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From: MSN NicknameEX  (Original Message)Sent: 1/31/2002 2:41 PM
Hi Guys,  I  first want to apologise for being such a bummer sometimes.I  realize i have been talking about my mate that i lost in 97' and tomorrow being his birthday....well. OK OK that said this is what happened yesterday....I have repainted some of the rooms in my crib and redecorated. My kids are at school all day and I was here alone............I decided to video my new repairs  and started outside my front door...with video running I went through the place and filmed the rooms  talking bull shit commentary as i went.No one was here but me.When i put the video in the vcr to look at it  as i came through the door ...ON THE TAPE is a voice that says"HI  There" I swear  it is there..... i have had a couple friends look at the video and didn't tell them about the voice....but when it came to that part they started kidding me and asking who was in the house with me. I am totally bewildered this morning...HELP....am I losing my mind...LOVE    Exheroin Lover


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From: flapjackSent: 8/6/2002 4:10 PM
Mama Ex! It's been awhile since I talked with you. Hope everything is alright with you.I certainly believe in life after death as we are all immortal anyway, although in this day and age there are none too many who give it a second thought. Apparently their minds are shut. Life energy/soul needs a body to express itself, to attempt to serve the Great All in whatever worlds it is presently existing. Living things, manifestations of the Great All, is how the universe perceives itself and keeps itself in harmony. Otherwise, a soul cannot add to the glory, or horror, in the worlds. As for us, human souls, we are the product of billions upon billions of years of slow hard work. Some few advance rapidly in this life in spiritual evolution, those great women and men who affect change for good here on our little planet amid the innumerable stars. And that goes for the smaller as well as the greater. From a T-phage to a star to a galaxy. I've lost one good friend to an overdose of heroin, and another more loose aquantance to drugs and guns (brandishing hand guns while high and accidentally shot through the neck). I'm not sure if they're still hangin' around but when or if I ever catch up to them I'll say "Why did you leave me behind? I missed you. I loved you." Oh well, they are gone, hopefully doing better this time around however their souls have arrayed themselves in bodies here or not. Later on my fellow psychonauts!  with love, flapjack

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From: MSN NicknameEXSent: 8/6/2002 8:46 PM
Hey FlapBabe, Gosh, it was really nice to hear from you. I am sure the work thing will pick up soon...and when is it u and yours are moving to Philly?? I also just moved..to North carolina......I like it here ok...it's just like everyone acts like june cleaver...lol....they also r those upwardly mobile types...while me.....I am just an aging hippie looking for a place to pass on to my kids with some trees to look at. I feel soo old these days....don't know what it is....it's like I have seen it all and don't get excited about a guy in a dress or folks that like piercing.......i must b jaded or somethin...I also have no energy. Damm...i used to run 24/7...is anybody else in this slump?? Maybe its just the move....or the fact that it so Shittin Guiet here.........I am tryin to adjust .Just feel real lonely and depressed.......like i left something back home.....guess i did.......somebody tell me what it was...........Ex

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From: MSN NicknamedezriblaqSent: 8/6/2002 9:39 PM
My dear, kind, generous, and loving ex...
 You've made a big change in your life, and your life style.And as for being jaded, well if thats what you are let me join the club..... and I expect there's a lot more of us out there. Also you were probably in a state of chaos getting ready for and then actually moving, then there's the unpacking and settling in, and helping the kids settle in. What have done to help yourself settle in? Try setting up a room for you and surround yourself with familiar things. Remember it takes time for a place to feel like home, whether its a move around the block or to another state.
And try to make friends, thats the hardest part, believe me I know. And don't always judge a book by its cover. When people look at me they see some middle aged pudgy old broad whocan hardly walk some days. They do not see me or who I am. It usually takes time but who knows what's really going on in june cleaver's head. And in the meantime you've always got us, and I'll always be here so feel free to e-mail me anytime. [email protected]. I know what its like to feel alone. How about getting a pet for you and the kids. A dog can be great company, especially when the kids are out or in school. Just a thought. Keep in touch. Please.
 
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From: IndigoSent: 8/7/2002 6:04 AM
Hi Ex  -- Yes, I too am a member in good standing of the Society of Jaded North Americans --lol...NOTHING can shock me anymore ( other then the fact that athletes & Hollywood actors are now leaders of our Planet--oy vey!) But seriously though, I give you alot of credit for being brave enough to make such big changes in your life--I thinks its great! If we don't take some risks in this world then we'll probably have a very boring & unfulfilling existence..Change is the most difficult thing for humans to deal with--but its one of the only ways we can grow--Nothing though, is carved in stone--We can can always make changes to our changes if we're not pleased with the results ( I just confused myself-lol--it doesn't take much to confuse me these days--lol--OK , I'm finished amusing myself--sorry)...Moving one's home base is a huge & traumatic change (especially if one moves to the Valley of the June Cleavers--just kidding--Damn it--I can't get serious tonight--)  Sorry Ex, I shouldn't smoke pot before I go on HoH yet I keep making that same mistake over & over again (sound familiar to anyone??) Well, I'm gonna get out of here before I really put my foot in my mouth--or is it too late for that......Hang in there Ex & please don't take me seriously--Sorry to hear about your depression--I too was in a prolonged slump until I began my this antidepressant Celexa (my 1st experience ever with antidepressants & boy am I impressed)..The quality of my life has improved 100%..If you ever want to drop me a line please do NOT hesitate--I mean that....your friend Isacc/Indigo

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From: MSN NicknameiwannabefreeeSent: 8/8/2002 4:34 AM
dearest ExH;
 
is it a coincidence that the topic of your feeling displaced with this move and seeming to be undergoing a grieving process comes up on a thread that initially addressed unresolved grief for your partner/life-love?  i don't think so, sweetie...my son's daddy died 8-10-99, the anniversary  of which is right around the corner, and I myself find the process to be similar to the proverbial  unpeeling of the layers of an onion.  Every 'first',  each new experience solo,  prompts the issue to surface again but at a slightly different level......however often surprisingly the same in intensity.  I often feel surprised at the sense of being 'sucker-punched".... For the most part, I have grown accustomed to the dull ache that can recede to the background but always lingers...but sometimes, almost out of nowhere, it is as acute and fresh as if it were recent...and we had lost Chris for all practical purposes some years before he died (unintentional overdose..more than a bit greedy) after he underwent an entire personality change and had begun a serious quest to kill us (literally, my gentle giant had become a predator)....his death was in many ways a relief..he is free at last.  So are we....I have grown to view this enormous personality change to be attributed to organic impairment of the disease on his brain itself...at the time I solely blamed the drugs...I have wandered from my point, which is that since my loss carried a lot of ambivalence (with relief co-mingled with grief) it would seem natural that the loss of one with whom one was still in a viable love union would be even more traumatic and lingering in the pain and sorrow....and as you shared initially in this thread, you had perceived some possible/probable ongoing link with him at the home you were in...there may be some sense of this having dissipated since that time with your move...
 
on an entirely different note, you are describing the same feelings I have heard expressed by those who have literally emigrated from a foreign land...surely to move from the heart of the city to a country setting is a culture shock and perhaps some of your identity or sense of self is linked with the familiar environment in which you have been for so long....you may need to reaffirm to your own self who you are and what you are about and where you are heading, sorta like taking an inventory or devising a mission statement!  Whatever it takes to get grounded...others' suggestions  here along those lines are great...give yourself time and space and mindfully establish some ties to the familiar in your nesting...
 
 
girlfriend you ARE a survivor, and you will certainly discover many way cool things about yourself through this whole process of moving and grieving and nesting and rooting....LOL it IS a sucky system, this one of growth through pain, butit seems to be the one we are given!!
 
Keep us updated on how you are adjusting and the ways you begin to make sense of all this to yourself...I for one would clearly benefit from you sharing your process in this phase of your journey!!!
 
Remember that you are valued here....peace, freeespiritt

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From: MSN NicknameEXSent: 8/10/2002 12:20 AM
Hey Guys, Dang..I just looked in  and found all these wonderful responces to my post..U all r too great!!! Indigo..U are funny as hell..do not stop postin when u smoke a little herb.. U make me smile. ....and Free...U are dead on. I didn't even realize that it was the same thread till u mentioned it.I am wondering though if you are goin to start chargin me for your advice.cause U seem to know me inside out.I am doing better in my country setting..at least today i am...LOL....My oldest son is considering bringing his family here too..so cross your fingers for me...he is my heart. I am going in for the eye surgery that brought me to this neck of the woods to start with. Duke university .u guys know it?? I go pretest on monday and then Thursday is the day they gotta pop my eye out and fix it...so wish me well guys.either it will b fixed or permanently gone......figured it has been almost a year  and it ain't gonna get fixed on it's own...so i am goin the whole shabang.Flapjack...I waver on the christian ideal...and the reincarnation theory..........I  know there is something else after this..and am truly of the idea that we are here to learn..seems we have to repeat that until we get it right too..that's just from observation all these years. I also like the idea that science is agreeing that the world was made in one big BANG...but then that leads me to the thought that if God made this place in 7 days...dang..he can just can it and start over if he doesn't like the way things are goin. well...that sounds confused as hell huh...lol...well, guess it's me rambling now....LOVE    U ALL     Ex

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From: MSN NicknameEXSent: 8/13/2002 2:34 PM
Dear Wild,     YEE HAW.....I'll get my best southern overalls ready and will bring my gun rack...shotgun included....LOL ........LOL....i'm ready for a wingding!!!  Love Ex    can u put a gun rack in a corvette....LOL    

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From: IndigoSent: 8/14/2002 12:29 AM
ExH --   MY prayers will be with you for your upencoming little visit to the garage for humans-- I'm sure you'll be in the hands of a top mechanic, & we'll be sending you a nonstop wave of HoH healing vibes---You're gonna do just great ExH--Please keep us posted..........All the Best--Indigo

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From: MSN NicknameEXSent: 8/14/2002 6:27 AM
Thank You Indigo for your kind words.Yep, i go in thursday. I went for pretest and i was thinking maybe a day sugery and out again ...but i have found out my doc has reserved a room for two days.......and the list of things that can go wrong is like never fucking ending...so, I will just put my eyes in the hands of the professionals and hope they didn't get too drunk on the day they studied eyes...LOL LOL......It will be ok....and if it isn't...well....that will b ok too...shit..I still have one good one that works.     I have been through too much stuff in my life and jeopardized it all a million times over...losin one eye......I can live with that!!!!    KISSES TO U indigo and all my other fellow dope fiends. Ex

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From: MSN NicknameEXSent: 9/14/2002 7:32 AM
Ok all....... it's getting wierd again at my new place.I am posting on this thread because it has somehow become important....i cannot really explain why...I just feel it.   I am at my little boy's class program last night around 7:00 in the evening.and I am sitting in the audience listening to my cutie sing along with the rest of his 4 th grade class....and in the middle of the performance my cell phone rings..i forgot to shut it off and I usually do when i am in a public place like this. So, anyway the caller ID comes up and the call is from my house.....now that is wierd because my daughter is beside me and my son is on stage there...and NO ONE is home at my house...I have a record of this in my call log. I figure my oldest son is at my house and is using my phone to track me down.....BUT...NO.....I call him later and his wife says he has been home all night and not even in the same city as me......... So,      as I was sitting there thinking how much Lee would have enjoyed seeing how beautiful our son and daughter are.....I get this call.....wierd huh.....Ex   Oh, No One there when I picked it up....just silence.......

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From: sugargalSent: 3/3/2003 7:52 PM
I totally believe in life after death.  My sister was killed in a car accident back in 1991.  A few years after that during Christmas, I was walking out next to the Christmas Tree on Christmas Eve like my sister and I always used to do.  We had put an ornament on the tree in her honor, it was shaped and decorated like a little wreath and it had a little pic of her in the middle. As I passed the tree that night I closed my eyes and spoke to her and then all of a sudden the ornament fell off the tree and landed at my feet.  I knew she was there, all around me, looking after me, telling me it is all going to be okay.  Do I believe in life after death, yes I do!!

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