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From: MSN NicknameBLACKIEMACKIE  (Original Message)Sent: 10/22/2006 6:23 PM
hi all,i'm chillin this weekend just taking my done ta keep the wd's at bay 22 yr run you know how it goes. i'm sick and tired of being sick and tired.anyways reading alot of the posts and it's all good .it brings to mind though when peeps mention the crave the crave well lest we ferget hows about the horror the horror.no need to reply cause i've heard it all and i've said it all again and again so how hard is it when we finally hit bottom i mean how hard does it have to be??apparently plenty so talk me my friends hit me back peace steve da/dawgg


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From: MSN Nickname©ShaSent: 10/23/2006 8:52 AM
I hear ya...who knew reaching bottom could be a full time job.
Sometimes I think the longer we stay on this stuff the more immune we become to feeling life..to fighting back..to wanting change for changes sake. I get so bloody tired...maintaining is about all I can do these days without becoming completely exhausted. I keep waiting for my 'second wind'..maybe age is holding me hostage.
 
Hang in Dawgg...hang in.
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameFORGEDCHAINSent: 10/23/2006 9:15 AM
Good Morning,,,
 
Youre right Sha,,,I always referred to my active using as an occupation as the amount of time consumed in "staying using" was staggering...I wonder if anyone has ever done a time study on hours spent on one trying to stay well or high,,,would be an interesting endeavor I think...Recovery is a full time occupation also,,,I have to work at it 24/7 yet it has many moments of bliss...Keep the Faith,,,,,,,FC

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From: MSN NicknamebehindlisSent: 10/24/2006 1:08 AM
You mean addiction isn't a full time job? buggar - better take it of the resume then!!! I think thats why I fear relapse so much, I don't know that I'd have the energy or strength to survive it.
I used to say - 'it's not the heroin thats the problem, it's not having the heroin that's the problem'!
If only the meth clinics became H clinics we could all go on our merry way!!!

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From: MSN NicknameBLACKIEMACKIESent: 10/28/2006 2:43 AM
yeah behindlis i heard that and it's crazy ideas like the one you just
mentioned that sometimes just happen to come out fer a test trial run in
various other parts of the world.oh yeah you say weel then fill us in and
tell us what you know !! well from what i've heard england has had
prescription heroin that you get from your local chemist .i heard that they
can soak your ciggerettes with a type of liquid heroin, don't be letting any
of those ciggs get bummed by anyone you know or don't know fer sure!!and now
in b.c. is it or somewhere in canada they got heroin clinics or so i've read
and been told ready ta move peeps charter a bus anyone??i'm sure some of
you know more then what i'm ramblin about so add to this thread cause most
of the time i can use all the help i can get.doi!!
peace steve

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From: IndigoSent: 10/28/2006 8:50 PM
We used to have a HoH member from Switzerland who was on a very successful Heroin Clinic----He had been on Methadone Clinics for some time & always still missed the heroin surge (the first 2 or 3 hours),which is missing with Methadone Maintenence..As a result he never did well on methadone no matter what his dose was.. When the Heroin Clinic opened he immediately got on & his life did a very successful turn around--He no longer missed days at work, he wasn't depressed all the time, his life became stable & sain...
- Unfortunately, we can't all go to Switzerland-- lol

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From: MSN NicknameBLACKIEMACKIESent: 11/5/2006 8:01 PM
a plane ticket runs about$$$$$$ how much? hmmmmmm lets see piggy bank and under car's floor mat's
where theres a will theres a way?
hah when will some of us learn?
peace steve

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From: GettinthereSent: 11/9/2006 3:12 AM
Hahahaha, Steve. Right? Going through jacket pockets. Down the couch. Turning the joint upside down, and running to the coin machine to turn that change into dollars. Funny it never came out what we thought it was.
 
I remember doing that a million times, but not for a ticket to Switzerland. Just for a get well bag. That sinking feeling when the machine spit out that receipt, and that scream in my head "Damn it I swore this had to be at least twenty bucks in change".   LOL  Then also swearing the people in the market didn't see you the last twenty times you did the same thing.
 
I don't miss that and keeping that green is a great thing. After two years and six months clean I don't recall the bliss. I do however revert back when something goes wrong, and I know the dope will make it go away, but then I wise up, and think "Now how long is that going to last?" We all know the answer to that.
 
Straight up full time job. I HAD to have a morning bag. I mean ready. That set me a going for the rest of the day. A day of tough work just to maintain. The stunts we pull, and the ingenius things we do to get that money for dope I swear if we were that ambitious in life we'd be super-de-duper CEO's of huge companies.
 
Yep. It's a job. A job we worked hard for, and then blew it in one cop. All gone. It was never enough either. Remember that? You'd get $50.00 bucks, and you wanted $70.00. Never, ever enough. That I do not miss.
 
Oh, and the very worse was you'd get the money, and the man was on vacation or shopping for a new Caddy Escalade on our money. Nuttin right about that. So, we'd wait while he spent all our loot. Pacing, and calling, and calling, and pacing.
 
It's a sorry life that's for sure. I wish I could take all these kids daring to try such a thing, and show them like the Ghost Of Christmas Past how they'll end up. I feel especially bad for the kids. They think they are invincable. Can't tell them nothing.
 
Bottome line is this is no way to live. Just don't do it.

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From: MSN Nicknamerosemaries_momSent: 11/10/2006 1:56 PM
Gettinthere,
Have you ever considered doing your own sort of crusade in the areas where the buyers and sellers usually hang? You COULD be like the ghost of Christmas Past. God, I wish I could help save one kid from this hell. I wish I could've saved MY kid from this hell.

I also agree w/ your comment about what could be if all the energy now put into maintaining the habit could be put into legitimate business pursuits. Yes, most of you could be anything you chose to be. So much talent, just using it for the wrong pursuit, using it for the destruction of self and loved ones, whether that was the intent or not.

Great post, Gettinthere. I wish all the best of everything life has to offer.

Love,
Rosemarie's Mom

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