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| | From:  Suziblues2 (Original Message) | Sent: 4/22/2004 4:25 AM |
Why can't I quit shooting up heroin? I've been on methodone (again) for about 3 months now, I'm not sick anymore because of the meth. But I keep shooting up. I barely feel the heroin, but I keep doing it. Why can't I just NOT DO IT ANYMORE? |
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Rosie, opiate addiction is a disease like
any other disease such as diabetes or depression and some people require
medication along with counseling just like one who may have a chemical imbalance
for depression. With opiate addiction there are only a couple of drugs that
really work one is methadone and the other is buprenorphine and it depends on
the patient as far as which one may be indicated first. Before he can treated
for hepc he would have to be free of drug abuse. Without knowing his history he
probably would be better off being stabilized on methadone when he decides to go
for hepc tx. In googles search engine do a search on heroin addiction and
then another for methadone and you will get more info than you would be able to
read.
Claude
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| From: Rosie |
Hello Irene
My name is Rosie i am not taking heroin or any other kind
of drugs but there is some one very special in my life that has
been clean for over 18 months up to 9 weeks ago and now he is
back to square one i am so angry with him he also contracted hep
c from taking heroin the last time my s breaking but i am willing to do what ever it takes to
help him and to be there with as much suport as i can give him,
I love this guy like there is no tomorrow we have been through a
lot together over the years.
I really want him to get clean so he can some treatment for
the hep c if you can tell me anything about heroin i will
listen and do what ever it takes he was not well at all today he
was very yellow i would love to recieve any advice from
anyone please i am so scared i am going to loose him thank you
for taking the time to read
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Hey Rosie, I know it is so hard to watch people we love make bad choices, because i have been making bad choices for years. I have been clean for 6 months and and 10 days and yes i'm counting. It's been one of the hardest things i've ever done but it also is definitely the best. For me i didn't get clean until i felt like i had no other options. I was just sick of living like that. I definitely shot dope against my own will and better judgement but i felt that i had no way out. See if your friend is willing to go to detox and what worked for me so far is that i am in a six month residential program. Just being out of the mix especially for the first couple of months is what got me through wanting to use. I never believed that people could get clean and go through life without doing drugs but i'm doing it and so are alot of other people so it can happen for those of us who think we are lost causes. I also have people in my life that i love that are still active. My brother and sister. And the only thing i can do for them is give them some information and not judge them. So the only thing i can tell you is that continue to love him , everybody has stumbling blocks but he has to continue to try. And you need to take care of yourself or his addiction will make you sicker than it makes him. Hang in there and don't ever feel like you have anything to do with his choices, because it isn't about whether he loves you or not, if love had anything to do with addiction we would all be cured!!!! |
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| | | From: Marco | Sent: 6/5/2004 6:40 PM |
Hey honesty- your name suits you. I thought I'd heard/read everything, but your last sentence really struck me in my heart: "if love had anything to do with it we'd all be cured." Truer words have never been spoken. Marco |
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Hey Susie;from my experience,it generally takes 4-6 weeks to start sleeping ok and feeling physically decent when you get off of methadone,providing you detox slowly.My advice is to be sure you're ready to get off the juice because YOU are ready to stop and not because of pressure from friends or family.The last time I detoxed,I was on 90 mg/day,went to jail and detoxed cold turkey.I felt horrible for over 2 months,but taking Motrin(800 mg 3x daily) for body aches helped ALOT.I don't think the number of MG's matters as much as you might think,just take it slowly,especially at the very end.Taking a month or so to come off the last 5mg seems to help most people.Some programs let you come down 1 mg at a time at the end which makes things easier.Detoxing's the easy part,staying clean is what's hard. |
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In reply to Suziblues2 , I think you need to get away from People, Places and Things. If your NOT feeling it anymore, then why do it. Think of it this way. The next time you need something, think about how you just bought your dealer a new car or a tv that your kids could have used or a new pair of shoes or whatever, you just bought it for your dealers kids but your kids are still in need because you got high (only this time didnt' feel it cause your on methadone) .. I finally got my husband and myself to stop after realizing we were sick of buying our dealer new stuff while our family was hurting for the things they should have had. Anyway.. Try the just for today i won't use theory and if it means just for the next 1/2 hour I wont' use, then try that.. and soon 1/2 hours become hours and hours become days and days become weeks and so on and so forth and before you know it, Your clean and dont' even care about doing it .. I never thought I would say that and YES I still get urges but I dont' have to act on them today.. I dont' want to be the piece of shit addict anymore. I want to be a human being who can function on methadone. Good Luck. |
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| | | From: Rinses | Sent: 8/1/2004 6:03 PM |
| Going cold turkey off of Methadone is not recommended. However, you can expect to suffer approximately 20-30 days depending on your metabolism. Methadone is used as a detox from Heroin due to the fact that it has a longer half-life then most opiates. Thus it will stay in your system longer. A lot of addicts proclaim that its easier to go cold Turkey off of Heroin since it leaves your system quicker. |
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| | | From: vinny | Sent: 10/8/2004 9:48 AM |
Hi Suziblues - I don't understand WHY you're trying to give it up. From my perspective, being high on heroin is the GREATEST experience imaginable. I absolutely LOVE it. Vinny |
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My 1.5 cents...
Vinny, you've said you're in a position where your use isn't a problem and I totally accept that.
However, I'd say that your case is the exception. A whole lot of other people encounter serious consequences when using. That's why they try to give it up.
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Vinny, you saying to suziblue "you cant understand why she is giving it up" shows you have not hit bottom, "YET"!!!!! You play with fire and you ARE going to get burned !!! It takes some people longer then others but EVERYONE'S number comes up, you cannot avoid it !!! Just because you havnt been affected by it YET dont fool yourself and think you are invincable.....or more powerfull then HEROIN.....you arent...that bitch plays for keeps and once you fall you are going to fall HARD. Not that I wish that on my worst enemy but it is just a FACT of HEROIN USE...it eventually brings the best of us to our knees. Yes, Heroin is the greatest high in the world...I do admit that, but that is why it is so fuckin BAD !!! No matter how long I am away from it it continues to call me and I have to make a conscious decision EVERYDAY not to use. You are "NOT" special, if it hasnt happened yet it will soon enough !!! Good luck bro, I hope you stop before it gets the best of ya !!! I mean that. PEACE!!! BULL
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I'm sorry, and I am usually a nice person, but you really SUCK to make a comment like that. You make me sick. Say whatever you want about me.... I stand by what I have said. I come on here for consolidation not to hear shit like that. LOSER. |
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Vinny, You have been a member of H of H for sometime now and most the time you sound down and all alone. The only time you seem happy is when your talk about using H. How could that be??? I guess if it works for you more power to you but It can be dangerous telling people its the greatest experience you have ever had. I would hate for some 16 or 17 yr old to come here, read it and think why NOT??? I will give it a try, Love Karen |
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Morning All,,,  From my posts its obvious to anyone that during my active addiction and during my entire recovery I have asked the question "why"...I have come to the conclusion that the "why" doesnt make a damn bit of difference to me...I'm an addict its as simple as that,,,so I believe if I can rid myself of the obsession to answer the "whys",,,I will be much better off...Now,,,for me the question becomes how I can do this and "why" must I do this???............Damn the mind of this addict is scaryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.....LOLOLOL...Be at peace all...  FC |
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wow. I wrote that post way up there 2 years ago and beleive it or not I can now answer my own question. The reason I couldn't stop using heroin was very simple: it was because I was (and still am) living with an active heroin user. It is impossible to stop using heroin when you are living with somebody who uses. I can take breaks for several days I can live a 'normaler' life now, and things are really good for me now, thank god, but I'm not that strong YET where I can just totally stop. I shouldn't say it's "impossible" to NOT use when living with an active user, but it's damn hard not to use and maybe one fine day I'll be able to handle it all the time. But I fear that when I detox off the methadone I will be back to using every day. Maybe I'm one of those people who will need to be on methadone for the rest of my life, I dont know. But it's such a nice morning and I dont want to think about all that right now. luv, sue ps: Vinny, their are a million reasons why I dont want to shoot heroin any more. I dont really feel that wonderful, almighty rush anymore....it's against the law, it's unhealthy to be shooting stuff into my viens that I really dont know exactly what it is, my kids dont like it..........etc. etc. pss: that reminds me. There is bad dope going around in the Detroit area and people are dying. It seems they are using phenatol (sp.? cancer pain med) as a mix with the heroin and it's making people die. It was on the news yesterday, but the dope man already warned my husband about it last week. |
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Hi Honestyhurts... I would like to thank you SO much for your message about love... I lost my 21 yr old son to heroin only 8 short weeks ago... I have tortured myself to the extreme where i thought I was going mad... I loved my son with all my heart.. and just hoped he knew that.. I tried to help him.. we were getting through it and he got himself a place to live and was doing it up... he was a very new user... everyone tells me he knew i loved him but part of me wondered so much as I kept thinking surely if he knew how much me, his dad, brother, sister and all his relatives loved and needed him in their lives then he wouldnt have ever touched the stuff... but after reading your message.. it has made me see things differently.. and made such a difference to the start of my day,... thank you so so much for that... take care.. god bless you all. sharon xx |
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I have only just noticed the date you sent that mail.. i thought all these posts were recent.. never mind.. hope your still about on here to appreciate the good you have done me today anyway.. take care.. sharon xx |
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