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can anyone tell me what it's like to finaly get off meth,u know that last drop from 5mg to nothing?danmed if i be on meth longer than i was on heroin! marc |
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I tried to sub meth for H and found that all I was doing was using 1 drug instead of the other so I went back to the big H and wound up in prison SUX!!! anyways when I got out I swore stuff would change it didn't I still used to make a long story short I have not used any mood alterind chemicals including alcohol for over 1 year now and I feel great, life is not 1 big fairy tale but I am working and hopefully will be going back to school to finish my degree soon- big change from th DA having to help hold my head up in court!! and trying to find a toilet to puke in every 15 minutes like it was last year!! good luck man and God bless!!! Look where youve been if you can walk through HELL and make it out alive you can get through the next few days without the meth too thats the worst part of it!!
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jussagirl,or is that slang for just a girl?,anyhow,that's great you got off,but it sux you went back to dope.what was that like for you?the first time i went on methadone,it was a 6 month detox program and once i got down to 35 i started using again cause i was getting sick.at 50mgs,i felt nothing,at 35,i got kinda high,at around 15 or 20,2 bags injected at once would override it,but i stopped using heroin before i got off compleatly and went up to 70.how long did it take you to feel the fx of the dope?i am currently at 20mgs now and going down again soon and i took a vicodin and soma a few days ago and felt nothing.let's face it,i still like to do drugs here and there,not heroin though,and i kinda like to feel something.i am still one of those people who have the delusion that they can 'use opiates resposably'i think that as long as i dont do H or get a pill habit,i'm fine.it is realy the dopesickness i want to avoid. sorry to hear you went to jail.that's probly in the top 3 biggest factors of why i am not going back to H. marc  i like cats |
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marc, I thought I could use opiates respoinsibly too paragoric was the bomb back in the day- I'm old enough to be your mom!Anyway I got dope sick comming off the big H and went to paragoric instead of meth, it wasnt around where I was at the time then I got pregnant and was straight with my doc- he kept me on the paragoric- I stayed on cuz I loved the stuff anyways I started mixing pills drinking and in a few years time went back to the big H- nothing works like the real thing!!!Sooner or later you keep playing with fire ya get burned- we either wind up in jail, institutions or DEAD- no thanks....I'm a fuckin junkie Marc...hey and I love cats too...I still love drugs I just can't use them or I will die and I really don't want to do that yet! Today is pretty cool sober- my thinking is clear for the first time ever- I can feel stuff I've never felt before-and if I want to I can actually have SEX .I couldn't before the drugs got in the way!!!It's kind of hard to bop and shoot up at the same time!;)Life is good.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:59 AM To: Heritics of Heroin Subject: Re: whats it like to be off? <STYLE type=text/css> /* Foreground colors */ .ThmFgColumnHeader, A.FrameLink, A.HeaderLink, A.FooterLink, A.LgtCmd, A.MSNLink {color:#FFFFFF;} .ThmFgTitleLightBk {color:#FF6600;} .ThmFgNavLink, A.NavLink, A.ChildLink:hover {color:#666699;} .ThmFgInactiveText, A.SystemLink {color: #666666;} .ThmFgFrameTitle {color: #FFFFCC;} .ThmFgTitleDarkBk, A.NavLink:hover, A.TitleLink {color: #CC6600;} .ThmFgMiscText, A.Cat, A.SubCat {color: #336699;} .ThmFgCommand, A.Command, A.LargeCommand, A.MsgLink {color: #003366;} .ThmFgHeader {color: #333333;} .ThmFgStandard, A.SystemLink:hover, A.SubLink, A.ChildLink, A.StdLink, SELECT.Standard {color: #000000;} .ThmFgDivider {color: #CCCCCC;} /* primarily for HR tags */ /* Background colors */ .ThmBgStandard {background-color: #FFFFFF;} .ThmBgUnknown1 {background-color: #FF6600;} .ThmBgFraming {background-color: #666699;} .ThmBgUnknown2 {background-color: #666666; display:none} .ThmBgHighlightDark {background-color: #FFFFCC;} .ThmBgHighlightLight, #idToolbar {background-color: #FFFFE8;} .ThmBgTitleDarkBk {background-color: #F1F1F1; display:none}} .ThmBgAlternate {background-color: #ECF1F6;} .ThmBgUnknown3 {background-color: #CCCCFF;} .ThmBgDivider {background-color: #CCCCCC;} .ThmBgHeader {background-color: #9999CC;} .ThmBgLinks {background-color: #8696C9;} .ThmBgSharkBar {background-color: #8696C9;} </STYLE>
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jussagirl,or is that slang for just a girl?,anyhow,that's great you got off,but it sux you went back to dope.what was that like for you?the first time i went on methadone,it was a 6 month detox program and once i got down to 35 i started using again cause i was getting sick.at 50mgs,i felt nothing,at 35,i got kinda high,at around 15 or 20,2 bags injected at once would override it,but i stopped using heroin before i got off compleatly and went up to 70.how long did it take you to feel the fx of the dope?i am currently at 20mgs now and going down again soon and i took a vicodin and soma a few days ago and felt nothing.let's face it,i still like to do drugs here and there,not heroin though,and i kinda like to feel something.i am still one of those people who have the delusion that they can 'use opiates resposably'i think that as long as i dont do H or get a pill habit,i'm fine.it is realy the dopesickness i want to avoid. sorry to hear you went to jail.that's probly in the top 3 biggest factors of why i am not going back to H. marci like cats | |
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| | | From: Indigo | Sent: 10/17/2002 11:31 PM |
Jussagirl -- Congrats on surviving the heroin hurricaine--it sounds like you're pretty clear on your limitations now---& yes, isn't sex great after years of being sexually neutered by our opiated protection! |
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| | | From: nessie | Sent: 10/18/2002 1:43 PM |
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What What What did you say that word 'sex'?????
!!!!! What is that again ???? An orgasim???Oh heavenlyyyyyyyyy ,,,oh well one
day !!! Just have to put up with being celebate for now ,,,at least I dont have
to worry about getting pregnant ,,,LOL !!!!! Blessed Be Always Nessie In
Love"N"Light XXX
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Jussagirl -- Congrats on surviving the heroin
hurricaine--it sounds like you're pretty clear on your
limitations now---& yes, isn't sex great after years of
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I seem to have lost my message, so this might be a repeat. I did come off meth. The only way is to go slow. I came down 2 milagrams every 14 days. The most important thing is to not use any other drugs, it makes it twice as hard. Let the meth. do its job. Sleepless nights were the worst thing for me and aches in my legs. I would get up at night and get in to a hot bath, it helps with both. The other thing is a lack of energy, it is an effort to walk across the room. It is not easy, but it does not compare to coming off heroin cold turkey. Good luck - stay strong - try advil it helps alot. If you are at 5 milagrams that is when I did not get any relief so I just stopped drinking, it was just prolonging the agony. After 7 yrs off heroin I thought that I could use and not get a habit, I was wrong so I am facing a detox again myself. This is my first time on this site I hope to get to know all of you. Fellow methadone addict, Jeanserene |
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I got on methadone in 2000, I had no clue that I wouldn't be able to feel heroin or other opiates while on it. So I was clean for about 9-10 months then I started having cravings and picked up again. I spent a ton on money trying to get high, but the high never came and eventually I started banging coke again too. That when on for six months or so, got kicked off the clinic and on and on. Finally I got on at a decent clinic and got on a decent dose, one that held me for the full 24 hours. Since then I have been on the same dose 110mgs. I haven't done heroin in a very long time, well about one year and that's a very long time to me. I'm well everyday but I am honestly getting so tired of the whole situation. I want to be free, I want to be able to sleep in for once, I want to travel, I want to be able to live a normal life without having to ask the clinic permission for everything. In March it will be three years total being on the methadone program. I have been on three clinics, the first one kicked me off, the second one was wonderful but I moved and had to switch clinics which leaves me at the clinic I am currently on. I am a good patient on paper, meaning no odd behavior, no dirty ua's and so on. I do use benzo's a few times a month, always after I ua because I don't want to get in trouble. I feel like I should start detoxing off simply because I have been on for three years and I my life is at a stand still and I feel like I should be moving on. But I am scared that I will get off and the whole nightmare might happen again. It's like I am scared to get off but I am scared of what my life will be become if I keep on the methadone like I have been. Don't get me wrong, without methadone I would not be sitting in front of this computer right now. I would out in rain copping dope here in shitty Seattle. I know everyone has their own pace, but I am totally confused right now. Should I try to detox or keep on oing what has worked so far? My aunt was on methadone and detoxed very slow. She has not used since. If I do detox I will plan on going down 5-7mgs a month. I'm not in a big hurry, and I know that slow is alot better. Any suggestions. Also this is the first time I have thought of doing this, I have never detoxed off methadone before. When I got kicked off I did dope until I got back on methadone. ~TK~ |
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| | | From: Indigo | Sent: 11/8/2002 7:42 PM |
Thunderkiss -- I'm in a very similar situation as far as wanting to get off of the meth after years of clinics etc,BUT, I'm scared shitless that I'll fuckup big time sometime after I get off of the juice---What I've decided is that I'll try to come down very slowly (so far I've come down from 120mg to 34mg in a couple of years) & if I start getting bad cravings or if I start using more often (Since I started on the meth I've always used every couple of months for a day or two with no increased using) then I'll immediately go back on the meth if I'm totally off of it, or raise my dosage if I'm still on a low dose...Whether that makes sense or not thats the path I'm on for now...I sure can relate to your fears & hopes...Good Luck, Indigo |
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I have been off methadone for just over a month and am on Bupe, at 8 mg a day. It keeps me from getting dopesick, and if I don't have bad stress of my PMDD I am fine. BUt if I do, I want to use very bad. I wasn't like that on meth. But meth made me a zombie. I feel like I am doomed. I haven't used and am too scared to on bupe, so that is good, but sometimes i Just want a shot. I did once when tapering down on meth,a nd I didn't get a major buzz, but tuned out enough and it actually satisfied me and I haven't done it since. That was 5 months ago. But we all know that doesn't work that way for long. I just need a better support system and gonna look around for that. I have a good career and don't want to waste it. sucks, but don't we all know it. grapeape |
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| | | From: leo | Sent: 8/6/2003 5:30 PM |
Marc: I came off the meth totally March 2001. Never went back to it. I have to tell you ITS GREAT. I took my time, came down real slow the last 5 ml was long. (was at 140 ml in the beginning) But at 2.5 I just stopped on my own I don't recommend that to anyone. But I was tired of a drug controlling my life, my moods, my time, I hated to pee in a cup when I was told. I wanted to control my own life again. I have dabbled here and there but nothing that stops my life or ruins it. I call them treats (maybe every 6 months if even). But not using a needle every day. My drinking is minimal and not binging (a couple and crash) this too is like every 6 months or so. It's great if this is as close to sober as I'm gonna get that is fine with me. I have my kids, my home, a car, a job (4 years in Nov). Compared to what I used to do this is sober for me. I have decreased everything down to such a minimum I am sure one day I will be totally sober. I wish you luck take your time. Don't rush it. If done right your life could be Great with you in total control -not the meth or your doctors/clinics. Peace take care and keep posting support is the number 1 component to success. We need help and support. Leo |
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