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From: MSN Nicknamebestbargirl-38  (Original Message)Sent: 10/14/2006 8:09 PM
i am honestly losing my mind or feel like it,i cant remember where ive posted messages etc..........i donyt think ive ever been so stressed in my life,i  need off this damn life ruining drug where do  io begin?????????????????At least my husbands cleaned up his act working every day no booze or coke,thank god.And thank god hes never tried h!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!He is trying to be really supportive in his own way,he has a bit of a communication problem.He really is trying to make up to menas he should.,Anyone with advice or just anyone who wants to chat e-mail me please im really depressed and feeling alone and overwhelmed wiyh schoolwork,my car accident and this drug i hate more than anything in the world..I hope everyone is ok it really has helped listening to everyone,thanx


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From: MSN Nicknamerosemaries_momSent: 10/21/2006 4:05 AM
Hey Bestbargirl,
What can I do to help? I will listen and give you any advice I can. Yes, you need to quit the h. I can't tell you how to do that, but you need to get whatever help you can find to help you make it. My baby girl (21) died of a methadone overdose in February. She was trying to quit and had just finished a longterm rehab. From what I have been able to piece together from reading the stuff she left behind, a lot of her struggle ended up being linked to her relationships she had-boyfriends and friends and screwing up because of a disapointment over a relationship gone bad. I think she would have been better off if she had decided to be alone until she got her own crap together, because it seemed that the different stresses over these relationships pulled her dow. I don't know if this is an option for you, but you may want to consider it. Anyway, hope this helps some. If now, just write and tell me you need to vent and I won't bug you with my commentaries. I knew plenty about drugs, but nothing about h. I am slowly learning and want to do what I can to encourage others struggling. You will be in my prayers. Love, Rosemary

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From: MSN Nicknamebestbargirl-38Sent: 10/21/2006 12:50 PM
sorry,i thought methadone was to help get off heroin?Am i wrong,im a little
ignorant in this subject,i shouldnt be.
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Hey Bestbargirl,
What can I do to help? I will listen and give you any advice I can. Yes,
you need to quit the h. I can't tell you how to do that, but you need to
get whatever help you can find to help you make it. My baby girl (21) died
of a methadone overdose in February. She was trying to quit and had just
finished a longterm rehab. From what I have been able to piece together
from reading the stuff she left behind, a lot of her struggle ended up being
linked to her relationships she had-boyfriends and friends and screwing up
because of a disapointment over a relationship gone bad. I think she would
have been better off if she had decided to be alone until she got her own
crap together, because it seemed that the different stresses over these
relationships pulled her dow. I don't know if this is an option for you,
but you may want to consider it. Anyway, hope this helps some. If now,
just write and tell me you need to vent and I won't bug you with my
commentaries. I knew plenty about drugs, but nothing about h. I am slowly
learning and want to do what I can to encourage others struggling. You will
be in my prayers. Love, Rosemary

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From: MSN Nicknamecitygirl2006Sent: 10/22/2006 2:52 AM
ya methadone is to help people with Heroin addiction but from what Ive heard (ive never used methadone) its harder to get off the methadone then it is ther heroin... I used Suboxone and moved 900 miles away from where i was living (cant do drugs if you dont know anyone haha) anyways im not on H today nor have I been for the last 2 or 3 months, been doing some coke so it appears that Ive just traded off but i think Im done with that too...
Ive been hearing alot about methadone overdoses lately, its a very powerful drug - if there is anyway you can get the Suboxone or go cold turkey (trust me I know how hard that is, I couldnt or done it - I did it once and I wanted to kill myself) that would be the best....
 

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From: MSN Nicknamerosemaries_momSent: 11/5/2006 1:23 AM
Hi BBG,
I have had a helluva time. Sorry for the delay in my response. Others on the board know a lot more than I do about methadone, etc., but you are not wrong. It is used to help recovering addicts get off of H. My daughter bought it on the street tho and either her tolerance was down because she was clean so long or she took too much of it. She took it in pill form, didn't shoot it or anything. Heck, I don't know if that is even done! Like I said, I am trying to learn more.
I think my main point was that you may need to get away from the hubby (at least for a while) to gain some perspective. You've written quite a few frantic posts that seem to mostly revolve around him and the upheaval he seems to cause in your life. I may be off the mark, but that's how it looks from this end.
I hope you are managing to continue w/ school. I think that it is something that has kept you from completely sinking. You seem committed to finishing. If that's your rope to keep you from drowning, hold on to it with everything you've got.

Hugs,

r.

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From: GettinthereSent: 11/9/2006 2:56 AM
I'm a little late on this one. Sorry.
 
Rosemarie, I want to say I am so, so sorry for the loss of your daughter. 21!!!!!!!!!! I am so sorry.
 
Honestly, I am glad I didn't take the methadone route. I certainly was offered it as was every other addict in my last detox. They were also doing some kind of study. Looking back now it was probably sub's. They pushed it on us so hard I thought no way. Offered all kinds of incentives too. Like each day you went for bloods to check levels and all of what i guess was subs you got a voucher to K-Mart for ten dollars. Now, as out of my mind as I was I knew giving a heroin addict a voucher to K-Mart was not a good thing. What do you think they all did with them? Bought a CD, and went right to the dude who buys old records and CD's, and he'd give ya $7.00.
Well, all ya needed was another three bucks and ya had a bag of dope.
 
Considering I never did any drug until I was 35. I had to pick heroin of course. I was out of the loop, and naive on the street. A lifer told me once to NEVER go on the needle because it's a whole new love. My life was already broken to pieces, and I just about literally killed my family. So, I took her advice. Nice of the old timer I think. Heroin addicts in my experience are actually usually kind people with deep feelings.
 
I was also advised to skip the methadone. Hitting a clinic every single day to me seemed to defeat the very purpose I was trying to remedy. NOW I do know people that methadone saved their lives. I also have been hearing of so many OD's on methadone. I'd goten it on the street at times when I couldn't cop, and I LOVED it. Loved it more than heroin. Not good.
 
It of course comes in pill form and actually I have been hearing of people being prescribed it for pain. I can tell you if you think dope is hard to beat the methadone is far worse. It messes with your bones big time.
 
So for anyone kicking heroin my personal advice is skip the methadone. Poor, poor Rosemarie. I again am heartbroken for you, and you are valiant in trying to learn more about this nasty stuff we put in our bodies. There's different brands of it. Some call them biscuits. The Adolphies many people like. The German's invented methadone as morphine was harder to get during the war. Thus the name Adoplphi's after Hitler. I have heard that is bull, but you never know.
 
I have a neighbor who is down to........are you ready for this?
150 mg's. Man, that'd throw a lifer for a loop. Still she is heroin free, but rain, snow, blizard she has to get to her clinic.
 
Apparently the clinic is a real scene. People who get it in liquid form go in, and take it. They hold it in their mouth, and then get paid off by some poor soul jonsing by spitting it in a cup for them. It's called a "spit cup".
 
So, I think for me anyway I did the right thing. Others it was right for them. Again, I am sorry Rose as I can't fathom losing your daughter that way. That is heartwrenching.
 
No bliss in any of this. None. Just my opinion. It all just makes me sick.

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From: MSN Nicknamerosemaries_momSent: 11/10/2006 1:25 PM
Hey Gettinthere,
Thankful that you gave bbg some practical advice from someone who has been there and I am also more informed now. I don't know. I hear a lot of people do great on maintenance w/ methadone and couldn't have broken the cycle of H w/o it. I just hope BBG gets whatever she needs to live a clean healthy happy life before being totally sucked into the vortex of addiction and the lifestyle that goes w/ it. She has a lot going for her, with obvious intelligence and a kind heart. She must also have a good bit of tenacity to have managed to stay in school. Hang in there and do what you need to do, BBG.

Love,

Rosemarie's Mom

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