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Lesson Board : Lesson #5 Pantheons, Deities, and Patron Deities
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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameQyzida</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 8/15/2007 2:42 PM

Ever since the beginning of the human race Man has needed a God.

They associated all things that happened beyond their control to a higher power. All things unexplained were Holy and sometimes those things were frighteningly powerful, so they knew they had to be controlled by someone bigger and more powerful than themselves.

To understand their Gods, they associated things in nature to certain behavioral aspects they understood, this is called anthropomorphizing. Sometimes their gods behavior reminded them of the animals they saw around them and their gods became associated with having the animals attributes, or vice versa.

As Society and culture evolved, many of the gods, while having supernatural powers were thought to be mostly human in shape and temperament and each culture had a group of gods that oversaw the unknown and unexplainable and regular forces of nature and the world around them. These are called Pantheons.

Many different cultures have what seem to be interchangeable gods with other Pantheons because of the similarity of association of human nature that is common in every culture. Some gods are particular to a certain culture because of the region in which that culture is located. For instance a god of snow and ice in the Norse culture, wouldn't be conceived of in a pantheon from a culture in a tropical region, However, a god of mischief, or love would be seen in most societies Pantheons across the globe.

Some argue that the gods of old were aliens of advanced races that visited earth and because of their advanced knowledge and technologies were viewed by early man to be supernatural, and therefore assigned the status of gods. This is possible in some instances, but not provable. Ancient petroglyphs, carvings, legends and even the Nazca Lines in Peru are used as evidence of alien influence. Legends of Atlantis as well are ripe with speculation of alien connections and influences on primitive cultures after it's legendary sinking with legends of survivors integrating into cultures on the mainland.

Throughout time Scholars and Theologians have endeavored to define and regulate the Divine to a level of understanding that attempted to explain the nature of the Divine, and exert control on the masses by creating a hierarchy of a specialized society where in certain levels of knowledge and understanding were dispensed in increments to prevent the unprepared from being overwhelmed by the awesome Power of the Divine. Some handled this task with grace, others botched it horribly. Those that handled it well, did it without a political agenda without thinking of using their knowledge and understanding as a tool to gain power, influence, wealth and domination, but rather to heal, guide, and counsel. I don’t think I need to name names of those who botched it, history makes their actions, and the consequences of their actions blatantly obvious.

One of the definitions of different types of Deity discuss the difference between Immanent and Transcendental Deity.

Transcendental Deity described briefly: *"The term 'transcendence' derives from a Latin word meaning 'to go beyond'." It refers to deity as existing above, outside of, or beyond creation. It is generally a different and higher order of being than are humans and other living entities. For example, the ancient Hebrews viewed God as seated on a throne in Heaven above the firmament, where he could smell the delicious fragrance of meat cooking on temple altars.*

Immanent Deity described briefly: *"Immanence" is also derived "from Latin, but conveys the polar opposite sense of 'indwelling' or the quality of 'within-ness'." Deity is seen as being within the universe, perhaps an "...inner presence and Power that permeates, saturates, or infuses the universe and everything in it..." For example, Taoists believe that the Tao a formless, unchanging and self-sufficient form of energy, which was present before the universe existed. and continues to be present in all things.*

Regardless of the origin of Deities and their Pantheons, the fact is they exist, and their stories, legends, and lessons have been passed down throughout time and have influenced Man's entire social structure, morals, ethics, and values.

Each Deity has it's own personality and talents and attributes, some we ourselves can associate and empathize with, others are repellent to us. as you research different Deities and their quirks, you will find a certain level of connection with one or more particular Deity. That familiarity is not an accident. It could be influenced by past life experience or just the fact that as you introduce yourself to that Deity, He/she/it, may take a liking to you or notice something in your spiritual growth that needs improvement or tweaking and will take a special interest in you and take the time to teach you for a while, or even a lifetime.

This is referred to as a "Patron Deity", a close mentor and friend of high respect, a teacher and confidant. When you have learned the lessons that Deity has taken time to teach you they may "kick you out of the nest" to go on to another Deity to learn another lesson, or it could be that your relationship with them could grow into a lifetime relationship. Either way, always keep your mind open to expanding and growing opportunities for your spiritual path.

Your assignment for this lesson is to meditate on which pantheon you feel inspired to research and learn as much as you can about the culture than it comes from. Explore you inner spirit to see what makes you feel connected to them and get to know the deities in that Pantheon. Your connection with that culture can influence your understanding of what a deity from that pantheon is trying to teach you. when you have discovered a God/dess with whom you feel could be a patron Deity for you, write an 300 word essay (or longer if you wish) about them and what you feel you might need to learn from them.

Possible resources for your search:

http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/

http://www.glorantha.com/library/religions/intro-pantheons.html

* http://www.religioustolerance.org/tran_imm.htm



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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameLadyMajykWhisperingOwl</NOBR> Sent: 8/15/2007 4:17 PM
There are a few more things that may need to be brought in to this lesson..such as the idea of pantheons...I am meaning... God and Goddesses of the same traditions being paired as well as the idea of the "stages" of deities..... maiden goddesses that tend to offer more councel to younger seekers that are just learning aspects...Mother Goddesses may call more to those with families to guide them...and Crone aspects will be more apt to be dominant to the more adept in the path..
 
I do want it brought out that "Fad" worship is just that..and you need to really seek to see what aspect is truly trying to help you.  It is nice to just say God or Goddess, but as you know them more and are more personal, they become a first name basis...just as anyone does as they start with Sir or Ms.  then go to the Mr or Ms.Jones then finally to John or Jane.  Your Goddess is not one that is picked just because it is a cool name to worship but rather, you look at the aspect and all that is there..study it and get to know that deity personally.
 
Also calling on Deity because they are in a negitive thinking is another area that needs to be addressed...we do not call on Hecate because we are mad at a boyfriend and want Her to "ZAP" him because he was seen with another girl.  Things like that will be an eye-opener for some that tend to be working a little on the revenge side of things.
 
(we have a few seekers that will be coming into first degree that are into the Morigain worship and I do not think they entirely understand what they are doing  there.)


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From: MSN NicknameQyzidaSent: 1/3/2008 10:27 PM
Ever since the beginning of the human race Man has needed a God.

They associated all things that happened beyond their control to a higher power. All things unexplained were Holy and sometimes those things were frighteningly powerful, so they knew they had to be controlled by someone bigger and more powerful than themselves.

To understand their Gods, they associated things in nature to certain behavioral aspects they understood, this is called anthropomorphizing. Sometimes their gods behavior reminded them of the animals they saw around them and their gods became associated with having the animals attributes, or vice versa.

As Society and culture evolved, many of the gods, while having supernatural powers were thought to be mostly human in shape and temperament and each culture had a group of gods that oversaw the unknown and unexplainable and regular forces of nature and the world around them. These are called Pantheons.

Many different cultures have what seem to be interchangeable gods with other Pantheons because of the similarity of association of human nature that is common in every culture. Some gods are particular to a certain culture because of the region in which that culture is located. For instance a god of snow and ice in the Norse culture, wouldn't be conceived of in a pantheon from a culture in a tropical region, However, a god of mischief, or love would be seen in most societies Pantheons across the globe.

Some argue that the gods of old were aliens of advanced races that visited earth and because of their advanced knowledge and technologies were viewed by early man to be supernatural, and therefore assigned the status of gods. This is possible in some instances, but not provable. Ancient petroglyphs, carvings, legends and even the Nazca Lines in Peru are used as evidence of alien influence. Legends of Atlantis as well are ripe with speculation of alien connections and influences on primitive cultures after it's legendary sinking with legends of survivors integrating into cultures on the mainland.

Throughout time Scholars and Theologians have endeavored to define and regulate the Divine to a level of understanding that attempted to explain the nature of the Divine, and exert control on the masses by creating a hierarchy of a specialized society where in certain levels of knowledge and understanding were dispensed in increments to prevent the unprepared from being overwhelmed by the awesome Power of the Divine. Some handled this task with grace, others botched it horribly. Those that handled it well, did it without a political agenda without thinking of using their knowledge and understanding as a tool to gain power, influence, wealth and domination, but rather to heal, guide, and counsel. I don’t think I need to name names of those who botched it, history makes their actions, and the consequences of their actions blatantly obvious.

When invoking Gods, it's wise to chose compatible members in balance with your intent, and this happens most often when you are invoking gods from the same pantheon. While there are many similiarities between Pantheons, to invoke one deity from an Egyptian Pantheon and another from a Nordic Pantheon, visualise the expressions on their faces as they meet. Talk about distraction and confusion!

Plus the sublte differences can cause certain power consequences that can be.... well... lets say...messy. So Rule of thumb... when invoking Deities, stay in the same pantheon. Change Pantheons if you wish, but in a separate occasion.

One of the definitions of different types of Deity discuss the difference between Immanent and Transcendental Deity.

Transcendental Deity described briefly: *"The term 'transcendence' derives from a Latin word meaning 'to go beyond'." It refers to deity as existing above, outside of, or beyond creation. It is generally a different and higher order of being than are humans and other living entities. For example, the ancient Hebrews viewed God as seated on a throne in Heaven above the firmament, where he could smell the delicious fragrance of meat cooking on temple altars.*

Immanent Deity described briefly: *"Immanence" is also derived "from Latin, but conveys the polar opposite sense of 'indwelling' or the quality of 'within-ness'." Deity is seen as being within the universe, perhaps an "...inner presence and Power that permeates, saturates, or infuses the universe and everything in it..." For example, Taoists believe that the Tao a formless, unchanging and self-sufficient form of energy, which was present before the universe existed. and continues to be present in all things.*

Regardless of the origin of Deities and their Pantheons, the fact is they exist, and their stories, legends, and lessons have been passed down throughout time and have influenced Man's entire social structure, morals, ethics, and values.

Each Deity has it's own personality and talents and attributes, some we ourselves can associate and empathize with, others are repellent to us. As you research different Deities and their quirks, you will find a certain level of connection with one or more particular Deity. That familiarity is not an accident. It could be influenced by past life experience or just the fact that as you introduce yourself to that Deity, He/she/it, may take a liking to you or notice something in your spiritual growth that needs improvement or tweaking and will take a special interest in you and take the time to teach you for a while, or even a lifetime.

This is referred to as a "Patron Deity", a close mentor and friend of high respect, a teacher and confidant. When you have learned the lessons that Deity has taken time to teach you they may "kick you out of the nest" to go on to another Deity to learn another lesson, or it could be that your relationship with them could grow into a lifetime relationship. Either way, always keep your mind open to expanding and growing opportunities for your spiritual path.

Caution and wisdom are requirements in dedication to a particular Deity. Some of them have agendas beyond human ability to fully comprehend the consequences of becoming their servants. Most of those do not NEED our participation in their work, as that Deity's work involved laws beyond our control or ability to perform the level of power needed to satisfy their agenda.

I'm not speaking of "evil" , but rather... for instance.... say... hypothetically, there is a god of Gravity....what could you do as a human to take over that function?

Same with Gods in charge of things like Karma and the Law of Return. Remember the movie, "Bruce Almighty"? He was given all the powers of "god" and he was overwhelmed. And that is a VERY mild example.

Serving a Deity who is a patron Deity is not a task to be taken lightly or for an adventure, even if the intent is well meaning.

A Patron Deity is an example to aspire to be like, but not necessarily EXACTLY like. One we empathize and find qualities in which we lack to gain and learn.

Much like a parent, we love and admire them and want them to be proud of us , but we don't want to be a carbon copy of them.

We need a Deity to provide us with balance and growth. Research in this department is not something to take lightly, but requires a intense and deep self examination of our own true needs, the ASK the gods for guidance. Listening to all the responses and using the brains they gave us to choose our Path. Hence the gift of Free Will.

One last Word to the wise. AVOID KARMA CALLS.

A Karma Call is the invocation of a goddess like Karma or Morgain to see that justice is done.

Justice is a happy thing, true, but when you invoke these Godesses of retribution, the first person they are going to pay attention to is the person who called them. So unless YOUR "back yard" is sparkling clean and you have NOTHING for her to examine with intense scrutiny....best just to trust that Goddess has the wisdom and power to notice things on her own, and be as good a toad as you can be.

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Your assignment for this lesson is to meditate on which Pantheon you feel inspired to research and learn as much as you can about the culture than it comes from. Explore you inner spirit to see what makes you feel connected to them and get to know the deities in that Pantheon. Your connection with that culture can influence your understanding of what a deity from that pantheon is trying to teach you. when you have discovered a God/dess with whom you feel could be a patron Deity for you, write an 300 word essay (or longer if you wish) about them and what you feel you might need to learn from them.

Possible resources for your search:

http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/

http://www.glorantha.com/library/religions/intro-pantheons.html

* http://www.religioustolerance.org/tran_imm.htm


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From: MSN NicknameLadyMajykWhisperingOwlSent: 1/4/2008 12:09 AM
I would like to see them look at the three aspects of Deity and what aspect they connect with,....is it the Maiden/warrior...the Mother/Father/ or the Crone /Sage...then have them find the panthean in the culture that called to them most.
It is Celtic...Egiptian...Asian...etc.
Let them learn the culture first then look at the "Name..rather than visa versa
 

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From: MSN NicknameQyzidaSent: 1/4/2008 12:45 AM
ASSIGNMENT
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Part one Due Jan 8, 2008

Examine your personality, make a list of your likes, dislikes, goals and traits apart from any religious coloring.

Write a short autobiography about yourself, attributes, faults, strengths, weaknesses, and tendencies....just as if you were doing a research paper

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Part two Due Jan 11 2008:
 
Choose from the cultures of the world, past or present that you feel a closeness to.
Research their culture, their history, thier mythology,  find info about their god/desses, pay attention ONLY to their personalities... you can make a file with info only about each one in that culture's pantheon, but DON"T include the name of the deity.
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Part three Due Jan 14, 2008:
 
Run a comparison on which god's personality with yours and see which one you are more attuned with.
Write an essay about the culture and how you feel connected with it. Explain what part you would play in that culture. Explain why you feel a kinship with the diety that most matches yours
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Part four Due Jan 16, 2008:
 
When you have finished, then AND ONLY THEN.....Match the name of the diety with the personality and reveal it with a paragraph or two about how that effects you personally

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From: MSN NicknameQyzidaSent: 1/4/2008 1:03 AM
Addendum to assignment....

And what you think you need to learn from that Deity are they communcating with you on the level of maiden ...mother..crone...warrior...father...sage?

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watch this through the year.. feel if it is the same aspect all the time

give examples

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it will  be an extra credit assignment for you to note any shifts in that department and what it is and why and how it turned out at least twice between now and the end of your training

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From: MSN NicknameLadyMajykWhisperingOwlSent: 1/12/2008 7:25 PM
In observation...Next year, we may need to reword part # 2...there seemed to be some confusion in how to do the assignment and what was actually wanted.
 
I explained to those that contacted me that they were to research the different cultures that seemed to call to them and pick the personalitites that the dieties seemed to have.  This was what they were to concentrate on rather thatn a popular name.  Ignore whatthey have seen im movies or been hyped to believe, but to just look at the way the culture thought of their deities.  Any comments that they have can be in the assignment as well.
 
As for Part # 3...I sent this to them becasue I was not sure where you were at or if you would be back when they finished...so this is what I sent...(I reworded it just a tiny bit from what you had put above.)  This was my e-mail to them.
 
(**Note: Jasmyne did not get hers in but planned to have it in today.)
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Greetings Dear One,
 
Thank you for getting this in....Here is Lesson 5 - Part 3:
 
Part three Due Jan 14, 2008:
 
Run a comparison on the culture's deity's personality you chose, with the list of your own personality traits and see which one you are more attuned with.
 
Write an essay about the culture and how you feel connected with it. Explain what part you would play in that culture. Explain, also, why you feel a kinship with the deity that most matches yours. 
 
Good Luck and I hope to hear from you in  a few days.
 
   Warm Hugs
~ Lady Majyk ~ 

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From: MSN NicknameLadyMajykWhisperingOwlSent: 1/13/2008 2:44 AM
Lesson #5 ~ Part # 4
DUE: 1-16-08
 
1.  Match the name of the diety with the personality and reveal it with a paragraph or two about how that effects you personally.

2.  What do you think you need to learn from that Deity?

3.  Are they communcating with you on the level of maiden ... mother ... crone ... warrior ... father ... sage? 

Realize that THIS is how you identify your Patron Deity that is working with you.  We do not pick that deity, but instead, they pick US.  Sometimes , we think that different deities seem romantic or exciting to work with, so we try to match ourselves to them and actually ignore what is really pulling us to deity and the guidance that is given.  We can work with any aspect of deity when it comes to different intents, but the form of deity that is guiding us is shown in what we are.

4.  Think about this and give your  final thoughts on your Patron Deities.  (Keep in mind that , most often, your deities are ones of the SAME pantheon and are most usually mates.

 

Extra Credit Opportunity:

Watch this through the year.. feel and observe to see if it is the same aspect all the time.  THere may be times when differnt aspects are working with you.  Let us know when this happens. 

Give examples

Note any shifts in that department.  Write  indepth observations about what it is, why you feel there is a change in aspects, and how it turns out ... at least twice between now and the end of your training of First Degree.


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From: MSN NicknameLadyMajykWhisperingOwlSent: 1/13/2008 4:12 AM
Other Possible Extra Credits Ideas:
 
 
Redesign the world from a spiritual as well as a practical perspective as the Goddesses of Manifestation would do it today.  Consider the societal issues each Goddess might address.  For example:
 
  1. Athena: politics, economy, law and commerce
  2. Brigit: health, ecological issues, the arts
  3. Hestia: the value of the home, the homeless
  4. Artemis: rights for women of all ages, ecology

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Record ways in which you are already manifesting the activities of one, several or all of these Goddesses in your life.  Write an affirmation to one or all of these Goddesses to invoke her attributes into your life.  For example:
 
  1. "Athena, give me clarity and wisdom."
  2. "Brigit, I acknowledge that I use the resources of my craft wisely."

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