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Methadone : meth/suboxone
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From: MSN Nicknamelifeoverkill23  (Original Message)Sent: 8/21/2007 1:43 AM
hey guys me again,
 
see what an addictive personality i have , i came back to post and wont leave you all alone(FREAK!!!!)  anyhow, the reason im posting is regarding the methadone/suboxone posts i was reading.....i had a script to switch a few years ago, and i got soo sick on the suboxone that i completely had a mind/body freak out ....that was 4 years ago.....but here in massachusetts they seem to like the suboxone!!!!!!
 
im on 10 mgs of meth now and willing to give the suboxone another try, but i guess i need to do it just right.....i guess im a bit disillusioned about the whole ordeal, due to the bad experience i had. 
 
karen....i didnt even know you were on suboxone!!!!!!  how long ive been away!! any feedback would be awesome!!!!!
love beth
ps.  took my son alex to see UNDERDOG today and cried at a certain point in the movie!!!!  i must be a pussaaaay


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From: MSN NicknameSuziblues2Sent: 8/21/2007 2:37 AM
Is Underdog that cartoon doggie?  LOL!    I used to watch that when I was a kid! 
You cried?!    hahahaha!  sounds like me.....
 
Suboxone seems like a good thing, only I cant get on it because I have Hep C.
 
luv,
sue

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From: MSN NicknameLovingmom2433Sent: 8/21/2007 2:40 AM
Hi Beth,  Yes, im on subutex which is  the same thing as suboxene without the naloxene in it.
 
I suffered severe chronic pain in my back and left leg that started a year after Gino died.
I went a year back and forth suffering severe pain until my family doctor referred me to a pain clinic.
I went to the pain clinic and also saw a surgeon who finally after several procudures realized i had spinal stenosis. At that time i was on oxys for pain.
 Part of my spine was compressing on my sciatic nerve so badly that my leg ached, my foot would go numb and i would trip over my foot.
After surgery all of my leg pain went away but i suffered nerve pain and also residual pain from 3 herniated disks i had in my back.
I was put on morphine after surgery because i had built up a tolerance to oxys.
Not once did the doctor recomend  that i go down on the morphine, or switch it.
when i would tell him about my pain he would up it, again and again
 
The pain doc kept prescibing me drugs, doing nerve blocks, doing rhiztomy's , and had steriod injections in my back.
He kept insisting i would be on pain meds for life and to get use to it.
I had every side effect possible and was always dragging ass I was SO tired.

Everytime i would question him about my pain meds he would get pissed and threaten to kick me out of this pain clinic.
He knew what he was doing, I was dependant on morphine, he knew i wasnt going anywhere.
Just before i left his clinic i was on 180mgs a day of morphine and it was doing nothing for my pain,I was in pain 24/.7 and the doctor said to up it again because i built up a tolerance to it,  I said NO, i want to wean off, and the pain doc
finally agreed to start weaning me off.
I think part of the problem is as soon as i had a reduction in pain meds my pain would increase and then i would end up taking more medicine.
 
I got so discouraged so my therapist suggested i go see Dr. Haines, a doctor who knows alot about suboxene.
Most doctors had a 8 hr training class on the drug before they could prescibe it, Dr, Haines was prescribing it in London before it was approved in the US.
I told him my situation and he thought i would do well to go off the morphine with the help of suboxen.
The naloxene in the suboxen made me sicker then a dog  but it didnt happen until i was on it for a couple of week, so i had to be swithed to subutex.
 
Its been WONDERFUL, i have NO complaints at all on it.
I had to be in full withdrawl to go on suboxen and i was SO sick.
Within 30 mins of taking my first dose of suboxen i felt human again,lol.
I got stable on 16mgs which i stayed on for a couple of months.
Right now im weaning down 1mg a week and doing very good with the drop.
Im now down to 6mgs, YEAH..
A few more weeks and i will be off.
The suboxen doctor is a pain doc too so he said there is LOTs of meds i can try for pain if need be.
The subutex controlls my pain incredibly well.
 
I know with methadone you have to be down to 30mgs to jump over to suboxen, your already below that so you should be able to switch over.
There are a few really good websites.
One is suboxen.com i think.
I dont have my computer right now, its in the shop so i dont have acess to any files.
That website also has a chat room where you can talk to other people on suboxen..
I wish you all the luck in the world,  Love Karen
 
 
 

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From: MSN Nicknamelifeoverkill23Sent: 8/21/2007 11:44 AM
oh karen what a nightmare!!!!!  you go girl!!!!  already down to 6 mgs, thats awesome.  like ive said a bunch of times, your a graet lady!!
love beth

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From: MSN Nicknamelifeoverkill23Sent: 8/21/2007 11:46 AM
sue,
 
yeah the movie was based on the old cartoon(which i also loved)  but this one had real dogs and people!!!!!  the dogs were soooo adorable.  and yeah i cried(so did my son) im a geek.
 
take care today
love beth

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From: MSN NicknameSuziblues2Sent: 8/21/2007 1:57 PM
Karen,
WOW!  You are doing so good!
luv,
sue

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From: MSN NicknameSuziblues2Sent: 8/22/2007 12:47 AM
Beth,
Awww...!    I cry at movies all the time.  Doesn't matter: cartoons, whatever.  Especially if it's a cute little puppy!

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From: MSN NicknameCatsrock12Sent: 8/22/2007 6:23 AM
My husband who is almost 50 cried at the Charolett's web movie...the one with real animals and Julia Roberts as Charolett.  It was a cute movie and thankfully we rented it and watched in the privacy of our own home... Sometimes I think my husband is part girl...he cries at all the sad chick flicks...go figure!
MOMCODA

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From: MSN Nicknamelifeoverkill23Sent: 8/22/2007 12:12 PM
THANKS GUYS!!!!!! 
LOVE BETH

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From: MSN Nicknamemoni1rockportSent: 8/23/2007 1:06 AM
 if you have hep C, you can't get on suboxone?  Do you know why?
 
I was thinking this for my son

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From: MSN NicknameLovingmom2433Sent: 8/23/2007 3:45 PM
Monica, have you checked out the website suboxen.com ??
You will find out so much info there.
They even have a chat room where you can talk to other people who are taking it or thinking about taking it.
I dont know exactly what the connection is between HepC and suboxen but i know first hand that it can cause the liver enzymes to go wacko.
Shbelegl, another member here at H of H is Hep C and was on methdaone for several years.
When she switched to suboxen it caused her HepC to run rampid and she had to go thru interferon treatments,
Shes now negative for the virus and I pray she stays that way.
She was forced to go back on Methadone and it upset her greatly.
She felt like she was going backwards.
I told her to just do what she has to do, shes healthy, hasnt used in several years so thats all that matters.
Love Karen

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