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From: MSN NicknameThe_Scientific_Patriot  (Original Message)Sent: 2/24/2008 7:44 AM
You can't tell the truth about the smallest things, can you?  ...and what are the big things?  Half of the Fraternal Union Police scum doing Drug Dealing in Uniform, Pimping in uniform, widespread political operations conducted under the cover of "moonlighting" and overlapping hourly wages, murder, kidnapping, etc, etc.  and the other half looking the other way or just too stupid and lazy to even look period.  Stupid, lazy, racist pig animals ARE the problem.  Not politicians, not the people, not the associations of the people, just the fraternal pig animals.  Corrupt, filthy fraternal pig animals.  Public Servants?  Please.  To serve means to give more than to receive.  Yet the pig animals bragg on their overpaid salaries, benefits and "fringe benefits".   The rule of law?  Please.  The pig animals brag on their loyalty to the fratenity which supercedes the law of the community, their jurisdiction and the nation.  Animals and insects are loyal to each other.  Shouldn't you and America expect a just a little more?
 
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The vicious cycle. 
 
 The stronger the fraternal pig unions, the stronger the executive branch, the weaker the congress, the more interventionist our foreign policy, the more undeclared wars of imperialism, the stronger the American Empire, the weaker the American Republic, the more "Homeland Security", the more accepted the ways of Facism, Torture, the more the overthrow of established human rights such as Habeus Corpus and the Bill of Rights, the stronger the dirty trailer trash pig unions and the stronger the right wing fascist racist police state.
 
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From: MSN NicknameBadBobTxSent: 2/24/2008 5:15 PM
TSP (The_ Scientific _Patriot)

To address your first observation I would have to make a few assumptions, so I will pass on that except to say if, and I’m quoting you here “The pig animals brag on their loyalty to the fratenity which supercedes the law of the community�?means loyalties of the politician to the respective parties rather than to the country and the people they represent. I would for the most part with only a couple of exceptions agree.

As to your second observation; fascism, totalitarianism, tyranny will come to us slowly an inch at a time. Not like a water fall but more a drip here and a drip there and one day we will wake up finding ourselves being totally controlled by the central government. Let me be clear I do not think that in my life time we will see the fall of our Republic but then again I’m right at 62 so that’s not saying much. I do fear that my grandkids may have their freedoms restricted far beyond were we are at this time. So when I refer to these things that could happen I’m not trying to provoke rebellion or revolution but to bring awareness to dangers that face our way of life. Rebellion, revolution keep that in your back pocket for another day.

Bob

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From: MSN Nicknamepuma2371Sent: 2/25/2008 3:53 PM
bob, if you are right at 62, then, in my opinion, you should know better.
 
yes, neoconservatism is thinly disguised fabian socialism. what makes fabian different from marxism is in the delivery system, and yes, fabians believe in incremental change as opposed to marxist revolutions.
 
however, i would submit to you that the fabians have had this republic in thrall since 1913 and pretty much all of the incrementals are in place. the g.w. bush puppet theatre has, in the last 7 plus years,  all but destroyed our constitution and put the final nails into the coffin of our economy.
 
today, as we speak, this nation stands in debt so deep that we would have to sell all the superstructure and real property (including land) in the nation three times over to even begin touching the principal.
 
in short, we are beyond broke. and beyond broke, means beyond vulnerable.
 
the only mitigation here is that the debt of which i speak is a contrived one. you and i owe nothing to the fed or to the u.s.a. inc., which are in defacto debt to us. but that is a story for another thread.
 
as long as the integrity of the media/religionist/corporate/education system of the western world is maintained in status quo, we are poised to fall at the drop of a hat.
 
to make this brief., i would take your revolution out of your pocket and give it a good once over. oil it up and keep it close, you may need it sooner than you think.
 
back to your age, bob, remember when you were just a school kid? apply those days as an overlay to what school kids pur up with today. fascism is here bob, it is not on the way.

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From: MSN NicknameBadBobTxSent: 3/1/2008 5:16 PM
 

bob, if you are right at 62, then, in my opinion, you should know better.

Yep, I’ll be 62 in July, and I feel I have a good handle on the political situation in the US today.

yes, neoconservatism is thinly disguised fabian socialism. what makes fabian different from marxism is in the delivery system, and yes, fabians believe in incremental change as opposed to marxist revolutions.

I understand the difference, and that’s was the bases of my statement of “As to your second observation; fascism, totalitarianism, tyranny will come to us slowly an inch at a time. Not like a water fall but more a drip here and a drip there and one day we will wake up finding ourselves being totally controlled by the central government�?

however, i would submit to you that the fabians have had this republic in thrall since 1913 and pretty much all of the incrementals are in place. the g.w. bush puppet theatre has, in the last 7 plus years,  all but destroyed our constitution and put the final nails into the coffin of our economy.

Here I would agree that the erosion of our constitution and the inroads of the Fabians have been going on for a very long time. 

today, as we speak, this nation stands in debt so deep that we would have to sell all the superstructure and real property (including land) in the nation three times over to even begin touching the principal.
 
in short, we are beyond broke. and beyond broke, means beyond vulnerable.

To this is the biggest crisis we as a nation face today and could be the catalyst for that revolution we speak of if the economy does a complete collapse.


the only mitigation here is that the debt of which i speak is a contrived one. you and i owe nothing to the fed or to the u.s.a. inc., which are in defacto debt to us. but that is a story for another thread.

We the people are supposedly the government, and this debt has been made in our name, we do not owe the government anything but we do owe our creditors.

as long as the integrity of the media/religionist/corporate/education system of the western world is maintained in status quo, we are poised to fall at the drop of a hat.

I agree we are in precarious position.

to make this brief., i would take your revolution out of your pocket and give it a good once over. oil it up and keep it close, you may need it sooner than you think.

We are nowhere close enough to having a large enough contingency of dissatisfied citizens who would be willing to take up arms to bring about change in the government. In the 70s when people were running around yelling revolution they were wrong, at that time the white middle class American was very satisfied with their situation, today it is not possible yet because so many Americans look to the government for their security both financially and from the outside threats, real or unreal. They would be more likely to take up arms against you than their government/comforter.

back to your age, bob, remember when you were just a school kid? apply those days as an overlay to what school kids pur up with today. fascism is here bob, it is not on the way.

I don’t believe that we are in the throes of Fascism in its true meaning. We do have a very centralized government and I would agree that we have tip toed right up to the edge of the Socialism/Fascism abyss. And could easily fall over the edge, but not there yet.

Bob

Sorry it took so long to get back to you, I have been having fits with MSN lately.


 


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