own soul through meditation and belief. His life was a pattern a symbolic gesture for us to understand our very selves and our place in this world. Why we are here and what we need to do to get further ahead in our consciousness. Not to be in self-pity, but to grow in faith and beauty as a soul each day. It's hard (I know  ), but the end result will be worth the suffering IF you overcome with grace and dignity . Forgiveness, empathy & love. |
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Think on This ...Keep it [your soul] then in patience, in love, in gentleness, in kindness . . . For these are indeed the fruits of the spirit . . . And remember, a kindness sometimes consists in denying as well as granting those activities in associations with thy fellow man.
Edgar Cayce Reading 5322-1
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Hi Aje: I reposted your post here, with a "shortened" book link (see metamark) to shorten the very long urls.....especially handy for book links that are so long and cumbersome. Hope you don't mind, so check it out it's helpful: I keep it on the General Thread, under "Shorten our Links" because it helps then, not to have to scroll the entire page..when they are too long to read the posts.  my souls encounter through my daily life, has improved vastly in the last 2 years. since i began to conform my independence, through my college, my own friends(my parents wanted me to hang around with "their type of friends,")so as any girlfriend that would pass by, my mother would have her eyes wide open hehe. i am trying to break this dependency as soon as possible; "i am not what they want me to be" and its not as easy to live with conflictive people, who pretend of you to join their way of living. as time passes the more i am convinced "i have a family karma". 2 days ago we had a discussion, and they began to yell at each other because they perceived my been as indifferent to the daily issues; ive been working on that, really; as the discussion went on it was filled with an offensive pattern that my father reactivates(whenever he feels hi authority in been threatened, or his deliberation statement is too weak for my argument) and behind him my mother takes her defensive stance and does the same. i was very calm, as i was been spilled this negative energy, from 2 people. Inside my long term memory, whenever the tone of voice raises between them too; they chop down any means of solution; it is implicitly a "game"(for 22 years it brings me to think, the disputes conform their own excitement of living as a marriage couple); my own posture, my tone of voice was so soft, my words were clean, i drove them into this black hole of madness and i simply decided it was best to step away. i dont know if this will work in the long run, but i´ve decided when i graduate i will live by myself; so i could say; i have 2 years to learn to live in the same house with this people.. my meditation has giving me new perspective of reality, yesterday for example i came across my ex, if you remember she´s the geminis girl i spoke to you a long time ago. when i saw her, my whole body became inhibited and i could feel that my words weren´t flowing, my body was tense and so as my respiration; so i began to concentrate on my body and suddenly this warm wave swam through my chest and by arms, my face, my hands; and i was buffed on joy, my friends thought i was "high" or something lol A week ago i had another discussion with my dad, his offensive tone came to atmosphere again and when i sat on my chair alone, i could use this pain through meditation to reach a better understanding of my own body, its complexity and its reactions to fear and hatred. the antithesis you speak of; i would refer to a book i read "the power of now" in order to reach the state of silence you must have noise and sound. in order to reach such death, you need life. in order to reach the state of enlightment he makes this analogies which; arent necessarily his; because you may find this in ancient writings, he refers to his book as been nothing new; the energy in which each word is writing is what intrinsically emanates spirituality, "and the now" here´s a link of the whole book if your interested :P well deb.  see ya around. 8oogle book url: |
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"The Power of NOW" is a wonderful book by Eckhart Toole. I'm going to read it NOW and comment later on it. I'm glad you are working on it and ultimately your relationships with your parents Aje, as they will always be "your parents", even into their old age. Best to get use to knowing how to handle them  and better sooner then later. |
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Hi Deb ! This is a very nice book ! I read it about 2 years ago and still practice almost every day some of the things he teaches there... I especially love how to "silence one's mind"... you will like it very much ! Let us know what you think about it when you finish it ! Cheers, Leah |
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Hey Leah, good to see you here  I think his book is a masterpiece. By that not that these things haven't been said, over & over and over again, by Jesus, by the Gnostic gospels, by Siddharthat and other great teachers, and certainly by Edgar Cayce I'd include as a great teacher who followed the christ consciousness and taught it too. BUT it's a masterpiece because in this day and age, and venecular of TV (Oprah's, etc.), we need someone who speaks the language that people can understand to say these old truths over again in new way, cloaked in new "today" language. Here is a great way that Edgar Cayce gave towards doing exactly what this man suggests, "training the mind to the NOW"..... Edgar suggested that when we get upset, or even irritated, (say in a checkout line that a person is giving someone a hard time, causing you to wait, and wait,........... Instead of getting angry and the thoughts start leading you instead of you leading the thought; try this exercise: Say to yourself, "What have we here??" then wait for the answer. Say again, "What have we here?" and with constant repitition of this small phrase, every time one gets upset, you will start to get answers within yourself. The answer may be "Well we have here, a person, (in the checkout line), who is in need of being recognized, noticed, or just had a bad hair day,  .......so I shouldn't get upset with her/him, I should realize this. or the next time your friend says, "Why didn't you invite me, when you invited others?" Instead of just thinking bad thoughts about the person, say, "What have we here??" "What have we here with her??
And you will then be told, perhaps the truth, like "Well she hates to be left out because she was adopted and always felt "less then" and she's hurt" The point of the exercise Cayce recommends to us, is to help train the mind towards the NOW as well as towards judgemental thoughts, to retrain ourselves, to be less judgemental and more largesse.... It's a thought exercise then. So I think it's not only worthwhile, but we should read it every time we get down and over again often in life, to remind ourselves, that it's only the Ego that gets in the way between us and our higher self. There is nothing else. Jesus said, "Knock, and the door will be opened " How many knock?? How many even bother to look within for the true answers that lie there? As Tolle said, the beggar sits on the box, never thinking to look inside of it. good analogy.  |
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I also like the way he says that we "keep the past alive" because, "without it, the ego, doesn't know itself".....who are you?? Thats very true isn't it?......IF we truly buy into the notion that the ego IS the self, (which I do not), I realize, it's only a transitory vehicle we travel in .......and isn't my true self, and it will vanquish, and be relinquished upon death (after the astral body is relinquished) .....we then are the higher self, and not any one ego body, (or reincarnational self), so that's a good thing he's pointing out here in a way people can understand the folly of thinking of "past memories", as if that really is us.  Instead it's only a manifestation of the ego, "in time"......not something which might be held onto.......it's poof ! gone, as all "us" is gone after the moment passes. (the ego self) (Page 24 I refer to speaking of the ego and the past ) Excellent remembrance (should get the entire book out of the Library) ...  |
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hello! im very glad you liked the book deb! its great really, through this book ive awaken a new stage in my life, it was an impulse i needed like an ocean, vastly of feelings; music sounds diferent now, blue is something deeper, its tone of brightness consuming itself, in the blueish. i recomend you read it as if you would read a poem; its not philosophy in any way, the lesson you learn is the feeling that invades inside like the smell of something very familiar, like a father. then any parmenidian or platonic analogy will seem in vain, you wont mind if hes wrong or mispelled. then youll enjoy it |
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compassion, wow i really felt it today.. |
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NOW, after the book, takes effort during the life to "live" the book's message. When we have no book, only memory of the right action. And Compassion IS "right action or intention" 2. Right Intention While right view refers to the cognitive aspect of wisdom, right intention refers to the volitional aspect, i.e. the kind of mental energy that controls our actions. Right intention can be described best as commitment to ethical and mental self-improvement. Buddha distinguishes three types of right intentions: 1. the intention of renunciation, which means resistance to the pull of desire, 2. the intention of good will, meaning resistance to feelings of anger and aversion, and 3. the intention of harmlessness, meaning not to think or act cruelly, violently, or aggressively, and to develop compassion. |
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