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From: MSN NicknameChuvstvui  (Original Message)Sent: 10/30/2006 3:35 AM
Greetings HoH'ers
I have a question for you guys. I am rather inexperienced. Most of the time I have gotten sick from H, I didn't take more to stop the sickness, I just stopped using for a while. Today I was the sickest I have ever been, and I usually use about .13 to .15 of a gram if it is of average quality of what I am used to. Today, when sick, I took .10 because I wanted to test the strength. But I felt pretty normal, and definitely not high. So I took .05 more and after half a minute or so, another .05, and slightly felt something. Then I took another .05 and finally felt a little high. So the total I took in about 5 minutes was .25 of a gram.
Forgive me if this is all a little too detailed, but I analyze everything. So here is where my question comes in. What is it about being "sick" that allows your body to handle more H? If I had not been sick, and I took .25g, I am sure I would have OD'd on some level, or I mean been really f'ed up. So how is the body then, tolerating this amount, just because I am going through withdrawals?

Thanks,
Chuvstvui


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From: IndigoSent: 10/31/2006 10:09 PM
Its called "Tolerence" -- When I person isn't addicted then the hit will get you high--When you're junk sick then the hit has to 1st get you well (not high), then if you do more you will get high--- But junk is a strange drug & one's tolerence can grow even if they haven't used for awhile--Its hard to predict exactly how the junk will effect you--there are many factors--How big your habit is--How strong the dope is--How healthy your body is--When you last used--etc etc---Thats what makes it so dangerous & unpredictable-- I've always had a rule of thumb of testing a small amount 1st to gage its strength, especially if its a new batch of dope or a new dealer----  Good Luck & be VERY careful

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From: MSN NicknameChuvstvuiSent: 11/2/2006 10:27 PM
Thanks for the reply Indigo :)
I know about tolerance, etc, but I was really shocked when it jumped up on me like that, but I figured out what it was, the junk was crap. It was just a weak batch. The dealer apologized and hooked me up with some more, and asked me to try it before I buy it, so I can make sure it is good.

BTW - he asked why don't I buy raw instead of fucking around with the scramble. I told him I thought about it, but years ago I was told that you couldn't shoot raw, that it had to be scramble, or something like that, maybe that it wasn't as good to shoot raw. But he said no that is a lie, but this guy has never used. So I bought a 20$ bag. But I haven't touched it yet because I don't know how much to do. My cousin said like 1/8th of what I normally do of scramble. Any suggestions? I mean I know I need to be really careful, but I have no clue how little to use to start. I wanna be safe but not waste it.

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From: MSN NicknameChuvstvuiSent: 11/3/2006 11:37 PM
Well in lue of advice, and using common sense and what my cousin said, I tried the raw. I don't even know how much to say I used. I have no idea of the weights. I felt it a little but after about 10 min it was pretty much gone, so I waited about an hour or so and did some more, this time a little more. SO I have a decent idea of how much to do. If no one answered because they didn't want to feel responsible for anything that could happen, I understand. I was just looking for a guideline as I had never shot raw.

l8ter g8tors

BTW - its friday, and I am bored... tired of school work, tired of doing nothing, tired of sticking myself, and of not being able to find veins. But I am stopping after what I have is gone. I have about maybe 4 or 5 hits left...

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From: MSN NicknameKaren-_Sent: 11/4/2006 3:07 AM
That is Great Chuv....hope you do...Good Luck...

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From: MSN NicknameSuziblues2Sent: 11/4/2006 4:15 PM
Hi C.,
It's just so difficult to 'recommend' how much heroin is safe to shoot.  Heroin has so much man made crap in it, so it's all differant.  Even raw probably isn't pure.  Matter of fact I know it isn't pure heroin, if it was you'd only need a tiny amount, as big as a pin head.  In the olden days we used to measure it by using McDonald coffee spoons, which McDonalds doesn't even have anymore!  They were little tiny plastic spoons that they'd give ya to stir your coffee.  Anyway, we'd do that amount and be high for 2 days. 
 
Twenty Five years later and it's all so differant!  
 
It's good to find a dealer and stick with him.  I've been copping off the same old guy for a long, long time.  I always know whats up with the drug/mix, I know what to expect.  (I'm on methadone now, but husband is still using)  (Once in a while I'll do a couple packs)
 
It sounds like you're being very smart and careful about it all, and thats good. Better safe than sorry.  Also, if your uncertain about the strengh of the heroin make sure you're with somebody when you do it.  Like you said, all common sense stuff.
 
Be safe,
sue
 

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From: MSN NicknameChuvstvuiSent: 11/4/2006 9:06 PM
Thanks Suzi :)

Yeh know it is all so random and so many variables. I kind of found the right amount. Last night I didn't do too much but found that my breathing became really shallow, more so than usual, so like a little girl who had a nightmare I went to my cousin and told him and slept on the floor next to him asking him to keep an eye on me. My uncle opened the door in the morning and asked why I slept in there. My cousin told him the boogeyman was after me, heh heh.

Also, my cousin makes fun of me a little because I research everything on the internet. I told him I made a boo boo and shot up in my artery on my wrist, and he was like did you look up all the side effects or possible outcomes of that online, and I was like you know I did. I even had my brother looking stuff up :)

And I am sure this "raw" is stepped on. What I have found to be a decent amount is more that I thought I would need for raw. I remember raw being stronger even 5 years ago when I first came across it.

I thought raw was brown, but I read some info that it is white. Are there different kinds of raw? And what is closer to the truth?

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From: MSN NicknameSuziblues2Sent: 11/4/2006 9:30 PM
Hi C.,
I have no idea what color raw is supose to be! 
 
Ya know what, I did the same thing, I shot up in that wrist artery!  I thought it was a vien, was getting good hits in it and everything was fine until all of a sudden OUCH!  Damn, it felt like my arm caught on fire.  Stupid me.  You'd think I'd know better.
 
Any place that you can feel a heart beat.......DONT shoot up there.
 
You take care,
sue

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From: MSN NicknameChuvstvuiSent: 11/6/2006 3:21 AM
Yeh, in fact my artery is still hurting. Does anyone else feel the h going thru the vein, I mean burning. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. I don't think it has happened with raw, so it must be the cut.

Oh, was gonna stop after last batch, but made an excuse (that my last dose was too small and i hate that) so I went today and got a gram of raw...Couldn't really afford it, but I got it none-the-less.

~Chuv (Feel it!)

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From: MSN NicknameSuziblues2Sent: 11/6/2006 4:13 PM
Yes, I used to feel the dope going through my vien.  If your vien is all wrecked up on the outside, imagine what it looks like on the inside!   The dope is probably making it sting because the vien is sore.
 
Take care C,
sue

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