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Day 2 of my quit smoking campaign. I need all the help I can get so I'm wearing a patch. This morning I was reading through the accompaying booket and saw the following:
Question: Is NicoDerm CQ just substituting one form of nicotine for another?
Answer: NicoDerm CQ does contain nicotine. The purpose of NicoDerm CQ is to provide you with enough nicotine to reduce the physical withdrawl symptoms so you can deal with the mental aspects of quitting.
Guess, what? Friends, co-workers and doctors couldn't care less about my using a pactch to get me off the cigs. I haven't looked into any quit smoking groups but somehow I doubt they'd condem me either. It's a nice anology... too bad those who use meth to help them deal with their addiction don't get the social support nicotine addicts are offered.
(Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying quitting cigs compares to quitting H. Just commenting on the stigma of methadone.) |
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Wild, I hope the patch works for you.
I have tried to quit smoking twice. The first time I
quit cold turkey, and quit for 7 years, and the second time I used the
patch.
I continued to use the patch alot longer then they say to,
and when I took the patch off, i went right back to smoking.
Hope things work our better then that for your sake,
Love Karen
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| From: wild_under_score |
Day 2 of my quit smoking campaign. I
need all the help I can get so I'm wearing a patch. This morning
I was reading through the accompaying booket and saw the
following:
Question: Is NicoDerm CQ just substituting one
form of nicotine for another?
Answer: NicoDerm CQ does
contain nicotine. The purpose of NicoDerm CQ is to provide you
with enough nicotine to reduce the physical withdrawl symptoms
so you can deal with the mental aspects of
quitting.
Guess, what? Friends, co-workers and doctors
couldn't care less about my using a pactch to get me off the
cigs. I haven't looked into any quit smoking groups but somehow
I doubt they'd condem me either. It's a nice anology... too bad
those who use meth to help them deal with their addiction don't
get the social support nicotine addicts are
offered.
(Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying quitting
cigs compares to quitting H. Just commenting on the stigma of
methadone.) | |
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Wild, SO TRUE SO TRUE! luv, sue |
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| | | From: Sha | Sent: 12/21/2004 6:36 PM |
Acutaully they say quitting smoking is HARDER than heroin..I can believe it too. |
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I wonder how many of those that say that have actually quit a real heroin habit? Or maybe it's like, it's harder to quit cigarettes because the need to quit isn't as strong. I've only ever quit smoking for a few days at a time, since ten years ago or so. I don't have much trouble quitting for a few days even now, seeing as I do every now and then when I visit my nonsmoking friends and relatives, but it's certainly gotten harder. I hear it's only worse after about the third day and more though. I think maybe I wouldn't get a patch if I were to quit though, especially after what I've learned about quitting heroin. Unless you're going through unbearable pain, which I really doubt you would from quitting cigarettes, I would think it would just prolong the withdrawals. I've been thinking about quitting too, though. Jeez, I like chain smoke nowadays. And I told myself about fifteen years ago that smoking would be OK if I just did it for a few years. Ha ha. Anyway, it WOULD reduce the risk if I quit now, but man, they sure taste good sometimes, like after a good meal, with coffee. I'd like to hear other people's experiences with the patch, gum, whatever, too. Good luck quitting. onthe1 |
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On the One,
I have smoked for about 25 years now off and
on.
My longest time without a cigarette was for 7
years.
I quit one new years day, cold turkey, and for me that is
what works.
A few years ago I tried to quit again with the
patches.
I used them alot longer then the recommended time on the
box,. my doc said it wasn't a big deal.
As soon as I quit using the patch, (they are friggin
expensive), I went right back to smoking.
So for me, If I quit again,(not sure I really want to,
lol) I will try it cold turkey, Love Karen
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I wonder how many of those that say that have actually quit
a real heroin habit? Or maybe it's like, it's harder to
quit cigarettes because the need to quit isn't as strong.
I've only ever quit smoking for a few days at a time, since
ten years ago or so. I don't have much trouble quitting
for a few days even now, seeing as I do every now and then when
I visit my nonsmoking friends and relatives, but it's certainly
gotten harder. I hear it's only worse
after about the third day and more though.
I think maybe I wouldn't get a patch if I were to quit
though, especially after what I've learned about quitting
heroin. Unless you're going through unbearable pain, which
I really doubt you would from quitting cigarettes, I would think
it would just prolong the withdrawals.
I've been thinking about quitting too, though. Jeez,
I like chain smoke nowadays. And I told myself about
fifteen years ago that smoking would be OK if I just did it for
a few years. Ha ha. Anyway, it WOULD reduce the risk
if I quit now, but man, they sure taste good sometimes, like
after a good meal, with coffee.
I'd like to hear other people's experiences with the patch,
gum, whatever, too.
Good luck quitting.
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Just my 2 cents,
I have heard people say "it's harder to quit cigarettes than heroin" also, and as far as I'm concerned that is totally untrue. Actually, I taught health classes at a high school briefly, and that was tauight to the students, and it always bothered me because it downplayed how serious drug addiction is in an attempt to scare kids away from smoking. (I think honesty about the dangers of both is better).
I have quit both - heroin 7 years ago, and tobacco 3 years ago, and I smoked for a lot longer than I used heroin. Quiting smoking was very touch, and I was bitchy and emotional and all that, but in no way did it even compare to quiting heroin. That's like comparing having your leg cut off to a papercut. I think that the saying came from people who quit smoking, and thought it was really hard, but who have never gone through quiting dope. On a chemical level, there are similarities between the detoxes, and it may even be harder for the body to rid itself of nicotine (I'm not sure), but psychologically heroin is WAY worse. Especially because quiting it successfully usually require a profund shift in the person's peer group, lifestyle, and even entire identity as a human being. Cigarrette are really bad, and quiting sucks, but I would challenge anyone who says it's harder to quit than heroin.
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Cigarettes harder to quit? Figure how many hard core smokers have
managed to quit in the past 10-20 years. It's got to be a lot higher %
of all smokers than the % of heroin addicts that have managed to quit.
And while kicking nicotine is not fun, you're still totally functional
and are not physically sick when you first quit. I think that the notion
of cigarettes being harder has something to do with it's addictive
properties. It's not that it's harder, just that you get the physical
addiction quicker than you do heroin. Sure, there are times when smoking
is pleasant but almost immediately we smoke because our bodies expect
nicotine. No honeymoon period when you can say you're doing it for the
rush.
There are some aspects that make it a bit harder. If I really want a
cigarette I can get one in 10 minutes at the most. I can have a pack
before I even have time to think it through. And, while there are fewer
and fewer smokers these days there's no way I can avoid sometimes being
around people who smoke. I suspect I'll always envy them in a way.
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| | From:  ©Sha | Sent: 12/28/2004 4:03 PM |
I think they're damn hard to quit..and not nearly as many heroin addicts as there are smokers..and you touched on a good point wild..they are easily accessible to say nothing of legal. I have been puffing away for a looooooooong time as long as I've used drugs..it's daunting to think of quitting these too. But I'm going to give it a shot..how is the patch working? I hear conflicting things about them..some good others not so good. Sha |
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