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From: MSN NicknameAdvnelisgi®  (Original Message)Sent: 10/18/2005 7:24 PM
Welcome..... AftOnAGale
 
Have a Question..... just ask..... we can get you the right answer....the life saving one...check out the messageboards on the left..
 
Wizard
 
P.S The only dumb question ........is the one never asked....


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From: MSN NicknameAdvnelisgi®Sent: 10/18/2005 7:26 PM
It is assumed that if you are reading this, you may be considering the
possibility of socio-economic collapse from any number of reasons.  If it
comes to this, we all know that it won't be like the depression of the
1930's, when the unemployed homeless came around to your back door at
mealtime, begging for a bowl of soup which those employed were willing to
share.
 
     Now days people are dependant on gov't welfare, and consider it their
right to be given (or take by force) the necessities of life. 
 
For every family that gives up vacations, meals out, consumer goods, etc. to prepare,
thousands & thousands of other families will not! 
 
You survival will depend on your ability to protect what you have.
 
Wizard

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From: MSN NicknameSneakyRick®ReconSent: 10/19/2005 7:53 AM
Welcome AftOnAGale
It's nice to see you. Lots of info here and more being added every day. If you have a particular interest and you don't see anything here, don't be afraid to ask.

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From: MSN NicknameDarthNugentIVSent: 10/20/2005 1:50 AM
Hey, welcome to the group. Silly question but, I take it you like to sail?

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From: MSN NicknameKiwiKidNedSent: 10/20/2005 4:23 AM
Hi and welcome AftonaGale

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From: MSN NicknameAftOnAGaleSent: 10/20/2005 6:18 AM
Thank you all for your warm welcome!  To your question, yes, I do love to sail!.  The Aft On A Gale is also a metaphorical way to express life, especially now in these increasingly challenging times.  Don't you feel like we are all trying to stay Aft of the boat, riding out the Gale wind that we know is going to blow even harder?  And Wizard, yes I agree, having supplies and being prepared is important, but having a means of protecting it is equally so.  I think Dad's shotgun will do (he has other guns for himself.)  I don't expect to need to put it to full use, but think of it as a Big Stick that will be sufficient to deter.  As far as questions I have??.  There could be so many.  How about the little referenced impending suitcase "bomb" that is supposed to be detonated in New York or D.C.  Doubt it will be this weekend with the 3rd Cat 5 hurricane bearing down on the States.  Any comments on that?  I am not sure what the appropriate discussions are for this forum yet. 
 
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From: MSN NicknameAdvnelisgi®Sent: 10/20/2005 7:41 PM
Glad to see you posting.
 impending suitcase "bomb" that is supposed to be detonated in New York or
D.C.
from mynotes on the subject:
 
A former senior Russian intelligence officer advising the FBI on tracking the
terrorists behind Apocalypse America revealed last week that Osama bin-Laden
possesses some of the 3,000 radio-controlled “suitcase nuclear devices�?the
KGB secretly sowed at the height of the Cold War around NATO bases in
Germany.  Targets included U.S. bomber bases and listening posts around
Frankfurt and Munich.
 
            Colonel Stanislav Lunev, who worked in the GRU, Soviet Military
Intelligence’s Middle East desk, before defecting to the United States says more
than 300 of the devices had disappeared when the successor to the KGB, the
Russian Federal Intelligence Service, came to retrieve them after the collapse
of the Soviet Union.  Until now their disappearance has been a closely-guarded
secret between the CIA, MI6 and the Russian FIS.
 
Each bomb had an explosive charge equal to one kiloton �?or one thousand
tons of TNT.  Such a device exploded in the center of a majot city would
destroy every building within a kilometer radius of Ground Zero.  Within hours,
prevailing winds would carry the nuclear fallout to all parts of the city.
 
            Each bomb weighs some 30 kilograms and is designed to fit into a
duffel-bag or suitcase.  The Russians intended it to not only incapacitate NATO
bases but for a variety of sabotage missions:  destroying cities, dams and
seaports.
 
Russian General Vladimir Dvorkin confirmed that since the end of the Cold War
there had always been a fear that terrorist groups would obtain such weapons.
 
            “To smuggle them around is very easy.  A government that sponsors
terrorism can arrange for them to be shipped as diplomatic luggage.  the
suitcase-bombs look just like other luggage.�?
 
            “The devices may well have been obtained by the Russian Mafiya and
then sold on to terror groups like bin-Laden’s,�?Lunev said.
 
            His claim that bin-Laden’s group, al-Qaeda, has a nuclear capability
was reinforced by a former close associate of bin-Laden.
 
            Jamal al-Fadl, who is now the FBI’s “supergrass�?in its investigation of
bin-Laden’s network, has revealed he was personally in charge of obtaining
nuclear materials for bin-Laden.
 
            The forty-three years old Algerian-born terrorist defected to the United
States after brokering a deal.  In exchange for a promise of a new start in the
American Witness Protection programme �?he has agreed to reveal all he knew
about his former boss.
 
            Today al-Fadl is in a heavily-guarded safe house “somewhere in the
United States�?is all the FBI will say.
 
            But the agency confirmed that the former terrorist is “invaluable�?in the
global war all American intelligence agencies have launched against terrorists.
 
            After President Bush said he wanted bin-Laden “dead or alive,�?the
hunt for him has gained even more momentum.  It now focuses on the “real
possibility�?that bin-Laden will launch a nuclear strike with one of the “suitcase
bombs he now possesses,�?Stanislav Lunev says.
 
Stanislav Lunev confirmed that a sizeable portion of the Soviet Union’s nuclear
arsenal had been sited in Kazakhstan during the height of the Cold War.
 
            “The collapse of the Soviet system was so fast that Moscow did not
have time to move those weapons back to Russia.  The result was that
Kazakhstan became a mecca for the mafia to buy up all kinds of nuclear
weapons.�?
 
            A senior Mossad source explained how easy it would be to unleash a
suitcase bomb in the center of any major city.
 
            “The bomb is in a normal-looking suitcase.  The terrorist goes to a
railway station, bus terminal or airport.  He has preset the bomb to explode say
in an hour or so.  He places the bomb in a left-luggage locker and goes his
way.  Tens of thousands of people use such lockers every day.  The incredible
thing is that, a week after the attack on America, those lockers are still freely
available around the world.�?

 Since the attack on America, the possibility that bin-Laden is poised to deliver
a nuclear strike has, in the words of former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky,
“gone from possible to very probable.�?/DIV>
 
            He believes that bin-Laden could launch a “suitcase-type bomb�?that
could even surpass the destruction at the Twin Towers.
 
I will add more on this subject to the WMD Survial messageboard....
 
Wizard

 
 
 

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