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 Message 1 of 13 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamejustygreed1  (Original Message)Sent: 4/9/2006 5:59 PM
"THERE IS NOTHING CLOSE TO THE TRUTH IT IS ALL IN YOUR MIND"....................
 
WILLIAM BURRUOUGHS
 
ARE WE ALL ON THE QUEST FOR OUR OWN TRUTH OR IS THERE ONE GREAT TRUTH REPOSITORY OUT THERE?  DOES ANYONE HAVE DIRECTIONS?


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From: vinnySent: 4/9/2006 6:38 PM
We are all on our own quest for truth, from our own perspectives.  There seems to be no great "absolute" truth repository anywhere, let alone any directions to it.  We live our lives, day by day, and hope for the best, but must be prepared for the worst.  We can do no more than that, and to think otherwise is utter foolishness.
 
  Vinny
 

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From: MSN Nicknamecuriosity77Sent: 6/9/2006 8:29 PM
Hi Justy,

I love Burroughs, and here's my take on that quote.

Truth is a matter of perspective, and know one ever knows what anyone else really thinks or feels. That doesn't mean their is no truth, it just means that everything is open to interpretation, and by the time our brains process it, it's somehow clouded and different from whatever it was orignally. So maybe just by thinking about something, we change it, and then it's not the same truth it was before. It's kind of like a crime scene, where is you ask 2 witnesses what happened, both will tell the "truth," but you get 2 different stories - maybe it's perception, maybe it's memory, but somehow they distort it, and you never really know what went on. It's the same for everything we think we know.
If you are talking about god, maybe it's too big for any human to understand the truth, so anyone who thinks they know is a least a little bit wrong.
I don't know if that what William S meant, but it's a cool quote.

-Curiosity

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From: MSN NicknameKaren-_Sent: 11/6/2006 6:16 PM
I totally agree with you curiosity. Your perception is only as big as your experiences. And each person's perception is different because they have different experiences. Each has their own path to walk and that path is that individules own truth. So what is true for one person isn't necessarily true for the next.
 
Somewhere out there is the Ultimate Truth but like you said in human form we cannot comprehend it.
 
Great question and quote...thanks Justy...

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From: MSN NicknameKaren-_Sent: 11/6/2006 6:18 PM
PS...I just wanted to add...if you have an open mind a great little book to get is "The Messiah's Handbook" by Richard Bach. To me all of Richard's writings are excellent!

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From: MSN NicknamePremNarayanaSent: 12/10/2007 12:41 AM
As far as ultimate truth goes, the finite (us) cannot know the infinite unless it is the desire of the infinite for the finite to know her/him/it.
if you want to know the infinite you must put yourself in a position to attract the infinite.. but if the infinite has everything how can any show of ability attract? attract the infinite by displaying inability, attract the compassion of the infinite.

hah sorry, i can't let an oportunity for speaking about theistic philosophy, or philosophy in general, slip by.

~narayana

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From: IndigoSent: 12/10/2007 8:41 PM
Cogito  Ergo  Sum -- Rene Descartes -- I think therefor I am--
That is the only fact that can be proven, the rest could all be your imagination..
Some others say that Mathematics is the only Absolute Truth.

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From: MSN NicknameSuziblues2Sent: 12/10/2007 8:56 PM
Yep, I was gonna say Mathamatic's too, Indigo.  Thats what my son used to say, anyway.  He was a mathamatical genius..he was so amazing. 
 
He committed suicide when he was at Michigan State Univ. when he was only 19.   We used to have the:  'if a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it does it still make a noise'  conversations all the time.
 
GOD I MISS HIM!
 
 I wish I could have one more day with that kid.  One more hour.  ONE MORE MINUTE!
 
luv,
sue

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From: MSN NicknameLovingmom2433Sent: 12/14/2007 3:15 PM
Sue,  i think this time of the year we all miss our loved ones so much more.
I was wondering something???
When you think of your son do you always think of him as a kid of 19??
Im having a real tough time with that.
WHen i think of GIno he always looks the same exact way.
I always imagine him in a blue striped shirt that he always wore, worn out jeans and he has suede skater shoes on.
Even though he left this earth with a suit on ( NOT MY IDEA) I always picture him this way..
DAMN< Holidays have a way of fucking with our heads dont they???
Love Karen

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From: MSN NicknameSuziblues2Sent: 12/14/2007 5:02 PM
Hi Karen,
I can SO relate to what you're saying here.  I will always picture Jesse in his blue jeans and t shirt, or this hood thing he used to wear.  He will always be young in my mind.
 
Do you know I still have his shoes that he died in?  I cant seem to throw them away...it's been over 10 years!  I also have his hood thing that he used to wear all the time and his hat.  I made this big giant blanket with a lot of his clothes, and I'm really glad I did that.  When I see this blanket I see Jesse.
 
Karen, I also buried Jess in a suit too.  Why do we do that?  I wanted to bury him in his regualr clothes but thought it'd be tacky or whatever.  But ya know, it doesn't matter Karen.  Our son's are fine, waiting for us, watching over us.  They are wearing whatever the heck they want now.  Maybe even a pair of wings! 
 
luv ya,
sue

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From: MSN NicknameLovingmom2433Sent: 12/16/2007 3:32 PM
Suzi, its responses like the one you just gave me that reminds me why i love you so much,  Your a gift, thankyou for that,  Love Karen

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From: MSN NicknamejustgreedSent: 10/23/2008 6:29 PM
Wow, before I got back to the real world I would lay in my bunk and think about this very quote! Truth is I had a case set for trial about the time this was posted, I remember reading the posts here and not contributing much because I was in such a dark place (blaming everyone but me for my circumstances) and was satisfied with being bitter. I don't remember if I posted this or not but the truth has changed for me. I did'nt know what I had till I lost it for the FIFTH time, I know what I have now, I am in the processs of bettering it. The truth is I've been at this very spot in my life before I only hope I can stick to the plan this time. I'm on suboxone played the doctor for 32mg a day,just enough for Amber and I, back in school,enjoying the kids,but despite my good intentions I plan a relapse at least twice a wek. I wake up don't take my meds, make the call when my eyes start to water,anxiously await the call skip out the back door of the school,get in Bebo's van hand over my hard earned pennies and make all the pain go away. I must be a fool because this dance always ends the same way,my beautiful mistress always leaves me cold and alone.

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From: MSN NicknamejustgreedSent: 10/24/2008 3:25 PM
Just went back and reread this through my lazy eyes, I am sorry about the typ'os I just got a laptop and am trying to get used to it> thanks for your understanding

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