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From: MSN NicknameBadBobTx  (Original Message)Sent: 12/24/2007 5:32 PM
I don't remember who posted it but there was a thread about freedom and vices. The jest of the thread and the author of the doc. was that you are not trully free unless you are free to persue your vices. Either of you or anyone else remeber the thread and do you have a link to the Doc?
Bob


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From: HoratioBunceSent: 12/25/2007 1:00 PM
BadBobTx,
 
You have a very good memory, Sir. 
 
Lysander Spooner.
 
 
If the above link doesn't work, you'll find it among his many other writings posted at the link below.
 
 
By the way, Spooner's essay on the trial by jury, written in 1852, is still considered to be THE BIBLE on the subject.
 
Joel

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From: MSN NicknameBadBobTxSent: 12/25/2007 2:01 PM
Thanks Joel
The old memory comes and goes.
 
Merry Christmas
Bob

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From: HoratioBunceSent: 12/27/2007 3:43 PM
Lysander Spooner
Vices are not Crimes
Chapter 19.........
 

We see the same principle in the case of prize-fighters. If I but lay one of my fingers upon another man’s person, against his will, no matter how lightly, and no matter how little practical injury is done, the act is a crime. But if two men agree to go out and pound each other’s faces to a jelly, it is no crime, but only a vice.

 

Common sense is clearly lacking in our society today.  Two men beat each other to a pulp behind the local bar, and both are arrested and charged with battery, or worse.  But what's the difference between two men beating each other senseless in a boxing ring, or behind the bar; when, in both cases, the men agree to take part in the contest? 

Whatever happened to that old saying, "Boys will be boys!"?   And why don't we have men like Lysander Spooner serving as judges in this country anymore?

My entire nation is now populated with idiots, liberals, and do-gooders.........spineless bastards.

 

Joel


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From: MSN Nicknamepuma2371Sent: 12/28/2007 4:57 PM
joel,
 
My entire nation is now populated with idiots, liberals, and do-gooders.........spineless bastards.
 
come on buddy, you know that is just stinkin thinkin, ron paul's campaign, if nothing else, has demonstrated that the flame of freedom is alive and well and being fanned to life by many fine patriots who have been waiting for the day to stand up for liberty.
 
the rose is just beginning to bloom joel, let's take it for full flower or die trying.

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