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Hi umm I was on heroin for about three years and my habit in the end was up to a brick a day. Then I got on methadone and was on it for two years. one whole year before I even stopped using. Then the whole year after that I thought I was doomed. I was convinced that I would be on it the rest of my life. I looked all haggard and I wanted to kill myself so I started shooting coke smoking coke shooting dope all while on methadone. I wanted to die sooo bad and I thought my life was through. I never really liked myself or my life but I always had a place in my head. Finally I just said screw it I'll take a chance Ill clean up because IM sooo fed up and I'll take a chance in living life. I said to myself that if i dont get any healthier i'll kill myself......If I end up with hep b or c or HIV I can always come back. So I started my detox I told them to take me down 5 mgs a day from 80mgs. (I didnt want a dragged out detox) Im not sure if it was a good idea or not because I ended up back on heroin again. I sold all my stuff my 2500$ computer system all my electronics everything. Then I started stealing from my family again. This went on for about 2 weeks then I finally said "Lets stop wasting time." I went down to stay with my aunt. and on the second day my aunt dragged me out to an herbalist and he gave me vitaman B complex along with chineese herbs which costs 50$ a bottle for a months supply plus multi-vitamins. One is called Calm Spirit and the other is Ease Plus. Boy oh Boy oh Boy I cannot believe to this day how much easier they made it to quit. they lowered the cravings and completely took away the fucked up feeling in my body along with that electric feeling in my legs and all throughout my body. I could never stay clean in the past I went to jail 4 times and everytime came out weeks or months later still feeling like shit.. My advise to anyone who has been a cronic heroin user for more then 9 months is to get on methadone (Hear me out) Im against methadone and at the same time I know it can work if people dont stay on it longer then 6 months or a year. Methadone if used properly does something to the brain which can help you come opiate free. (Only if you dont go above 90mgs and do not stay on it longer then 6 months to a year. And if you eat right and exercise without using on methadone it will be easier to come off of. Now if you combine this possibility and then start taking the herbs right before you stop meth. say aroung 25 mgs.......Then you can feel as content as I do. I got healthy big time. and my endorphins feel better then all the times in the past I tried to quit. As soon as I started taking these herbs and drinking valarium tea I started sleeping. 2 hrs the third night, 3 the next 5 then finally 8 hrs. Now remember everytime I tried to quit in the past I couldent sleep for weeks and the body pains were intense for weeks. And here I a sleeping on the third night without opiates after being on methadone for two years. As a matter in fact Ive never felt this good period.......except for when I was a child. I feel REBORN and I know that I wouldent feel this god if I never got Calm Spirit and Ease Plus.. you should see the things that are in these herbs. So if you really want to kick heroine and you been on it for a while you might want to try methadone only if you limit yourself to 6 months and make a sacrifice to stay clean because ill tell you this methadone helps you get used to living life without the mental aspect of being a heroine addict. were not just physically addicted were addicted to the chase and the lifestyle and the act of sticking needles in our arms (if youve gone that far.) Well I hope this helps somebody. By the way NA meetings in after the first two weeks was also a big help for me. Ive been clean for two months now (On the Street) Without going to rehab and without serious cravings. I even cut down on ciggaretts to 1-2 per day and thats pretty good for a smoker of 10 years. IM 23 by the way. And to anyone who smokes ciggaretts the reason why I got healthy big time has a lot to do with cutting down also. I wish that everyone out there just like me can pull through because there is a light in the end to those who want it. And by the way if you dont want to quit your not gonna quit. Drinking methadone damn thats like coating your body in plastic...hahaha....Well it is a synthetic.... remember don't go above 90 mgs and don't stay on it longer than a year......(thats what my friend told me right before he died from an overdose... Come on people lets beat this disease...remember it is possible......everyday someone gets off of it and for many of them it just becomes a part of there past...don't you want to be one of those? I do.....Unlike in the past I just wanted to be the one who dies of an overdose. |
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| | From:  Curium3 | Sent: 2/10/2004 1:48 AM |
Im new to the group, so first off, how are you guys all doing? I never went on Methadone. I was a chronic user for about 4-5 years. I live in the northeast so what you call abrick, may or may not mean a bundle up here. I was doin between 1 and 3 bundles a day depending on how much I could steal, etc. After several failed attempts at detox, I decided to just one day stop using. I decided I was going to come clean to Mom and crash at her house and detox. All I had was a bottle of Valerian root and some TylenolPM. I dont think either did anything.The first Three to Four days were terrible, I dont suggest to any one reading this to try it, so maybe X-Junkies method is better.After the first few days of severe pain, I was troubled with a good couple of weeks of no sleep, which Im sure everyone has been through.I was lucky enough to get in contact with some really old school AA'er's who helped me a lot.It seemed at this point that the detox was the easiest, because once youve been clean for a few days you start to think that it would be easy to do a couple bags and stop because you wouldnt withdrawal from it(a trap I fell into many times). I had been to many meetings that had not helped at all, but when I met up with these guys, everything was different. They actually explained all the steps in detail to me. After that it was just a matter of doing them. Thats where the real part of sobriety came into play.I wont bore you with all the details of my twelve steps(but please ask if you need the advice), but I remember the biggest aspect of them was actually going out and finding addicts and even alcoholics. It didnt matter what they were doing as long as I tried to help them. After a few weeks, I could feel the difference in my self. I no longer had an empty soul, I had a purpose in life that filled me with joy and happiness.Even to this day I still try to help people in the same situation I was in.I actually have to finish this up now bwcause I have junkie moving in as I type who is higher than a kite and trying to tell me he hasnt used in weeks. Like Im not gonna know. Sorry if this is a little of topic, but Im just hoping to help someone.Later. |
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Dear Wildsunproject,
What a wonderful thing you are doing with other
addicts. My Motto in life is " help others so we dont dwell on our own
problems." That is what i do here on H of H. I lost my son to a
heroin overdose 16 months ago and i am here for myself and for anyone that needs
me. Keep posting and welcome. :Love Karen
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Im new to the group, so first off, how are you guys all
doing? I never went on Methadone. I was a chronic user for about
4-5 years. I live in the northeast so what you call abrick, may
or may not mean a bundle up here. I was doin between 1 and 3
bundles a day depending on how much I could steal, etc. After
several failed attempts at detox, I decided to just one day stop
using. I decided I was going to come clean to Mom and crash at
her house and detox. All I had was a bottle of Valerian root and
some TylenolPM. I dont think either did anything.The first Three
to Four days were terrible, I dont suggest to any one reading
this to try it, so maybe X-Junkies method is better.After the
first few days of severe pain, I was troubled with a good couple
of weeks of no sleep, which Im sure everyone has been through.I
was lucky enough to get in contact with some really old school
AA'er's who helped me a lot.It seemed at this point that the
detox was the easiest, because once youve been clean for a few
days you start to think that it would be easy to do a couple
bags and stop because you wouldnt withdrawal from it(a trap I
fell into many times). I had been to many meetings that had not
helped at all, but when I met up with these guys, everything was
different. They actually explained all the steps in detail to
me. After that it was just a matter of doing them. Thats where
the real part of sobriety came into play.I wont bore you with
all the details of my twelve steps(but please ask if you need
the advice), but I remember the biggest aspect of them was
actually going out and finding addicts and even alcoholics. It
didnt matter what they were doing as long as I tried to help
them. After a few weeks, I could feel the difference in my self.
I no longer had an empty soul, I had a purpose in life that
filled me with joy and happiness.Even to this day I still try to
help people in the same situation I was in.I actually have to
finish this up now bwcause I have junkie moving in as I type who
is higher than a kite and trying to tell me he hasnt used in
weeks. Like Im not gonna know. Sorry if this is a little of
topic, but Im just hoping to help
someone.Later. | |
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| | | From: Snue | Sent: 5/12/2008 1:35 PM |
Hi, firstly well done getting clean and staying clean..I am currently detoxing off a 6yr habit on methadone-the drug worker's put me on meth after doing heroin for 4yr's and several failed detox's. This has to be the hardest thing I have EVER done. I was on 36ml meth and am on anti.depressants, so the drug worker said I will detox at 3ml a fortnight til I get too 17ml then I'm going on a 3 week course of tablets Lefexodine to help with the withdrawal pains etc that should last anywhere up to 6 wk's!! I have searched on the net and found lots of people who have or are still trying to detox off methadone and nearly all said it cannot be donw as it sends you mad with pain physically and mentally. So far I'm down to 23ml, but I have been doing a lot of coke and speed on weekends and now i'm down to 23ml I've started to feel unwell-I sweat all the time, I'm anxious, scared I wont be able to take the pain (coming off heroin was a killer, it nearly crippled me up thats why I went back on it) I feel sick a lot of the time and I can feel the aching in my bones and my back. Last night I didn't sleep at all so today I'm like a zombie.. I'm going back to university in sept and i need to be clean with a car to get there, it's just 3 months away!!!! My family assume i'm clean for last 5 yr so I cant go to them 4 support, my fella works a lot of hours and I have no friends in this town we live in. I have never heard of those tablets u said are helpful-do they sell them in the U.K? I'm eating healthy foods, drinking more fluid than I ever have in my life and trying to get support with this monkey on my back. I am suicidal when the pain gets bad, I have lost a lot of friends to this shite and it wrecked my life, I'm usually a upper's type of person-go raving on pills, speed and coke, I have never been into heroin/opiotes. Please, Please can u give me some advice or just a friend to chat too who knows what it is like as my fella hasn't a clue how to help or how bad it actually gets. Well done for getting the monkey off ur back i'm made up that someone has actually done it! You take care, pls get back to me, Thankyou. Susanne |
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Susanne, The post you read above about how the person detoxed was written back in 2003. I don't think that person is around anymore. You may want to post your question on the general message board...it might get missed here. I am not a heroin user so I can't offer you any advice. Hopefully someone on this board will see your post and reply. MOMCODA |
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