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| | From:  aliki33 (Original Message) | Sent: 7/31/2007 2:54 PM |
slowly but surely kicking off methadone. was at 100, now at 40/day. this process has taken a long time. (started going down from 100 about 9 months ago). i am going down to 35 tomorrow and hope to be off of it altogether by the fall. should i consider suboxone? any tips? is the methadone kich still horrible even if you go down slow like i have been doing? does the heroin habit have anything to do with how hard the methadone kick will be or does that not even matter anymore? my struggle with all of this has been frustrating and very hard. any advice would be greatly appreciated aliki |
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Hi Aliki,
You ask alot of question that i dont have the answers for.
I just wanted to welcome you to H of H and hope someone here can be more help then i am.
Im on suboxen and its works wonders for me.
I was addicted to morphine because of a fucked up back.
Its been 5 months since being off the morphine and on the suboxen.
I suffer NO pain and im slowly weaning off a mg every other week.
I started on 16mgs and am now down to 8.
I will continue to wean off unless i start having a problem and then i will consider what to do about it.
Im no Massicist so if i suffer pain or withdrawl you best believe i will go up to a comfortable dose..
Its all about my goals, not the amount of suboxen im on.
I wish you well, love Karen |
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| | | From: Snue | Sent: 8/6/2007 10:30 PM |
Hi Loving Mom, I'm on 30-35mls of methadone right now, its taking over my
life and i'm desperate to get off. At first it was the answer to me getting
off heroin which i'd been on for 3-4 yrs, I was getting in more and more
trouble for shoplifting, and although I tried my hardest it started to
affect my children who are now 19 and 12 yrs old, social worker's got
involved and I nearly lost them so I decided I had to get off the heroin. I
was initially put on 80mls a day with daily pick up, I stuck to it and threw
out all the paraphenalia and hanger's on who called theirselves 'friends',
redecorated my house (in a fashion) and bought all new things for the house
and for myself and the children. My son unfortuantly went to live with his
father 200 mile away at 12 but although i was gutted I threw myself into
college and came away with a counselling skills certificate and then a
access to highter education cert. I applied to uni and have just completed a
degree in health and social care. I live with my boyfriend who has never
been an addict, and supported me as a friend even when i was. My children
are healthy happy and wont touch fags let alone drugs, they love and respect
me for what i have achieved but at times I still feel they will never
completely forgive me.
So yes it would seem I have done better since doing methadone but in other
ways it has been a nightmare. I find i'm judged by people, even in the
health and social care professions, I have found it difficult to get work
and even work placements during uni. The drug team I was under lost me in
their system for 6 yrs, I continued to cut down to 35 mls a day and then I
got a new worker who hadn't a clue and she felt i'd be better on 40mls a day
instead, when I asked for a detox5 she said I wouldn't be able to do it as
i'm not mentally strong enough and would relapse! I was angry that this
woman who barely knows me can tell me whats best for me, I have since moved
away and have a new drug team who have told me I would be able to have a
detox but I have to see their psychiatrist first? It seems to me that the
more determined I am to do a detox the more determined they are to stop me
going for it. I have now put going back to uni to do my honours degree in
social welfare back a year so I could give it a shot at getting a detox5,
being mentally and physically healthier and happier before going back to
studying and trying to getting placements. My aim is to do the masters
degree in social work and either becoming a social worker with the drug team
or a drug worker, I cant do this whilst stuck on methadone it's not possible
as health professionals cant take you on and the certificates will be for
nothing. It's already 6 mths into my 'gap yr' and I feel no closer to
getting employment in the health profession, no closer to getting a detox5
and definately no closer to going back and achieving more degree's.
Please do you have any advice?? It's really getting me down and i'm already
on anti-depressants.
Thanks for taking the time to read this msg, it's appreciated even if you
cannot help..
Kind regards, take care.
Susanne
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HEY SNUE, GOOD LUCK AND POST BACK IF YOU CAN!!! ARE YOU FROMTHE UK OR AUSTRAILIA???? IM TRYING TO GET OFF METH TOO...ITS BEEN 9 YEARS FOR ME UP AND DOWN...SAME ISSUES WITH ONE OF MYC CHILDREN AT ONE POINT.....EVERYTHING GREAT NOW. STILL ON 9 MGS, BUT I THINK IM GOING TO COME OFF SOON!!!! GOOD LUCK LOVE BETH |
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| | | From: Indigo | Sent: 11/2/2007 10:00 PM |
I first got on methadone in 1967, so I'm quite familiar with most aspects of methadone--For those of you that want to get off> the most successful detox is the VERY VERY slow approach--especially when you get down to 25 to 30 mg---At that point coming down 1 or 2 mgs per week is ideal--It definitely can be different for each individual---I've seen people walk away from a 20mg habit & go cold turkey, but why torture yourself? Going down very slow is by far the most successful method--I know of many cases of people at 100 mg for 5 years, then decided its time to get off--The ones who planned a slow detox succeeded far more often--I've seen many people stay on 2 mg for there last 4 to 6 months of detoxing--it was psvchological (like a placebo), but it helped them (or at least they believed it)---So going down slow & listening carefully to what your body tells you is my best suggestion for those who want to come off of the methadone---I've seen 100s of successful detoxes---Plan it! You can do it! If your cravings start to kick in during your detox, then stay at the same dose for abit longer--its not a race--you want to do it right! Many of my closest friends were on heroin for 10 to 20 years & then went to methadone for 3 to 7 years & have now been totally clean for around 10 years---so I've seen the success of methadone many times.. Good luck to all of you -- Indigo* PS-- Unfortunately, your sleep is usually the last aspect of methadone detoxing to return to normal--it can take months depending on how long you stayed on methadone & how high your dose was-- try to physically exercise, meditation & hot baths-- Don't get me wrong--Its not going to take months for you to sleep--but it may take months to return to "normal" sleep patterns.. |
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| | | From: Snue | Sent: 5/14/2008 7:50 PM |
Hi Beth, thankyou so much for getting back to me regarding withdrawing off methadone. I live in the U.K nr Birmingham, I don't have any friends here and only the drug centre know's i'm on methadone-my family think i'm clean. I have got down to 23ml a day and as of nxt wk it will be 20ml's. I have been on the net trying to find people who can give me advice on how to make withdrawal easier, what drugs are and arn't good to use. So far what I have found is that people often dont come off or stay off methadone as it so painful, i'm starting to believe it as have had some horrible aching in my bones, runny nose and yawning so far but I know the worst is coming and i'm scared. I have no support really as my drug worker and my fella haven't the foggiest what I feel like physically let alone mentally. I need to be intouch with people who are going through or been through meth withdrawal. I hope we can stay friends and maybe help each other through?  Thanks again for replying. Snue |
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| | | From: Snue | Sent: 5/14/2008 8:09 PM |
Hi Indigo, I just realised that your msg was sent in dec 2007 so I'm not sure if your still about? I am desperate for some advice on whats best to do when withdrawing off methadone. I was on 36mls and have now gone down to 23mls til nxt drop nxt wk to 20mls. I get very anxious and am currently on antidepressants-Efexor 75mg. To be honest I didn't think anyone came off and esp stayed off methadone, all the websites I have visited seem to be full of people saying your on it for life-this makes me want to give up life!! I get aching bones, severe depression etc and know the worst is to come. I have no support as my family think i am clean and the drug worker and fella haven't a clue as never been there!! Please send me some advice i will be very grateful. Best Wishes Susanne |
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HI SNUE, IM AT 5MGS WENT BELOW THAT IN NOV/DEC AND HAD A VERY HARD TIME~!!!!! IM STILL TRYING TO GET HE HELL OFF THIS METHADONE!!!!! IT IS THE HARDEST THING IVE TRIED TO GET OFF OF. I AM PETRIFIED OF WHATS GONNA HAPPEN. I, TOO, HAVE A CHRONIC RUNNY NOSE...WEIRD SENSE OF SMELL BUT THE ULTIMATE WORST IS.....NOT SLEEPING!!!!! IT'S GONNA DRIVE ME MAD !!!! GOOD LUCK AND LET ME KNOW HOW THINGS ARE!!! LOVE BETH |
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It sure helps me to keep the metabolism clean.
Any kind of detoxing I can do will help with the 'done detox.
Ever notice how cigarettes create craving for something stronger?
Well it seems to work the same with any pollutant.
I have a fast metabolism now, from
�?being vegan,
�?fasting,
�?exercise-
and my 'done detox is sweet now.
At first I also had fatal subconscious anxiety
creating stress, which makes me antsy crazy
and kept me on 100mg for years.
So finally I got a prescription for my anxiety.
BUT 'DONE DON'T address anxiety!
Dont let them give it to you for that.
I used "remarin" for anti-anxiety for a few weeks when I first came down off of 100mgs.
Then I dropped Remarin also.
Now I'm at 50m a. |
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