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Bliss of Heroin : The Crave
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(3 recommendations so far) Message 1 of 34 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameBladedWitchytweek  (Original Message)Sent: 10/14/2003 2:12 PM
I guess I'm having such a hard time trying to get over these that i'm driving myself crazy. I understand that it's just in my head but how can I possibly go through the day without the crave. I really want some but hold myself back for I hate the dissappointment that comes after the use. HELP! Does anyone have any advice on this. I'm sure there is someone here that has had some mad cravings.....please any help will do something. Thank you for you time.
Tweek


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 Message 20 of 34 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSuziblues2Sent: 3/31/2006 1:03 PM
Shannon, thats hilarious:  potpie!!!!   You made me laught first thing this morning.  Glad things are working out with you and Arron.  My sister, who died, left a son, MIckey, who I was being a suragate mom/friend to.  Well, he is doing good too.  He moved out on his own and is working and being a real person.  I miss him.
 
well, thanx for the snicker this morning.

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From: MSN Nicknamejustygreed1Sent: 4/3/2006 7:57 PM
well from what I see reevovery and relapse go hand in hand. I'm a veteran of many detoxes,clinics,suboxone and last but not least prison. My wife and I had some sucess with methadone but we just filled our needles with coke. We are both off the clinic now and headed back into a full blown habbit. Anyways I love the fact that HoH is a forum for all stages af heroin addiction!!!!!!!
 
                                                                                             Much Love,
 
                                                                                                                Justygreed

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From: MSN NicknameBLACKIEMACKIESent: 4/4/2006 12:06 AM
what is time but a concept to a few of us.
could time just be something to go by?
like this thread, is it or could it be the neverending thread?
who has the time to sweat the small stuff?
tell me ,grasshoper!!lol
 

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From: IndigoSent: 4/10/2006 10:52 PM
Freeisstillmyguide  --   Thank you for taking the time to reply--Your words really hit home----I can't tell you how much I miss FreeeeSpirit--& how many beautiful memories she left me with in such a short time--What I uniquely gentle soul!! I smile whenever I think of her...
   Yes, I also crave for the old faithful romance I had with heroin--its mostly lost its magic--or my body can no longer react to the heroin in that priceless magical place it once took me to--I still chip once every few months but its not the same--most of the magic is gone--I never understood what people in 12 Step programs meant when they said " that their worst days in recovery are better then their best days using"--they must have had some shitty dope-lol--
    Luckily for me I still find the magic, but today I find it in my kids, my wife, my friends, walking outdoors in a park, listening or playing music, reading etc etc. But I'll NEVER forget the torrid romance of heroin---
      Thanks for the memories--- Indigo aka Isacc

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From: MSN Nicknamebestbargirl-38Sent: 9/12/2006 9:23 AM
m pretty new to this ive only posted once a nd no replies.Ive been doing drugs coke mainly and booze for 23 yrs in the last yr heroin,im hooked i tried rehab left after 10 gruling days of sickness and like a moron started again weeks later.i shoot it which i never did,i need off of it.is it possible to wean off?????I went back to school today first time in 20 yrs(i was a bartender)im taking interior decorating full time,i need help i got married in feb hes supportive but sick of my crap.He does coke ,not daily though.Anyone have a suggestion im lost and hate this evil drug.

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From: MSN Nicknamecitygirl2006Sent: 9/12/2006 3:02 PM
Truely i dont think there is a way to wean off.. I tried and it never worked. I would go to your local doctor and ask about Suboxone. That seemed to be the only thing that really worked for me http://suboxone.com/ .
 

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From: MSN NicknameLovingmom2433Sent: 9/12/2006 10:29 PM
Bestbargirl,  Hi,  IM sorry NO one responded when you posted last time, That doesnt happen very often and i wouldnt take it personally.
I agree compleltly with what city girl has told you.
Try the link she posted and also do a search of suboxone.
I have heard alot of postive things about it.
GOOD for you that your taking interior design classes,
Love Karen

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From: cyber-junkieSent: 9/14/2006 1:14 PM
hey pplz,
i've just gotten off a massive bender, i think this one lasted 9 months!!  been on & off heroin amongst other things for the past 14 years or so.  my latest binge started off with just a few casual lines of coke going out with friends which became more & more frequent, then the temptation to mix just a tiny bit of hammer, & more, & more!!  a few weeks ago i went to see a tantric shaman who suggested i try ayahuasca, which is a plant found throughout south america, it brings about an quite a hallucinogenic experience, which if not controlled can be a bit unpleasant but at it's peek can be like the moment buddha felt enlightenment under the bodhi tree.  definately not something for everyone to experience, but can definately help ppl see things from a different perspective.
L8R.....
cyber~junkie

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From: MSN Nicknamerideordie1Sent: 9/15/2006 9:42 PM
Hi Bestbargirl,
Way to go for starting classes. I hope you do well in them. I know when I was using, and I was an IV H addict also, I could not keep up with my school work and do a good job. I had way too many other things going on, the chaos and confusion that goes with using, and finally had to drop out. Now that I'm in recovery I will probably go back to classes next fall.
As for the detox, when I went in they gave me Clonidine (Catapres) to ease the withdrawal symptoms. It worked along with Phenergan and some other stuff. But mainly the Clonidine eased the withdrawal crap. It took me about 2 weeks in detox before I was even able to leave and go to a long term recovery program. So I know what you're talking about when you're in withdrawal and trying to get the stuff out of your system. It's hard. I don't care what anyone says, it's truly hard to do and it takes time. Here, where I live, they really try to detox you in 3 days. Yeah right! It doesn't work for H users, no way!! And the places that try to do it without any meds, it's crazy. It generally doesn't work. But find a detox center that uses meds to decrease the symptoms and try to get in there for a couple of weeks. If they won't keep you that long, request the meds to take home. But whatever you do, DON'T give up. You can kick this habit. And my suggestion after you detox is to find some NA meetings to attend. NA has saved my ass on many occasions, but I still have cravings and sometimes just want to use! It is a horrible drug, but I love it - and it's hard to let go of it, but I realize I cannot control my using. If you ever need to talk, please e-mail me and I'll be more than happy to talk to you. I know what you're going through and my heart goes out to you. Remember, any day that you don't use, you're a miracle! Hang in there and just don't give up!!!! 

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 Message 29 of 34 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamebestbargirl-38Sent: 9/20/2006 9:31 AM
its my 2nd week in school,its such an intense program being that its a 2 yr program in 6 months.After 6 hrs at school ive been doing at least 5 hrs homework a night....Thank god for people and family helping me get organizxed.Im so tired and overwhelmed i cant even think,of course adding h to the pic.makes life so much harder.I have to finish this course no matter what.I need to do well and prove i can.What to do about the h,how can i afford to be sick on top of all my work.HELP,im so exahusted how do i manage??????????????????good night
 

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From: MSN Nicknamebestbargirl-38Sent: 9/23/2006 3:56 AM
thanx for responding i just got out of school its crazy all the work.I do homework until at least 2 am its so hard and frustrating especially with the h problem.How screwed am i ive started doing coke again all the time too just to stay awake.I am determined to finish this course prove i can.i am so exahusted though i just want to cry.I have so much to do im overwhelmed dont know where to start.Sorry about my lack of punc.i dont have the energy...hope to hear from u again.
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From: rideordie1

Hi Bestbargirl,
Way to go for starting classes. I hope you do well in them. I know when I was using, and I was an IV H addict also, I could not keep up with my school work and do a good job. I had way too many other things going on, the chaos and confusion that goes with using, and finally had to drop out. Now that I'm in recovery I will probably go back to classes next fall.
As for the detox, when I went in they gave me Clonidine (Catapres) to ease the withdrawal symptoms. It worked along with Phenergan and some other stuff. But mainly the Clonidine eased the withdrawal crap. It took me about 2 weeks in detox before I was even able to leave and go to a long term recovery program. So I know what you're talking about when you're in withdrawal and trying to get the stuff out of your system. It's hard. I don't care what anyone says, it's truly hard to do and it takes time. Here, where I live, they really try to detox you in 3 days. Yeah right! It doesn't work for H users, no way!! And the places that try to do it without any meds, it's crazy. It generally doesn't work. But find a detox center that uses meds to decrease the symptoms and try to get in there for a couple of weeks. If they won't keep you that long, request the meds to take home. But whatever you do, DON'T give up. You can kick this habit. And my suggestion after you detox is to find some NA meetings to attend. NA has saved my ass on many occasions, but I still have cravings and sometimes just want to use! It is a horrible drug, but I love it - and it's hard to let go of it, but I realize I cannot control my using. If you ever need to talk, please e-mail me and I'll be more than happy to talk to you. I know what you're going through and my heart goes out to you. Remember, any day that you don't use, you're a miracle! Hang in there and just don't give up!!!! 

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From: MSN Nicknamebestbargirl-38Sent: 9/24/2006 3:29 AM
where do u live if u dont mind me asking i live in vancouver canada im 38...........ive worked in bars waitressing ,bartending and stripping for 17 yrs.this is why i need to better myself if i dont kill myself first.im not serious.talking to someone who understands helps me through the day somehow,id love to keep in touch.my name is samra im 38 and not to sound conceited but i got through life on my body and looks(theres lots of blind people in van. ha,ha))What do u do if u dont mind me asking????????????Back to homework for me kep in touch if you have time.................thanx again for taking time to listen...................

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 Message 32 of 34 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamebehindlisSent: 9/28/2006 2:03 PM
Wouldn't it be nice if there was a graph or display of what'The Bliss Of Herion' cost?
Then we could get high that first time and see what it would cost us if we went back for seconds.
The living example of irony = the bliss of heroin.
There is a fine line between love and hate, pain and plessure.

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From: MSN NicknameiwannabefreeeSent: 9/28/2006 5:05 PM
Welcome home to HOH  bestbargirl!!!
sweetie i missed your postings on this thread or would have jumped in sooner.  mostly these days i am scanning  the General thread and just posting sporadically.  you deserve all the support this site has to offer (which is a lot ).  ya might try to be a bit more visible and consider starting a current new thread so as to let others here get a feel for you so you will get more feedback.  
 as you read through others postings, or if ya read back through old posts, you will read of many others I am sure you will relate to.  I encourage you to pay attention to 2 of the women in particular who remind me of your story :  my former sister/friend freeespiritt (my mentor then and still today in some spiritual way I believe) who has transcended this world and moved to the next,  and also thunderkiss, who is doing fantastic and soon to give birth.  Both of these ladies danced in the sex/adult entertainment industry, in part to support there addiction.  I danced too at several points in my past but could not hang well in that lifestyle.  I always quickly dropped out and dove into straight prostitution as I was really ate up enuff if I was opting to work in that industry (great money but too triggering of past trauma for me) that I could not hold the facade well enough to just dance. 
 
I have been told that if nothing changes, nothing changes...but that freedom from active addiction and meaningful internal peace are available to me if I am willing to embark on a genuine recovery quest.  For me that includes having a strong connection/identification with other dope fiends who are trying to live differently today as well.  I have a long history of fucken up my attempts to stay clean but have a few months of being clean on methadone now.
 
good luck, and keep sharing with us.
Shannon

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From: MSN Nicknamebestbargirl-38Sent: 9/30/2006 2:04 AM
thanx for your encouragment i really need it today.I am so tired (mentally as well)i have had a bad,bad few days right now i need sleep and food!!!!!!!!!!!!!i am way too thin at the moment,ive always had problems with anorexia as well.I am sorry i feel like im whining last thing u want to hear.I would like to share some more if its o.k with u,but right now i need sleep and food,its been a few days.School is also really overwhelming but good.I feel so messed up l. am .                           thanx again  samra
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Welcome home to HOH  bestbargirl!!!
sweetie i missed your postings on this thread or would have jumped in sooner.  mostly these days i am scanning  the General thread and just posting sporadically.  you deserve all the support this site has to offer (which is a lot ).  ya might try to be a bit more visible and consider starting a current new thread so as to let others here get a feel for you so you will get more feedback.  
 as you read through others postings, or if ya read back through old posts, you will read of many others I am sure you will relate to.  I encourage you to pay attention to 2 of the women in particular who remind me of your story :  my former sister/friend freeespiritt (my mentor then and still today in some spiritual way I believe) who has transcended this world and moved to the next,  and also thunderkiss, who is doing fantastic and soon to give birth.  Both of these ladies danced in the sex/adult entertainment industry, in part to support there addiction.  I danced too at several points in my past but could not hang well in that lifestyle.  I always quickly dropped out and dove into straight prostitution as I was really ate up enuff if I was opting to work in that industry (great money but too triggering of past trauma for me) that I could not hold the facade well enough to just dance. 
 
I have been told that if nothing changes, nothing changes...but that freedom from active addiction and meaningful internal peace are available to me if I am willing to embark on a genuine recovery quest.  For me that includes having a strong connection/identification with other dope fiends who are trying to live differently today as well.  I have a long history of fucken up my attempts to stay clean but have a few months of being clean on methadone now.
 
good luck, and keep sharing with us.
Shannon

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