I have never nor will I ever attempt to shop on Black Friday. Waiting in line for 3 hours to save a few bucks doesn't appeal to me.

I hope the store has a camera and that, combined with the credit card slips, will allow the police to arrest any that can be seen stepping on him. Keep their collective asses in jail until AFTER the holidays. Dirt bags. 

They interviewed  a number of reporters trying to find out why this location had such horrific results. Most of the reporters commented that there is usually security at these events. Usually both store and other security. This store apparently has none. only a few 3 or 4 empolyees to control thousands of shoppers.

 

While there can be no excuse for the behavior of the shoppers who were aware of what was happening, clearly the stores action or lack of, makes them liable also.

Having been a vicitim of a scenario just like this, I can sort of understand how the man was killed.

If you are at the front of the crowd, you get pushed from behind. Your only option is to fall and get trampled or stay upright. You panic, don't look down and just try to get out of the surge. It's very scary. I know.

So, the majority of people who stepped on this man did not do so intentionally. Even the person(s) who knocked him down probably did not do so intentionally. It was the force of the crowd behind them.

 

I got caught on the edge of an unopened double door as a crowd surged into the open side. I could not move or breathe, as I was being shoved into the frame. Luckily someone grabbed my arm and dragged me away. I had huge bruises on my chest and stomach.

 

This is why they outlawed general admission seating at concerts and such. It's happened before.

 

The stores should put up blockades that form lines for admission. Much like at an amusement park.

 

Mugg, i cannot tell you why i have tolerated your not even thinly veiled racist posts for so long on this board, but i have. I will NO LONGER ignore you racist spew. I deleted your post and i do not want to EVER see another such post on this board or you will be banned. This is not open to discussion, so i suggest you dont argue or try to defend you post. Everyone here is very aware of this side of you. So STOP right now or you will not be allowed at FMH any longer. The End.

 

 

Oh, so Message #11 is the reason Muz is leaving. I didn't read the deleted post.

 

 

I agree with Jan about how these scenarios happen, once it begins everyone is powerless to stop or control it and once caught up in it you have to either go with the flow or yourself be trampled.....BUT

Yes the retailer as well as the consumer and those in this crowd can darn well be blamed and held accountable....First the Retailer For Creating this mass mob shopping mentality.......I saw this coming many years ago when the utter Stupidity of the Cabbage Patch dolls had old ladies getting beat up over a Gawd damned stuffed doll. A doll which I might add was in the $1 boxes at yard sales a mere couple of years later......

They created a survival of the fittest attitude to be the esteemed owner of one of these fiber filled pieces of rags, and the madness and Stupidity has grown since then...And thats where I blame the consumers for allowing themselfs to be manipulated by such materialism that allows themself to be reduced to mere animals, all for the sake of the must have $500.00 TV, and to have any less or pay a penny more for said TV somehow makes you a lesser member of society.

So Yes I directly Blame the Manipulating Retailer and the Manipulated Consumer for this mans death.

To me there is no product out there whether its a TV for a $1 or even a car for $100, worth an innocent persons death.

I have come to Discover these so called Black Friday bargains are not always bargains either, most times by the last few days before X-mas these same products and goods will be in abundance in the store and for around the same price as the black friday bargain was....and if not a necessity, such as a gift for someone who will not be around after X-mas, and its just a product you want, if you wait until the after holidays sales you can get an even better bargain and possibly even a better product.

 

Wanna win the war on X-mas? Then fight the battle where it will count, tell the retailers to heck with you and your black friday stupidty avoid the stores and the crowds on that day, don't buy the must have craze of the moment electronics or stuffed dolls, go back to the basics of the gifts you remember loving as a kid like purses, perfumes, slippers, board games etc. believe me the retailer will very soon be forced to lower the price of those high end items and have plenty of them in stock through out the holiday season...Ask yourself will I, my child, or aunt Minnie die if I dont get them a $20 Wii system for X-mas....I can give you the Answer..NO they will NOT...and in fact may learn to appreciate the small things in Life and Even the Better part of the Holiday if you don't.

You ban someone for saying dumass but not for racists comments?  This country has a long way to go.