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From: MSN Nicknamelourip140  (Original Message)Sent: 6/4/2008 7:31 PM

We are Winning the War
June 2/08
By Luis Zamora.

McSame says we are winning in Iraq -winning what? We wonder? Nine more troops were killed last week and because the number was not higher that means we are winning –according to this idiot--- The occupation of Iraq has gone on for five years and if McSame gets his way it will go on for a few more decades.

We also have to look for the Up coming McSame war with Iran, if he is elected.
Things that are not being conveyed out in the open in this election process, is what this war is costing America in Treasurer and lives per month - and troops going on their fourth tour there and the high rate of our troops committing suicide and the failure of this administration or the VA to provide good health care for our troops who are returning home and/or are forgotten or it takes months to get in the VA system for medical care.

The treatments of our Troops by this administration, are uses�?them, abuse them and make them go to Iraq for four tours or more and when they need healing from theirs injures, make them stand in line and hope there will be someone to care for them, that’s not counting the hardships the wives and their children go thru.

We have to ask the question how in the hells are Americans finding themselves in the middle of this monstrous disaster Hello Bush! And Hello ! Americans, that voted for the idiot the second time around. The first time he stole the election that the excuse for him being president but the 2nd time?

Who is to blame? We all are, Congress, Senate, the grass root Americans who set on their Assis and believed that this fool could wake on water and that he was talking to gods every day.

Now we have McSame if elected, will be the same as having Bush for more years in the White House, Question is, can McSame win the election? Hell yes if Bush won the second time around, chances are that McSame can sneak in �?steal the election, he will have Karl Rove swift boaters to smear Obama, FBI, CIA, Cheney and all his Oil Corporations pulling for him, Yes Obama can be made toast and beaten if he does not get his act together, only time will tell.

Good thing Scott McClellan is telling the truth even if he is taking a beating from the vipers of this administration–GOD BLESS --McClellan good work!

Here hoping that Americans have learned their lesson in the last seven years, and elect Obama for the president of this great nation.

As I see it thru the eyes of an old man
Luis


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From: MSN Nicknamepuma2371Sent: 6/5/2008 5:53 PM
luiz,
 
obama?  yessir, just what a nation in financial turmoil needs. more taxes for more top heavy inefficient programs to make the band sound sweeter as the ship continues to sink.

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From: MSN Nicknamelourip140Sent: 6/5/2008 9:18 PM
Obama is better than the awol coward coke head Bush ant day

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From: MSN Nicknamepuma2371Sent: 6/6/2008 4:19 PM
oh how much i would love to agree with you luis. but in the final analysis, i fear that obama will dance to the same puppet masters as george ll.
 
remember, clinton  paved the way for the bush new world order with gatt and nafta.
 
obama, gives great speech, but his issues do not touch upon the crux.

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From: MSN NicknameDann1776Sent: 6/8/2008 7:41 PM


puma2371 - I could not disagree with you more.

Why, first because Obama is not beholden to the insiders, the lobbiest, and because his wife said that him getting on this ticket was the first time she was proud of America. Obama's Pastor is not a bad guy, he just has balls and has mentored Obama in the 20 years.

Ya - Obama had to jettison the guy in order to save the campaign, but getting into office is what needs to be done.

Next, Obama is not beholden to the old White guys. He is from South Chicago and understands how to organize circles around the PUB buffoons.

And don't Forget, George Bush was part of the same puppet masters elite - and he was just doing his part for them. Obama needs them not.

I am happy to disagree with you.

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From: MSN NicknameDann1776Sent: 6/9/2008 1:49 AM

The war �?is a waste of time�?BR>
It is foreign oil dependency that has made the U.S. vulnerable to geopolitical developments in oil-producing regions. The invasion of Iraq thus reducing oil out put and robust economic growth in Asia, particularly China and India, has led to a chronic imbalance in the oil markets in which the quantity of oil demanded already often exceeds the quantity produced. The possibility that the quantity demanded might sometimes exceed overall productive capacity is not unlikely, and will only foretell of greater shortages as time goes by. This could lead to energy price pressures. With a majority of the world's oil reserves under the control of state-owned enterprises, political considerations could trump economic ones should competition for oil grow increasingly fierce.
In addition, growing Iranian power could lead to demand imbalances. Iran is arguably bent on developing nuclear weapons. Given its geographic location and the reach of its existing missiles, Iran is already in a position to decimate the Persian Gulf’s oil facilities and shipping, should the international community employ military force to curb its pursuit of nuclear weapons. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s repeated threats to destroy Israel, his frequent denials of the Holocaust, and his belief that a world without the United States is possible, make the situation there highly dangerous. Despite all its risks and costs, military action against Iran might well prove unavoidable in the future. But, at this time, a diplomatic solution is still very viable if direct bilateral negotiations are initiated and reasonable flexibility that accommodates the core needs of all sides is offered. This is something that Obama understands.
Even if Iran’s nuclear ambitions are thwarted through diplomacy, radical Islamist terrorists could increasingly target the oil supply. Such a strategic approach would give these terrorists the tremendous capacity to damage the world’s economies that individual terrorist strikes across the globe, barring those with weapons of mass destruction, cannot hope to achieve. An oil-focused strategy by Islamist terrorists would greatly increase the costs and difficulties of defeating expansionist Islamist totalitarianism. Should such developments shatter international resolve against Islamist terrorism, the prospects for victory in this vital endeavor would be diminished and the future rendered far bleaker.
Under any or all of these scenarios, the world’s economies will be the “shock absorbers�?for resulting oil production shortfalls or disruptions. The oil price would rise to such an extent that inflation would increase and economic growth would be strangled. The world could then witness a return of 1970s-style stagflation (high inflation coupled with high unemployment). Improvements in the standard of living in both developing and developed countries could slow or even cease altogether.
Oil dependency has contributed greatly to freedom of people in many countries due to the wave of rich petrol-authoritarian states—like Iran, Venezuela, Russia, Nigeria and Sudan—which now have more petro-dollars than ever to do the worst things for the longest time.�?BR>The U.S. lacks a credible energy policy and we are even more oil dependent then we were 8 years ago. We need a credible energy policy aimed at mitigating foreign oil dependency, in addition to stop the hemorrhage our precious hard earned America dollars going into the hands of our enemies.
The war in Iraq is a bullshit waste of precious time and money. We need to win the real war which is won through economic prowess. This is what we need to concentrate on. This can be achieved by a multifaceted approach.
Commit to total North American energy independence by 2015 or sooner.
Much higher caf�standards soon
Total commitment to electric cars.
Total commitment to wind, solar, and Geothermal generation of electric through serious tax incentives.
New Nuclear Electric power plants
Serious tax incentives for both energy conservation and installation of Solar energy systems for every home.
Change all trading pacts so that we tax others countries goods at exactly the rate that they tax ours.

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