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Bridge Basics : Forcing / Non Forcing Bids - A write-up
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From: MSN NicknameIRDOZ  (Original Message)Sent: 2/13/2003 8:15 AM
On the main messageboard some time ago Morgann asked me to write something on forcing and non-forcing bids. Barton surmised that the main reason many under 50 players jumped too quickly in some auctions holding powerful hands was that they didn't know the difference between forcing and non-forcing bids - and that because they'd often had bids they considered forcing passed they jumped in auctions too quickly and missed slams or got too high unsafely.
 
Bridge bidding is a language where both partners speak to each other. Unless both partners are speaking the same language then lots of mishpas will occur.
 
For example, in one of the pairs tournaments this week there was a bidding sequence that on most tables went
 
1C - 2H(weak jump overcall)-2S (a 100% forcing bid).
 
Almost 10 pairs passed the 2s bid - the opener not having a good fit for spades. The hand took 12 tricks on most tables. The spades bidder had 16 hcps and 6 spades
 
A week earlier there was an auction in the under 50 room that went the same way..
 
1C - 2H(weak jump overcall)-2S (a 100% forcing bid).
 
The opener - holding 4 good spades and above minimum jumped to game in 4S on many tables. Game had no chance. The 2 spade bidder held 7 hcps and 5 reasonable spades.
 
These are just 2 examples of getting the language wrong.
 
In the second instance you cannot make a 100% forcing bid with only 7hcps - your only choices are to make a negative double (which promises at least 4 spades) or to pass and wait for partner to reopen with a double.
 
Here are some other auctions which highlight common bidding problems.
 
This is an auction from 2 weeks ago. On 10 tables the auctions goes :-
 
1D-P-1H-P
1nt-P-3H
 
In standard bidding, this auction shows game invite values and usually 6 hearts or 5 good hearts. 5 tables passed this bid. 5 bid 3nt. The opener had 2 little hearts and a 12hcp mnimum opener. The 3 heart bidder had 15 hcp and 5 hearts. So here a bid that is invite only gets passed - and what was needed was a 100% game forcing bid.
 
Here's another auction that caused problems
 
1D-P-1S-P
1nt-P-2S
 
Here responder is trying to sign off - they are trying to make a strongly discouraging drop dead bid - a bid that in this auction should always be passed - both partners have limited their hands. This auction happened on 15 tables in the under 50 room and on 5 tables the opener with a minimum and 3 little spades bid 3 spades. 3 spades had no chances.
 
These are all examples where both partners are not speaking the same language.
 
The main components of that language are that opener can make bids that are:
 
Game forcing
Forcing for 1 round
Inviting game
Not forcing
An attempt to sign off / limit the openers hand
 
Responder can make bids that are:
 
Game forcing
Forcing for 1 eound
Inviting game
Not forcing
An attempt to sign off / strongly discouraging  - limit responders hand
Drop dead
 
Now if both parners are speaking the same langauge and know when bids are forcing they don't have to jump to high too quickly for fear of being passed or they don't get too high raising partners strongly discouraging bids without the values to do so because they've missed games in the past.
 
What I thought I would try to do was to write up in a series over a few weeks how the 'language of bidding' gets defined and a set of genral principles we can use to try to tell when bids are forcing, game forcing, invite, drop dead and so on.
 
I'll do this in a number of parts...maybe one part a week. I'd be interested in any feedback about whether doing this is worthwhile. If not I'll drop the idea (sorry Morgann).
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 



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     re: Forcing / Non Forcing Bids - A write-up   cadet  2/13/2003 12:44 PM
     re: Forcing / Non Forcing Bids - A write-up   MilesT5280 (Miles)  2/13/2003 5:37 PM
     re: Forcing / Non Forcing Bids - A write-up   mohawk_0  2/14/2003 12:35 AM
     re: Forcing / Non Forcing Bids - A write-up     3/2/2003 12:52 PM
     re: Forcing / Non Forcing Bids - A write-up   Darla2  3/2/2003 2:42 PM
     re: Forcing / Non Forcing Bids - A write-up   gipp  3/3/2003 3:33 PM
     re: Forcing / Non Forcing Bids - A write-up   Hench_yth  3/10/2003 12:47 PM
     re: Forcing / Non Forcing Bids - A write-up   Gord  4/15/2003 11:47 PM
     re: Forcing / Non Forcing Bids - A write-up   JoAnneM  4/16/2003 6:10 AM
     re: Forcing / Non Forcing Bids - A write-up   JoAnneM  4/16/2003 4:10 PM
     re: Forcing / Non Forcing Bids - A write-up   JoAnneM  4/16/2003 4:14 PM
     re: Forcing / Non Forcing Bids - A write-up   JoAnneM  4/16/2003 6:22 PM
     re: Forcing / Non Forcing Bids - A write-up   MSN NicknameGIPPO99  5/16/2003 7:54 PM
     re: Forcing / Non Forcing Bids - A write-up   JoAnneM  5/16/2003 10:00 PM
     re: Forcing / Non Forcing Bids - A write-up     5/17/2003 1:44 AM