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IS IT SO BAD TO USE OTHER DRUGS......SHROOMS, POT, LSD,ECSTACY, ETC........IN THE DRUG SPECTRUM THEY ARE FAIRLY HARMLESS AND NO ONE I KNOW IS ADDICTED TO THEM.....DRUGS ARE FUN NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS.....AS LONG AS I DON'T DO OPIATES I THINK I'M GONNA BE OKAY |
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| | From: Indigo | Sent: 10/19/2002 10:34 PM |
Personally, I agree totally with what you're saying Galvatron, BUT,--if one already knows that they are prone to drug addiction(whether opiates or booze or valium), then they must be rigorously honest with themselves as far as their "limitations" go...For example, I couldn't safely do heroin if I wasn't on methadone---some people can do most drugs but can never drink alcohol---Now I'm quite familiar with AA/NA's stance that any drug will lead you back to your "drug of choice"--I DON'T believe that this is true for everyone, especially addicts that have studied the dynamics of Addiction & have also taken the journey of honest self awareness...But thats just my opinion or as AA would say "my denial" is rationalizing...lol.... |
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are you sure you are right about that , All drugs are all about being comsumed with self,as long as you are comsumed with self you will never know true peace and joy. drugs of all kind legal or illegal screw your brain chemistry up . I spent 40 yrs doing every drug known to man . 13yrs on methadone, just to find out that I could trigger these feel good brain chemicals w/o drugs for free . with no consequences . what a concept . all I had to do this was to get honest with Myself and outhers . I found by getting out of my self and helping and loving others , I started to feel good about myself . I found I had A pourpose in this life besides staying screwed up all the time . success is being able to live in My head and be happy most of the time . Life is still life , but thats o.k. All this is just my opinion , but its works for me . I hope you all find some kind of joy in this life . J>T>N> |
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FM,
that is great and what you have stated is so true, it is
amazing how we have to go through mazes and jump through hoops for many
years and the key to life was sitting within us the whole time all we
had to do was stop and take inventory and we would of saw it.
God Bless
Claude
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are you sure you are right about that , All drugs
are all about being comsumed with self,as long as you are comsumed
with self you will never know true peace and
joy. drugs of all kind legal or illegal screw
your brain chemistry up . I spent 40 yrs
doing every drug known to man . 13yrs on
methadone, just to find out that I
could trigger these feel good brain chemicals
w/o drugs for free . with no
consequences . what a concept . all I had to do
this was to get honest with
Myself and outhers . I found by getting out of
my self and helping and loving
others , I started to feel good about myself .
I found I had A pourpose in this
life besides staying screwed up all the time .
success is being able to live in My
head and be happy most of the time . Life is
still life , but thats o.k.
All this is just my opinion , but its works
for me .
I hope you all find some kind
of joy in this life . J>T>N>
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| All things in moderation and there are some of us who can't do any drugs in moderation, even the "safe" ones. Others of us can do some things in moderation and not others. I, for example, can smoke pot and get a nice buzz every once in awhile on a weekend or evening and don't miss it at all when I don't smoke it (the vast majority of the time). However, I have a very hard time drinking in moderation. When it reaches a point with any substance that you never feel good when you're straight then it's a problem even if there's a minimal physical addiction. |
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Frenchmen, When i read your post it put a smile on
my face.
Im so glad you figured it out and realized we are
responsible for our own happiness.
NO ONE, or NO THING can bring us true happiness, it
comes from inside.........
You are one of the lucky ones, Im so thrilled for
you, Love Karen |
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| | | From: Indigo | Sent: 1/21/2006 9:04 PM |
Mankind knows so little when it comes to the dynamics of "Brain Chemistry"..We're more or less in the Dark Ages as far as the brain goes.. Frenchman-- Intellectually, I probably agree with your perspective--but pragmatically I'm just not there yet,, The best I can do so far is with Harm Reduction & I'm so grateful to have found this place--Perhaps one day I'll be able to safely get off of the Methadone, but for now I don't even think about it-- I'm 55 years old (started Heroin at age 15)& I'm still scared shitless of coming off of the methadone--My life is good these days--I got married last June to my soul-mate--I have a good relationship with my 2 kids (they're not quite kids anymore, 23 & 21)--& Life is good days & not so good days & thats a HUGE improvement for me--"Moderation"is a word that I'm coming to understand & internalize-- But without Methadone I don't think "moderation" would be possible for me-- Though Addiction & Recovery manifest themselves similarly in everyone, they are different for everyone--There is no "One size fits All" solution for Recovery--As the Recovery people say, "Though we all seek the same ultimate destination (Peace of Mind), there are many roads that can lead you there." The Journey continues........... |
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The only thing you need to worry about is what is right for you. There are findings that will support both sides of the arguement as too these substances being addictive (or not) or harmful. Like everything thing in our destructive little world, it's all about how you use them. If your just chasing a high anything will work, but if you want to make it permanent then every drug, regardless of it's title, is an opiate. Found that out the hard way! |
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| | From:  Karen-_ | Sent: 11/6/2006 6:09 PM |
What a great thread! I agree with all that is said here because I have been through all of these phases. And I continue to keep going through phases only they get better the more I work on my self. I guess I am where you are at Frenchman. Drugs are a symptom of something that lies deeper within. Drugs can also be fun but there comes a time when they are not fun anymore and then you begin your journey into hell. One thing with addicts is they do know the real meaning of Hell. To go through it and come back out is truly a gift. And yes, there are so much better highs in this life time than using drugs. If someone told me that while I was still using I would have to them to fuck off. There are no right or wrong answers in my belief. Only experiences and lessons, everyone has their own path to walk and there own truth to speak and I believe we are all perfectly where we are supposed to be on our path no matter where you are. Love and Joy K |
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